[SPOILERS]: Star Wars: Rebels - Thoughts?

By GM Hooly, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Um, I did put my source of my information in my post. In episode notes for Spark of Rebellion on Starwars.com it talked about the look of Kessel coming from GL's very notes. This was also talked about on the Star Wars podcast Rebel Force Radio--Rebels: Declassified Spark of Rebellion.

So if Starwars.com says this is why the design choice was made, that is pretty much official. One does not have to work for a company to repeat it's information. Especially when the source is cited. But hey, thanks for being an ass, instead of reading the whole post.

Im sorry if you are upset about Kessel no longer being a potato shaped astroid with very little atmosphere, that has gliterstrim being the poop of some spider creature. Maybe Kyp Durron and the Sun Chrusher won't exsistance either. As long as they don't f$@& with Trioculus and Mission from mount Yoda, I'm happy...

Why is changing Kessel a good thing? Because Peanut Shape Kessel was from the mind of KJA and anything that distances Star Wars from that two-bit hack is a good thing.

Sorry, you've lost. My logic is impeccable.

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We also learn the name of Zeb's weapon. It's called a Bowrifle.

I think that’s actually Bo-Rifle, much like the Bo-stick combined with a rifle. The pronunciation would be the same, but the spelling and the mental concept is different.

Of course, it’s really more like a Magnaguard-style Electro-staff combined with a blaster rifle, but who’s quibbling? :D

Crit 2 vicious 5 on the roll... Spend multiple advantage on a crit and the minimum level on the crit chart does cover it pretty well.

The way they were talking about the weapons, I think what we saw was not that extreme of a shot. I’d give them Breach 1 or maybe Breach 2, but I’d also make them pretty fragile.

Only thing I didnt like were how they drew the Wookies...Other than that, it was nice!

Yeah, I didn’t care for the plastic wookiees either. If I wanted that look, I’d be buying the Kenner plastic Wookiee action figures.

Crit 2 vicious 5 on the roll... Spend multiple advantage on a crit and the minimum level on the crit chart does cover it pretty well.

The way they were talking about the weapons, I think what we saw was not that extreme of a shot. I’d give them Breach 1 or maybe Breach 2, but I’d also make them pretty fragile.

I rewatched the episode. And I agree I would probably would have breach. Ion and is there a vehicle version of vicious?

Just saw the new video clip feature Hera and the Phantom. roomy enough for 3, and could fit a family of 7. Double medium laser cannons in the front, and a small blaster cannon in a dorsal turret that can easily take out a TIE fighter :blink:

So she is a better pilot and gunner than Han Solo. :wacko:

Just saw the new video clip feature Hera and the Phantom. roomy enough for 3, and could fit a family of 7. Double medium laser cannons in the front, and a small blaster cannon in a dorsal turret that can easily take out a TIE fighter :blink:

So she is a better pilot and gunner than Han Solo. :wacko:

Why shouldn't she be? I never saw Han Solo do anything that spectacular. He ran from some Tie-Fighters and shot one from behind when no-one knew he was there at the end of Ep IV. The best thing he ever did was the crazy stunt of hiding from a Star Destroyer ON the Star Destroyer. Which was less about skill and more about sheer audacity. Which is Han Solo all over.

But hey, thanks for being an ass, instead of reading the whole post.

Im sorry if you are upset about Kessel no longer being a potato shaped astroid with very little atmosphere, that has gliterstrim being the poop of some spider creature. Maybe Kyp Durron and the Sun Chrusher won't exsistance either. As long as they don't f$@& with Trioculus and Mission from mount Yoda, I'm happy...

Why shouldn't she be? I never saw Han Solo do anything that spectacular. He ran from some Tie-Fighters and shot one from behind when no-one knew he was there at the end of Ep IV. The best thing he ever did was the crazy stunt of hiding from a Star Destroyer ON the Star Destroyer. Which was less about skill and more about sheer audacity. Which is Han Solo all over.

In Han's defense, he beat 3PO's odds and navigated an asteroid field.

Hera is my absolute favorite, I'm currently reading a New Dawn, and it is called to the reader's attention multiple times on how amazing of a pilot she is.

Why is changing Kessel a good thing? Because Peanut Shape Kessel was from the mind of KJA and anything that distances Star Wars from that two-bit hack is a good thing.

Sorry, you've lost. My logic is impeccable.

The penguin's got a pretty good point.

The more KJA influences that can be stripped away and burned to ashes from the Star Wars franchise, the better.

So I watched Droids in Distress, and much as I was kinda dreading having Artoo and Threepio show up, I didn't mind them. They served much the same role as they did in the films, of generally being tagalong characters. Yeah, they could have been replaced with any other pair of protocol and astromech droids, but I thought it was a nice nod to the fans to include what is perhaps the most iconic duo in the franchise.

And apparently Ezra is "cheating" and built his character using Saga Edition rules, given how quickly he's been able to break out some hefty Force mojo without any proper training :lol:

I saw many of the flaws you all have mentioned (the wookiees being the biggest) but I'll keep on watching. It's certainly geared towards kids but perhaps I have softened to that in my old age. A good story is a good story....

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So I watched Droids in Distress, and much as I was kinda dreading having Artoo and Threepio show up, I didn't mind them. They served much the same role as they did in the films, of generally being tagalong characters. Yeah, they could have been replaced with any other pair of protocol and astromech droids, but I thought it was a nice nod to the fans to include what is perhaps the most iconic duo in the franchise.

And apparently Ezra is "cheating" and built his character using Saga Edition rules, given how quickly he's been able to break out some hefty Force mojo without any proper training :lol:

I liked that R2 was used as a hook that I see eventually leading to Bail Organ a funding/giving missions etc. Which I see as a good reason to use R2. C3P0 is the real tag along character whose only purpose is to be an excuse for R2 Being there.

Just saw the new video clip feature Hera and the Phantom. roomy enough for 3, and could fit a family of 7. Double medium laser cannons in the front, and a small blaster cannon in a dorsal turret that can easily take out a TIE fighter :blink:

So she is a better pilot and gunner than Han Solo. :wacko:

Why shouldn't she be? I never saw Han Solo do anything that spectacular. He ran from some Tie-Fighters and shot one from behind when no-one knew he was there at the end of Ep IV. The best thing he ever did was the crazy stunt of hiding from a Star Destroyer ON the Star Destroyer. Which was less about skill and more about sheer audacity. Which is Han Solo all over.

Going at break neck speed past the bridge of the SD only to stop on a dime and land without being noticed is very much about skill.

I feel alone: I loved it. ALL of it. Yes, that means Kessel, Wookiees, dopy Stormtroopers--the whole deal.

Honestly, I feel a lot of people are overthinking it. Overthinking leads to discontent. Discontent leads to nerdy ranting. Nerdy ranting leads to anger. Anger leads to defiance. Defiance leads to Darth Vader bursting through your door and Force choking you.

I was mildly surprised by Kessel, but I don't think it matters. Sure, a chunk of rock floating in space is more of a psychological strike than a regular planet (even an ugly, smoggy one like what we see), but is it a huge, story breaking deal? Not really. I feel that an asteroid might throw viewers off even more than they already are ("What's that alien dude? What's the Force? Who's a Jedi?"). You have to remember, it's made for kids, and kids don't react well to being thrown into the middle of something that they don't understand. Best to just ignore it and move on then wait and see. We who grew up on Star Wars and know a lot about it will say "Yeah, Kessel's a rock. No biggie." The thing is, we found this out a week after one big discovery, which was a week after another. For the show, it's all in an hour.

I don't see the issues in the Wookiees. They look fine to me.

Finally, the Stormtroopers. They have ALWAYS been dopy(-ish). Remember; Obi-Wans Jedi Mind-Tricks worked because they have WEAK WILL. We haved been lulled into a false sense of awesomeness by all authors saying they're awesome, when in the purest of all cannons makes them simple army grunts. They aren't portrayed as elite commandos, they're portrayed as troops. Guards on a backwater planet? Stormtroopers. Troops invading the Tantive IV? Stormtroopers. Soldiers doing anything other than Naval work? Stormtroopers. They aren't awesome-tastic super troopers. They're troop, and that's that. In fact, so far Rebels has followed this. They don't make Stormtroopers rare sights, they make them every soldier we've yet to see. The only variations are speeder pilots (wearing speeder clothes), TIE pilots (wearing pilot clothes), and officers (dressed as officers). So basically, Stormtroopers are the basic troops.

And besides, standard army troops don't wear full helmets. If one gets shot, it's a man with a face, not faceless Stormies who have no emotion. It's bad to show real people as the bad guys getting shot on a daily basis. Better to make them droids/Stormtroopers without faces and who are inherently all evil and mean and save the real faces for the good guys.

Agent Kallus is officially an ISB agent. ISB is now canon. He's wearing the standard olive-grey dress uniform of the Empire, not the cream-colored dress uniform of the ISB in what is now "Legends" canon.

Thoughts? The personnel on the Death Star in Episode IV wearing cream-colored uniforms are no longer ISB? If so, what will they become? Or is the standard dress olive-grey of Agent Kallus later going to be swapped out for updated creams sometime between Rebels and Episode IV?

Edit: I'm not a Clone Wars series fan. I've read Wulff Yularen (the original cream colored uniform wearer) was in this series. Was he considered ISB in the Clone Wars and did he wear a cream colored dress uniform like in Episode IV? If so, since the Clone Wars series is also canon, why does Wookieepedia only list Agent Kallus as a member of the ISB (not Yularen) under the "canon" tab?

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Wilhuff Tarkin was a commander in the Republic. He also once worked in a trial against someone suspected of treason.

Imagine begging to watch the Star Wars Christmas Special when it first came out. But dad wanted to watch something else in the era of no recording devices and one house TV. Something that would have been awesome to my young self was complete crap when I finally got a chance to see it decades later.

Oh, it was complete crap then too.

Trust me.

Hiyas:

It raped my childhood.

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It raped my childhood.

With respect, I find that word to be completely and totally unacceptable on a public forum like this.

I haven’t hit the "Report" button on you, but I was sorely tempted.

There are some types of violence that are so horrific that it is inappropriate to joke about them, pretty much anywhere.

Wilhuff Tarkin was a commander in the Republic. He also once worked in a trial against someone suspected of treason.

What does what Tarkin did have to do with what Sturn asked? You do realize that Wulff Yularen and Wilhuff Tarkin are completely different characters, and that Sturn was asking about Yularen right?

Agent Kallus is officially an ISB agent. ISB is now canon. He's wearing the standard olive-grey dress uniform of the Empire, not the cream-colored dress uniform of the ISB in what is now "Legends" canon.

Thoughts? The personnel on the Death Star in Episode IV wearing cream-colored uniforms are no longer ISB? If so, what will they become? Or is the standard dress olive-grey of Agent Kallus later going to be swapped out for updated creams sometime between Rebels and Episode IV?

Edit: I'm not a Clone Wars series fan. I've read Wulff Yularen (the original cream colored uniform wearer) was in this series. Was he considered ISB in the Clone Wars and did he wear a cream colored dress uniform like in Episode IV? If so, since the Clone Wars series is also canon, why does Wookieepedia only list Agent Kallus as a member of the ISB (not Yularen) under the "canon" tab?

No Yularen was a naval admiral when we saw him in The Clone Wars. He was in command of the naval forces attached to Anakin Skywalker's command last we saw him. He transferred to ISB when it was founded after the Republic was reformed into the Empire though I don't know how much of that is canon now.

Been posting Rebels reviews over at my blog, One Saga. Here's my latest review of "Fighter Flight" which debuted on the Watch Disney XD app. Also will be covering FFG Star Wars, as well as the Saga in general so stop on by:

http://onesaga.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/rebels-fighter-flight/

Yancy

Imagine begging to watch the Star Wars Christmas Special when it first came out. But dad wanted to watch something else in the era of no recording devices and one house TV. Something that would have been awesome to my young self was complete crap when I finally got a chance to see it decades later.

Oh, it was complete crap then too.

Trust me.

Hiyas:

It raped my childhood.

L

MTFBWY

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I don't mean to be prudish, but that's pretty unpleasant to read to me. Just posting not to jump on you, per se, but because you may not be aware that some of us find that pretty offensive.

I am not condoning the use of the word but would anyone here react this offended if he had said shot, stabbed, lynched, killed, enslaved, tortured or something along those lines? And why not? All are vile acts...

He didn't make a statement approving of the act he used it as a means of getting a point accross.

It might not be in the best taste but it certainly shouldn't mean the word itself is off-limits for someone to use.

It's been my experience that some words affect people more than others. Violence is subjective and sexual violence is sometimes more offensive to some (for good reasons).

Anyways back to our regularly scheduled programming. Rebels is pretty cool and I'm looking forward to more.