[SPOILERS]: Star Wars: Rebels - Thoughts?

By GM Hooly, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Huh. The more you know. I don't read comics, so that's interesting information.

I normally don't either, but it's a decent arc, crafted like a TCW episode rather than the usual 98% fluff, 2 frames of advancement, and a cliffhanger formula that most of the rest follow.

So what are everyone's thoughts on the special nature of the Holocrons?

Silly plot device to save time and drive the plot faster.

It does serve as a easy way to remove Maul from the Equation.. I feel it is very obvious who Maul saw and I am looking forward what they do with that. I also like the jab Maul had at Sabine about ruling her people. Maybe its just me, but I feel like we will learn more about that in the future. Not necessarily in Rebels, but maybe in a Sabine lead Canon novel or comic.

I would anticipate that we will learn more about Maul's rule of Mandalore after his capture by Palpatine (and escape) in the upcoming Ahsoka Tano book... Ahsoka .

While I imagine we might get some Ahsoka surviving Order 66, joining the Rebellion, &c., I imagine that it will be primarily based on the never-completed Siege of Mandalore arc from The Clone Wars .

Well, I was hoping Season 3 would start having better writing. But i guess with 22 minutes there is a lot of handwavium going on to condense things.

My hearing is bad, and it took some comments here to realize that Maul wasn't blathering, but saying "he still lives"

I as well, think that Maul is referencing Kenobi. He wants to destroy Sidius, and the knowledge of Kenobi overseeing something, in this case someone, that can destroy the Sith, Maul will want to take it from Kenobi to control it himself. Maul wants to be the one to bring the downfall, likely by training Kenobi's charge.

I suspect the episodes, if any, will be Kenobi either teaming up with Kanan and/or Ezra to fight and finally deal with Maul unbeknowest to Luke. A showdown on the sand of the Jundland wastes.

While Maul may have considered his revenge on Kenobi complete with Satine's death, Kenobi watches over Luke, the key to defeating the Sith, and Maul has the mindset that he must be the one to orchestrate it. He also likes taunting his foes, as evidenced by the "follow the sound of my voice.." line, so taking more from Kenobi is not off the table.

A showdown on the sand of the Jundland wastes.

I like the idea of a scene that is basically lost to history. Nobody really understands the sacrifices Kenobi makes. At the moment Kenobi's careful watch is just a big cloud of nothing. "And thus he kept watch over the desert lands for many years, while his clothes grew shabby and his hair became like silver..." There is a book "Kenobi" which is pretty decent for a SW novel, but it doesn't deal with any threads of the past or future, it really is only about how he deals with local events in a way that prevents anyone from discovering who he is.

A showdown on the sand of the Jundland wastes.

I like the idea of a scene that is basically lost to history. Nobody really understands the sacrifices Kenobi makes. At the moment Kenobi's careful watch is just a big cloud of nothing. "And thus he kept watch over the desert lands for many years, while his clothes grew shabby and his hair became like silver..." There is a book "Kenobi" which is pretty decent for a SW novel, but it doesn't deal with any threads of the past or future, it really is only about how he deals with local events in a way that prevents anyone from discovering who he is.

In canonicity, I believe the Star Wars comic has some issues Kenobi has dealing with Owen Lars. I think it could be a poignant moment.

I liked the Kenobi novel. My dog did too, but thankfully it wasn't my homework.

A showdown on the sand of the Jundland wastes.

I like the idea of a scene that is basically lost to history. Nobody really understands the sacrifices Kenobi makes. At the moment Kenobi's careful watch is just a big cloud of nothing. "And thus he kept watch over the desert lands for many years, while his clothes grew shabby and his hair became like silver..." There is a book "Kenobi" which is pretty decent for a SW novel, but it doesn't deal with any threads of the past or future, it really is only about how he deals with local events in a way that prevents anyone from discovering who he is.

In canonicity, I believe the Star Wars comic has some issues Kenobi has dealing with Owen Lars. I think it could be a poignant moment.

Yeah, Luke gets a journal that Kenobi kept, and entries in said journal form the basis of a couple of one-and-done stories in the main Star Wars comic.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

So those TIE Interceptors - Baron Fel's fighter wing? They had red on the wings, or was I seeing things?

And take a moment of silence for poor old Redshirt Rake. I knew he was a Dead Man Walking the second they said "Please allow me to introduce Wedge, Hobbie and some poor bastard we've never heard of".

Also, was I the only one thinking "Hey! Just like the old Kenner toys!" when the wings popped off the TIEs?

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I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

Edited by Ruakar

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It's from the Episode that him and Zeb were stuck together on the ice planet last season. Zeb could have made him a Rebel Prisoner, but instead left him alone. Also there is that conversation about Lasan and the Bo-Rifle which gave us more dept to Kallus's character. It is also when a lot of people started theorizing that Kallus would end up as a member of the Rebellion.

At this time I don't think Kallus is the Fulcrum Agent we heard from, but I could see him becoming a Fulcrum Agent in the future. My reasoning is that he was in a position to actually make the extraction smoother and even cover it up. Similar to how to he helped Sabine escape.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It was near the end of season 2,where they started to show that Kallus might not be so bad after all. I completely disagree with that but it's how things are.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It was near the end of season 2,where they started to show that Kallus might not be so bad after all. I completely disagree with that but it's how things are.

Given the way Kallus openly and gleefully reveled in this role in the massacre of the Lasat in a previous episode, I found his comments in the "lost on not-Hoth" episode incongruous and suspicious.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It was near the end of season 2,where they started to show that Kallus might not be so bad after all. I completely disagree with that but it's how things are.

Given the way Kallus openly and gleefully reveled in this role in the massacre of the Lasat in a previous episode, I found his comments in the "lost on not-Hoth" episode incongruous and suspicious.

Pity that there's no precedent for a complete and utter bastard to do a heel/face turn. As we all know, redemption is impossible in the Star Wars universe.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It was near the end of season 2,where they started to show that Kallus might not be so bad after all. I completely disagree with that but it's how things are.

Given the way Kallus openly and gleefully reveled in this role in the massacre of the Lasat in a previous episode, I found his comments in the "lost on not-Hoth" episode incongruous and suspicious.

MaxKilljoy just listed another reason why I am pretty sure Kallus is not a Fulcrum Agent yet. When we meet him, He knows who he is and where he stands, but "lost on not-Hoth" is his realization to what his life really means to the Empire. We have two Episodes that begin a Arc for Kallus. If he suddenly leaves the Empire and joins the Phoenix this season I would be suspicious. He is in a position that the Rebellion could actually Benefit staying as a ISB Agent.

Kallus is far more interesting now that he could turncoat. I do think he's Fulcrum, you can tell by the speech pattern.

What if this is a set up? What if this is apart of Thrawn's master plan and Kallus is acting as a double agent? But in the meantime also becoming a rebel sympathizer?

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Given the way Kallus openly and gleefully reveled in this role in the massacre of the Lasat in a previous episode, I found his comments in the "lost on not-Hoth" episode incongruous and suspicious.

Because an enemy goading you on so tou make a mistake is unfathomable to you? People can do horroble things as long as they can justify it, but people can change. They can see that what they are doing is wrong and try to make amends, or alter their point of view.

I guess Agent Kallus is the new Fulcrum...or one of them. Voice patterns were too similar, but given that the fans decoded Ahsoka pretty quickly, that could be a bait-and-switch by Filoni and crew.

I'm wondering what debt Kallus owed. He's a genocidal monster, so I can't see him caring if Zeb did him a fair turn at one point.

It was near the end of season 2,where they started to show that Kallus might not be so bad after all. I completely disagree with that but it's how things are.

Given the way Kallus openly and gleefully reveled in this role in the massacre of the Lasat in a previous episode, I found his comments in the "lost on not-Hoth" episode incongruous and suspicious.

Pity that there's no precedent for a complete and utter bastard to do a heel/face turn. As we all know, redemption is impossible in the Star Wars universe.

Eh. Vader fell for selfish reasons. He wasn't any less selfish when he pitched Palpatine down the reactor shaft.

I wouldn't doubt that a Fulcrum agent is working for Thrawn. Why else would Govoner Pryce show up with Kallus at such an opportune time, and be able to disable the TIE Fighters remotely?

And who's bright idea was it to send in a Correllian corvette so poorly crewed that it didn't fire a single shot?

The stripes stand for 10 confirmed kills, the academy trainer was at least a double ace. The rest? Not so much.

Edited by TakeshiMasaki

A lot of changes from the Legends material here.

Wedge is now a former Imperial cadet rather then a rebel smuggler with a little fighter experience who signed on with the Alliance fighter corps.

Wedge and Jansen defected together rather then Hobbie, Jansen, and Biggs

And the TIE Interceptor apparently wasn't developed in response to the X-Wing unless there are X-Wings being used by some of the offscreen rebel groups.

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http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Rebels_Season_Four

Has anyone seen this yet???!!!

If this is true, I'll never say anything bad about Disney's treatment of the EU again!

Edit: According to this, Sev survived...

Edited by Vestij Jai Galaar