Plus, as you said the reality is saving money by having the main cast (especially those with the talent for it like Steve Blum) do additional voices as needed.

Of course the end result of that is me thinking "Wait - since when is Spike a Stormtrooper?" (:

The preview for next week's episode is what I'm most excited for. It seems we'll get a lot of useful information on Mandalore's situation since the rise of the Empire (and maybe see some familiar faces from The Clone Wars?).

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

it's the same reason that the majority of animated series have a limited wardrobe.

Budget.

Yes the show is successful, but that doesn't mean they have a bunch of money to spare. After all, professionals like James Earl Jones do not come cheap, and even less notable talents like Ashley Eckstien and Sarah Michelle Gellar have salaries that need to be paid.

If anything, the show may be tasked to do more (22 episodes) with the same budget they had for the first season (13 episodes), meaning they've got to make what money they do have go further. Or if they did get an increase, it went towards paying for the bigger name talent than they'd use for background characters. And unless they get voice actors like Tara Strong or Rob Paulsen or Frank Welker or Billy West on the regular payroll (seriously, check out their IMDB pages for the sheer volume and range of voice work they've done!), they're going to need to pay several different people for various voice work. Heck, they probably count landing Steve Blum as a bonus given he can do enough variations of his voice to cover multiple roles in the show, notably the stormtroopers.

At least the show's not constantly recycling stock footage as was done back in the olden days of animation, which itself was a major tool in saving money on what were undoubtedly tight budgets.

But even in this day and age where animated series aren't instantly relegated to being "child's fare" or "glorified toy commercials," they still tend not to get the kind of budgets that live-action series would.

Agreed. Apologies, I should have noted that I was total cool with the sequence. Actually thought it was pretty BA. Was just trying to relate what had happened to what has been published, considering it is now canon and somehow, somewhere someone is going to say... "But that one time, in Rebels, Kanan one shotted a AT-AT. So, now so should I."

Ahahahah, that's a fair point. Probably better to think "yes, but" then no. It's a creative set of mind to consider something, even if it is eventually rejected.

For the clothes remark, while the real answer is of course budget reasons, we do have to keep in mind that they're a somewhat large ragtag group of rebels tightly living on a light freighter: I doubt they really care about their outfits (I wouldn't mind Ezra dropping the street urchin clothes though). Besides, in the case of Sabine, isn't the armor a huge part of a Mandalorian's identity?

For the clothes remark, while the real answer is of course budget reasons, we do have to keep in mind that they're a somewhat large ragtag group of rebels tightly living on a light freighter: I doubt they really care about their outfits (I wouldn't mind Ezra dropping the street urchin clothes though). Besides, in the case of Sabine, isn't the armor a huge part of a Mandalorian's identity?

In our game, set 8 years after Order 66, Padme is secretly alive and co-bossing Organa's rebel network. A running joke is her wardrobe. In the films, a door opens and BANG!... there's Padme in a new outfit. Scene change? Wham! Padme's in a new outfit. So, while our heroes only have a few outfits they wear, rebels are grumbling as they move Padme's mountain of totes from one base, and one ship, to the next. We even had a scene, in a session my lady ran so I could take a break and play, in which my Jedi Knight (see sig) who was serving as her bodyguard on a mission explained "Majesty, its a snub fighter. You get one bag." I think limited wardrobe makes sense for a group of people scraping by while living on the lam.

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

it's the same reason that the majority of animated series have a limited wardrobe.

Budget.

I agree budget (and simplifying the rendering process) is the primary driver. However, a key element of character design in the visual arts, is a consistent and immediately recognizable look the viewer will respond to. These aren't real, live actors so anything you can do to make people say "that's so-and-so" without working too hard - and consistency is a big part of that - is good. I'd like to see Hera in something other than her pilot jumper, but I get that it is intended to convey to us "Hera" and "she's a pilot."

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

it's the same reason that the majority of animated series have a limited wardrobe.

Budget.

I agree budget (and simplifying the rendering process) is the primary driver. However, a key element of character design in the visual arts, is a consistent and immediately recognizable look the viewer will respond to. These aren't real, live actors so anything you can do to make people say "that's so-and-so" without working too hard - and consistency is a big part of that - is good. I'd like to see Hera in something other than her pilot jumper, but I get that it is intended to convey to us "Hera" and "she's a pilot."

Plus, having characters be readily identifiable is handy when it comes time to buy the toys and associated merch, so that parents know which toys to buy for their children

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

it's the same reason that the majority of animated series have a limited wardrobe.

Budget.

I agree budget (and simplifying the rendering process) is the primary driver. However, a key element of character design in the visual arts, is a consistent and immediately recognizable look the viewer will respond to. These aren't real, live actors so anything you can do to make people say "that's so-and-so" without working too hard - and consistency is a big part of that - is good. I'd like to see Hera in something other than her pilot jumper, but I get that it is intended to convey to us "Hera" and "she's a pilot."

Plus, having characters be readily identifiable is handy when it comes time to buy the toys and associated merch, so that parents know which toys to buy for their children

Of course, having multiple outfits means you can have multiple toys to sale! Hoth Hera, Desert Camo Hera, Forest Hunter Hera, etc.

(PS: Hi, everyone.)

So the shows been out a while now and seems to be successful. Would it kill them to get some different outfits for the characters. It'd be nice to see Sabine wear something other then her armor. Fighting: Armor, Training: Armor, Dinner and Dancing: Armor, Pretending to be a cadet: Armor, Casual hanging out: Armor.

Same with all the rest, but the Mandalorian armor for every occasion stands out the most for me.

Watch the animation and you'll notice that the outfit isn't something skinned over the character, but is actually part of the 3D model that makes up the character. So, changing it would require the character to be rebuilt with the new outfit. It's a cost saving measure for the animation as it stops issues of things like arms poking out through the clothing that rendered clothing can suffer from. This show doesn't have years to put out 1.5 hours of material, unlike, say, a Shrek movie or a Pixar movie, but have to put out 5 hours of material in about 6 months time or so.

So, the "skin" of the character that the bones deform is just the clothing of the character so one rig and one animation gets it all done for each character.

UGH... hate some of the continuity errors getting in the way of my Enjoyment

In TPM, we see Qui-gon Gin barely able to get through a blast door with his lightsaber. In fact, Obi-wan had to cover for him while he worked at it.

But in the Season 1 Finale, we See Ezra with his lightsaber able to cut through the outer hull of a Star Destroyer with relative ease, and a Huge chunk fall out that was almost a meter in thickness. Constantly we see Kanan, and Ezra making new holes, with a quick flick of the blade in almost any wall or floor.

But i the Episode where they find the Force sensitive Toddlers, we see Kanan shoot a panel to cause blast doors to come down, to separate them from the Inquisitors. Not to mention earlier we see the 5th brother throw his spinning blades down a hallway and somehow not go through the whole ship. So obviously only Kanan and Ezra have the ability to cut though things, and the inquistors have to remian on the other side howling in frustration at the Plot armor the heros have

I was a bit taken aback by the ease with which Kanan cut through the AT-AT legs... I think if I were storyboarding that, I'd have had him thrust the saber into the knee joints, causing them to fail and the walker to crumple to the side.

UGH... hate some of the continuity errors getting in the way of my Enjoyment

In TPM, we see Qui-gon Gin barely able to get through a blast door with his lightsaber. In fact, Obi-wan had to cover for him while he worked at it.

But in the Season 1 Finale, we See Ezra with his lightsaber able to cut through the outer hull of a Star Destroyer with relative ease, and a Huge chunk fall out that was almost a meter in thickness. Constantly we see Kanan, and Ezra making new holes, with a quick flick of the blade in almost any wall or floor.

But i the Episode where they find the Force sensitive Toddlers, we see Kanan shoot a panel to cause blast doors to come down, to separate them from the Inquisitors. Not to mention earlier we see the 5th brother throw his spinning blades down a hallway and somehow not go through the whole ship. So obviously only Kanan and Ezra have the ability to cut though things, and the inquistors have to remian on the other side howling in frustration at the Plot armor the heros have

The Inquisitors are not very bright or imaginative. It would not surprise me that they just did not think hey could do it.

I was a bit taken aback by the ease with which Kanan cut through the AT-AT legs... I think if I were storyboarding that, I'd have had him thrust the saber into the knee joints, causing them to fail and the walker to crumple to the side.

I agree that it was lazy storytelling on the writer's part. Something along the lines of what Qui-Gon did to the blast doors of the bridge on the Trade Federation flagship in Phantom Menace would have been more compelling, tense, and believable (IMO).

I still recall d20 Star Wars where blast doors had more hit points than the starships that contained them.

I still recall d20 Star Wars where blast doors had more hit points than the starships that contained them.

always wondered why they didn't just bolt Blast Doors on the ships for protection.

Blast doors are designed only as a sheet of duristeel with the intent of keeping a target out; I can buy that it is tougher then an AT-AT leg, as it's less dense with moving parts.

Again it's a kids show, I'm quite happy for it to draw in new fans.

Blast doors are designed only as a sheet of duristeel with the intent of keeping a target out; I can buy that it is tougher then an AT-AT leg, as it's less dense with moving parts.

Again it's a kids show, I'm quite happy for it to draw in new fans.

The outer metal of the leg isn't a moving part. Those are all contained inside the two mechanisms, heheh. And we've seen Blast doors in operation in two different movies. So, having moving parts doesn't mean they can't be armored. Frankly I think it was just lazy writing on their part. Same with how many hits it takes to bring down a civilian craft with its shields down by a military vehicle meant to destroy other armored targets.

Blast doors are designed only as a sheet of duristeel with the intent of keeping a target out; I can buy that it is tougher then an AT-AT leg, as it's less dense with moving parts.

Again it's a kids show, I'm quite happy for it to draw in new fans.

The outer metal of the leg isn't a moving part. Those are all contained inside the two mechanisms, heheh. And we've seen Blast doors in operation in two different movies. So, having moving parts doesn't mean they can't be armored. Frankly I think it was just lazy writing on their part. Same with how many hits it takes to bring down a civilian craft with its shields down by a military vehicle meant to destroy other armored targets.

I want some backstory on the Ghost -- where did they get hull armor like that, and what kind of engines that that thing have make it that agile while carrying that much armor?

If you think the Ghost is OP, the Phantom is even more OP

Has forward firing Laser cannons, A turret that is powerful enough to take out TIE fighters. Engines faster then a TIE fighter, Can comfortably seat 6, and now has a hyperdrive.

Blast doors are designed only as a sheet of duristeel with the intent of keeping a target out; I can buy that it is tougher then an AT-AT leg, as it's less dense with moving parts.

Again it's a kids show, I'm quite happy for it to draw in new fans.

The outer metal of the leg isn't a moving part. Those are all contained inside the two mechanisms, heheh. And we've seen Blast doors in operation in two different movies. So, having moving parts doesn't mean they can't be armored. Frankly I think it was just lazy writing on their part. Same with how many hits it takes to bring down a civilian craft with its shields down by a military vehicle meant to destroy other armored targets.

Armoured? Sure, but I doubt that they are as heavily armoured as a blast door that is literally a dense slab of duristeel. A comparison of probably a few cm of duristeel protecting weaker components compared to over a meter of dense metal. Relatively speaking one must be much more lightly armoured then the other, and largely why walkers wouldn't really work as well in the real world. One well placed shot brings everything tumbling down.

Thin justification? Sure, but I could start picking apart the OT in the same manner, or most movies probably.

Again, childrens cartoon, handwaving aplenty should be little surprise.

Regarding Blast Doors

At about 1:22 into the video you see Qui gon Jinn easily cuts through the 1st door to the bridge. Then the order to close the blast doors comes and you still see his lightsaber after the 2nd door closes only to be covered by the 3rd door. Which shows that all 3 doors together are probably thicker than the length of the lightsaber. From that we see that the problem is about the thickness of the doors than the lightsabers ability to cut through them.

You can even estimate it would have taken them less than 2 minutes to use a lightsaber to melt the door like he was doing before the Drodikas arrived.

It is reasonable that a lightsaber would not be hindered in cutting the leg of a Walker as long as it can make it through the the total thickness of the leg.

Still gets me though. I know the justification is cortosis weave, but still. Up to that point all we had seen was the sword lob off Ponda Baba and a Wampa's arm.

I blame the EU trying to develop this idea that lightsabers can cut through anything, and now its gone maximum stupid.

I mean sure, I guess I'm fine with it.

In one of the old WEG books there's an Alliance special forces "slang glossary", and their "operator-speak" term for a lightsaber was "UCT".

U niversal C utting T ool.

In Rebels itself, we see a lightsaber glance off of a character's personal armor more than once.