[SPOILERS]: Star Wars: Rebels - Thoughts?

By GM Hooly, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Just saw the finale and I'd share my thoughts and feelings about it, but I've seem to have gotten something in my eye just now... :wub:

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2 hours ago, penpenpen said:

Just saw the finale and I'd share my thoughts and feelings about it, but I've seem to have gotten something in my eye just now... :wub:

I have to say, I felt a tad bit disappointed. Was that all? Or are they preparing for a series to gap the 25 years after Endor now, with the cast now containing Ahsoka and Sabine as the connecting link between series, like Rex did for the Clone Wars?

Because, darn! I'd watch that.

SPOILERS!

Overall it was great to have so many bookends. Totally forgot the Space Whales. I feel like the end is somewhat rushed though. It seems to be conveniently to push further comics, books etc. Don't like that.

1 hour ago, TheMOELANDER said:

I have to say, I felt a tad bit disappointed. Was that all? Or are they preparing for a series to gap the 25 years after Endor now, with the cast now containing Ahsoka and Sabine as the connecting link between series, like Rex did for the Clone Wars?

Because, darn! I'd watch that.

So would I. Not sure how open Tiya Sircar’s schedule would be, though, if her new sitcom with Zach Braff takes off.

Meanwhile, LFL has apparently applied for trademark on “Star Wars Resistance.” A title like that would seem to be a natural to fit in that timeframe, and also sounds like a natural follow-up to a show called “Star Wars Rebels.”

1 hour ago, TheMOELANDER said:

Overall it was great to have so many bookends. Totally forgot the Space Whales.

When the line dropped about, “Maybe it’s not someONE but someTHING” on frequency zero, I looked at my son and said, “The purgills?”

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To be honest, it was a fantastic finale. Ezra really shines in his selflessness, wisdom, and knowledge of the Force. Makes you think ho much he grew up.

I Loved how Kallus' story ended, welcomed in the new world for the Lasat. It's refreshing.

So, who is betting that Thrawn survived as well?

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20 minutes ago, Rithuan said:

So, who is betting that Thrawn survived as well?

Not taking that bet. Thrawn is too popular a property for them to have just done away with him like this.

He will be back!

I’m not taking the bet, either.

(Filoni stated outright in Rebels Recon that both Thrawn and Ezra survived.)

Saw this point made in a thread on the XWM board, but why would the Empire leave Lothal intact after the events of the finale?

Were they stretched too thin? Did they think it was a fine idea, letting other worlds see that insurrection worked? Were they monitoring Lothal to see if the alliance used it as a home world?

13 minutes ago, Bojanglez said:

Saw this point made in a thread on the XWM board, but why would the Empire leave Lothal intact after the events of the finale?

Were they stretched too thin? Did they think it was a fine idea, letting other worlds see that insurrection worked? Were they monitoring Lothal to see if the alliance used it as a home world?

Lothal is on the outer rim, it's trade lane runs through Mon Calimar (Dac), so it's probably to far out of the way and not as strategic as other targets, and behind enemy lines. I'm sure it was on Tarkin's Death Star hit list. If you lived in the core or mid rim and listened to Imperial propaganda you'd probably never hear of it anyways.

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17 minutes ago, Eoen said:

I'm sure it was on Tarkin's Death Star hit list.

Excellent point!

Not to mention, with the temple destroyed and the TIE Defender project broken, Lothal just wasn’t important anymore. Since our crew called an Order 13 as part of their plan, and then the dome* took off, the Empire could easily spin it as a willing abandonment of the occupation, and the dome was the unfortunate victim of an engine mishap.

(*I’m thinking I might stat that puppy out. I like the idea of it. I’m thinking that - unless they’ve given it an official name somewhere - I’ll call it an Imperial Occupation Command Dome.)

10 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

(*I’m thinking I might stat that puppy out. I like the idea of it. I’m thinking that - unless they’ve given it an official name somewhere - I’ll call it an Imperial Occupation Command Dome.)

They're officially called an Imperial Planetary Occupation Facility . They look a lot like those Imperial construction modules the empire uses in orbit.

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I wasn’t too terribly far off. Thanks!

11 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I wasn’t too terribly far off. Thanks!

Please post them if you stat them out.

On a side note how would that city wide shield work. I don't see four setback dice canceling out every hit.

14 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Please post them if you stat them out.

On a side note how would that city wide shield work. I don't see four setback dice canceling out every hit.

Oh, I will. They’ll be up on mySWRPG. (I recently posted the Class Four Cargo Transport. I’ve had a few Rebels items in a holding pattern, just waiting to see what made the cut for Dawn of Rebellion.)

Sitting here at work, away from the books, my first instinct is to make it a narrative device a la the Death Star Superlaser in DoR. But, there might be some mechanics to throw at it.

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2 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Please post them if you stat them out.

On a side note how would that city wide shield work. I don't see four setback dice canceling out every hit.

I imagine ground shields largely act as plot armour. E.g. if a planet has a planetary shield, it's neigh on impossible to break without a more conventional assault.

Alternatively I imagine the building itself has a lot of armour, thus disabling that shield is difficult without a full and prolonged bombardment. So while it isn't exactly invulnerable to fire, it's very hard to shift unless you chuck a lot of fire into it. I would probably give it a sil 6 pressence, the 4 setback dice and one /two upgrades to the difficulty check, just to represent the possibility of missing and striking the surrounding city

What I am curious to know is what Ahsoka did during the war. Since she was obviously around during it and was very much alive at the end of it.

Curious to know if Yoda kept Ahsoka in the know about Luke or even trained her further.

I imagine, for a time, at least, she was stuck on Malachor.

29 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I imagine, for a time, at least, she was stuck on Malachor.

That was what I was thinking. When Ezra says to her "Come and find me!" and she replies "I will!".

Then wakes up on Malachor, in the middle of nowhere, without a ship.

AHSOKA: "Well, s**t!" :)

Maybe she finally figured out a way to open a portal into the "World between Worlds" after a few years?

2 hours ago, Eoen said:

Lothal is on the outer rim, it's trade lane runs through Mon Calimar (Dac), so it's probably to far out of the way and not as strategic as other targets, and behind enemy lines. I'm sure it was on Tarkin's Death Star hit list. If you lived in the core or mid rim and listened to Imperial propaganda you'd probably never hear of it anyways.

Good point – probably right after Alderaan, considering it's not a central world that can be used to make an example, but filled with enough frustration for Tarkin to definitely blow up.

13 minutes ago, Daronil said:

Then wakes up on Malachor, in the middle of nowhere, without a ship.

AHSOKA: "Well, s**t!" :)

Maybe she finally figured out a way to open a portal into the "World between Worlds" after a few years?

It's possible - alternatively, the rebels just sent someone to pick her up after the whole Lothal business was tended to. After all, the planet had no more value to the empire at that point, so it's unlikely to be blockaded.

All in all, I absolutely loved the episode. The only point I'm not to keen on is Hera's son. I don't think he was really necessary - after all, the space family already had its son and daughter, along with mom, dad and crazy uncle - and he opened the can of worms about interbreeding that wasn't indicated anywhere previously (at least to my knowledge).

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7 minutes ago, Cifer said:

and he opened the can of worms about interbreeding that wasn't indicated anywhere previously (at least to my knowledge).

There was an episode of "The Clone Wars" that dealt with a clone that had gone off the reservation and settled down with a Twi'lek partner, and they had kids. I was a bit surprised by that, because up until then, with regard to interspecies relationships, Star Wars* was pretty much directly opposed to Star Trek, but that TCW episode canonised the idea that it was possible.

Personally, I've always found the whole interspecies thing a bit...off colour? I mean, I'm more closely related to a jellyfish than I am to a Betazoid...

* - with the exception of things like Jabba's thing for Twi'lek dancers, but that's shown as a weird fetish rather than normalised.

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4 minutes ago, Daronil said:

There was an episode of "The Clone Wars" that dealt with a clone that had gone off the reservation and settled down with a Twi'lek partner, and they had kids. I was a bit surprised by that, because up until then, with regard to interspecies relationships, Star Wars* was pretty much directly opposed to Star Trek, but that TCW episode canonised the idea that it was possible.

Personally, I've always found the whole interspecies thing a bit...off colour? I mean, I'm more closely related to a jellyfish than I am to a Betazoid...

* - with the exception of things like Jabba's thing for Twi'lek dancers, but that's shown as a weird fetish rather than normalised.

I must say I have absolutely no problem with interspecies relations - after all, most species act more or less like humans, possibly humans of a certain hat. Why wouldn't relationships develop? But that doesn't mean the biology needs to work together - after all, there are plenty of childless couples here on Earth too.

Thank you for the note about the CW episode, though!

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I have no problem with Hera and Kanan having a child.

But, the kids in that Clone Wars episode were the Twi’lek’s from before the clone came along, as I recall.

10 minutes ago, Cifer said:

Good point – probably right after Alderaan, considering it's not a central world that can be used to make an example, but filled with enough frustration for Tarkin to definitely blow up.

It's possible - alternatively, the rebels just sent someone to pick her up after the whole Lothal business was tended to. After all, the planet had no more value to the empire at that point, so it's unlikely to be blockaded.

All in all, I absolutely loved the episode. The only point I'm not to keen on is Hera's son. I don't think he was really necessary - after all, the space family already had its son and daughter, along with mom, dad and crazy uncle - and he opened the can of worms about interbreeding that wasn't indicated anywhere previously (at least to my knowledge).

3 minutes ago, Daronil said:

There was an episode of "The Clone Wars" that dealt with a clone that had gone off the reservation and settled down with a Twi'lek partner, and they had kids. I was a bit surprised by that, because up until then, with regard to interspecies relationships, Star Wars* was pretty much directly opposed to Star Trek, but that TCW episode canonised the idea that it was possible.

Personally, I've always found the whole interspecies thing a bit...off colour? I mean, I'm more closely related to a jellyfish than I am to a Betazoid...

* - with the exception of things like Jabba's thing for Twi'lek dancers, but that's shown as a weird fetish rather than normalised.

Hybrids are certainly not new to Star Wars. There have been others in the movies and old EU as well. My only question with this kid is when did Hera and Kanaan actually “do it”?

13 minutes ago, Cifer said:

Good point – probably right after Alderaan, considering it's not a central world that can be used to make an example, but filled with enough frustration for Tarkin to definitely blow up.

It's possible - alternatively, the rebels just sent someone to pick her up after the whole Lothal business was tended to. After all, the planet had no more value to the empire at that point, so it's unlikely to be blockaded.

So far as we know, though, Ezra was the only one who knew she survived. It would all depend on whether or not he told the others offscreen. And since they’d agreed that she would go find him, he might not have felt it necessary.

Just now, Tramp Graphics said:

My only question with this kid is when did Hera and Kanaan actually “do it”?

Pretty much the only option would be between their big **** kiss and Hera leaving for Yavin, I guess.