9 hours ago, kinnison said:

Oh I don't mind the Obi-wan/Maul duel. But it was anti-climatic from the Teasers for the episode. Since it is a kiddie show you really didn't see where Maul was cut... assumed it was a sucking chest wound to allow Maul to have a pseudo final redemption

See, your problem is that you watch teasers

On 3/20/2017 at 2:15 PM, 2P51 said:

So muskets can blow up A-wings?

Remember, it's an A-Wing that's assigned to Phoenix Squadron. You look at a Phoenix Squadron A-Wing cross eyed and it will go up in a fireball.

Dues anyone have any idea when the Season 3 finale "Zero Hour" will air in the UK? Was kinda expecting it yesterday (25th) but nothing on Disney XD??

It was broadcast. just watched it.

42 minutes ago, mouthymerc said:

It was broadcast. just watched it.

That on Disney XD via sky?

1 minute ago, AceSolo5 said:

That on Disney XD via sky?

No Idea about that. It was on regular XD last night. Recorded it and watched it this morning here in the Great White North.

Been scouring the search function on my Sky box & it states that episodes 21 & 22 of season 3 are on there but lists them as spark of Rebellion??

Well, that was a hell of an episode. Quite a bit to unpack -

I loved that Ezra's spacesuit was full on Zeerust 50's Sci-Fi. Now he needs a rocket ship to go with it.

I liked how they made Thrawn look strong - the rebels only got away thanks to Tom Baker Ex Machina, Konstantine being a boob and Price's ineffectual mediocrity as a field commander.

That tracking shot following Kanan through the ghost, with all the depressed and beaten rebels was really powerful.

With Sato going out like a boss, Hera is getting her promotion. Check back on this post in October - she's totally getting command of Phoenix squadron.

And can we talk about the quality of shade Tarkin threw at Thrawn, when Thrawn tells him it would be hard to take prisoners? Tarkin's wonderful retorts he was "confident a man of his talent should have no issue taking prisoners". That was some hand crafted free range cage free artisan shade right there.

Massive space battle? Very satisfying.

" WHAT JEDI DEVILRY IS THIS! "

And of course Bendu's parting words to Thrawn (right before Grand Admiral Balls of Steel shoots god in the face). You can tell that this prophecy of doom shook him. Clearly the seeds of doubt have been sewn.

And lord did we set up things in Season 4! The Mandalorian Civil War! Kallus becoming a fully fledged member of the rebellion! The Kallus and Zeb Double Act! The Strike at Lothal! Yavin action!

Overall I think the season 2 climax was more satisfying on a personal, emotional level, but I still very much enjoyed this episode too.

Heh... Desslok, you've been on the reddit thread, haven't you?

Thrawn shooting God in the face is my line!

In all seriousness, though, the stakes have definitely been raised.

Next season could very well be some Cloak and Dagger type stuff on Mandalore. The Empire and the Rebels both want the Mandalorians on their side, but I doubt they'll be able to outright lend military support. That would just make their particular faction seem too weak to stand on their own.

So it's going to be a lot of moving pieces behind the scenes while the mandos fight on the front lines.

55 minutes ago, Desslok said:

I liked how they made Thrawn look strong - the rebels only got away thanks to Tom Baker Ex Machina, Konstantine being a boob and Price's ineffectual mediocrity as a field commander.

But Thrawn was in command. Their individual actions are on them, but that they're able to go out of line like that in the first place is on him. The hell kind of military leader are you if you can't make the commanders under you do as they're told. Thrawn's lacking in people skills. He's a master analyst, but he can't inspire loyalty and confidence, it seems.

What really impressed me about these episodes was how desperate the situation for the Rebels felt. The way that frigate was just torn apart, the suicide run of Sato and the two unnamed crew members, the overwhelming numbers of the Empire, that awe-inspiring shot of Hera and the the orbital bombardment... Those were all all beautifully animated, but they also really carried a hefty emotional punch.

I thought the outcome was well handled. Thrawn smashed up those Rebels, but didn't wipe them out, largely because of Constantine & Price's ambitions, the Bendu's wrath, and an unexpected Mandalorian commando attack*. Thus, if the creators want to have the Emperor (perhaps with advice from Tarkin) exile Thrawn to the Unknown Regions because he failed, they can, while still having Thrawn's tactical & strategic acumen unblemished; then he can come back in some future media. Or they can keep him around for season 4, with the Bendu's foretelling in place, and possibly have that be his end, whether temporary or permanent.

*Note that the reason the Mandalorians showed up was that Sabine got the darksaber from Maul's lair, because Maul took Ezra there and Sabine followed. Without the darksaber, Sabine wouldn't have attempted to reconcile with her family, and there would have been no one for Ezra to go to for help. Basically, Maul indirectly and inadvertently saved the Rebellion, at least that chunk including Dodonna & co.

And off to Yavin they go, so no Dantooine, heheh.

3 hours ago, Kallabecca said:

And off to Yavin they go, so no Dantooine, heheh.

No it can still have been a rebel cell's base. From Rebels we know of two cells - Phoenix Group and the Massassi Group. I'm assuming that the Massassi cell referred to in the finale were the ones stationed at Yavin. Simply put, they may have been at Dantooine before moving to Yavin. We didn't see them there, because Rebels has been following the Phoenix cell, not the other.

18 minutes ago, Sturn said:

No it can still have been a rebel cell's base. From Rebels we know of two cells - Phoenix Group and the Massassi Group. I'm assuming that the Massassi cell referred to in the finale were the ones stationed at Yavin. Simply put, they may have been at Dantooine before moving to Yavin. We didn't see them there, because Rebels has been following the Phoenix cell, not the other.

"Secret Cargo" made mention of the Dantooine base in passing.

I admit, as I said a few times, I fully expected the Phoenix group to go from Atallon to Dantooine to Yavin. Looks like they're going straight to the latter, where they'll operate from for the better part of two years until Rogue One. Who "they" are, beyond General Syndulla and Chopper remains to be seen.

2 hours ago, Sturn said:

No it can still have been a rebel cell's base. From Rebels we know of two cells - Phoenix Group and the Massassi Group. I'm assuming that the Massassi cell referred to in the finale were the ones stationed at Yavin. Simply put, they may have been at Dantooine before moving to Yavin. We didn't see them there, because Rebels has been following the Phoenix cell, not the other.

My comment was about a previous poster's desire to see the Dantooine base. I just didn't got dig it up and quote it, heheh.

12 hours ago, Desslok said:

Well, that was a hell of an episode. Quite a bit to unpack -

I loved that Ezra's spacesuit was full on Zeerust 50's Sci-Fi. Now he needs a rocket ship to go with it.

Great season finale. I had figured Sabine would show up in the finale or in season 4.

Anyone else have the hardest time understanding Bendu when he went all Lady Galadriel on Kanan or was that just me?

Bendu is now one with the Force (and the Force is with him).

Also Bendu is kind of a child in how he handles problems, doesn't really take his own advice about that whole "balance" thing. "I ain't getting involved. OK I'M PISSED GET OFF MY PLANET." If that's what balance looks like, which is basically inaction until you're forced into a situation, seems kind of like a stupid philosophy.

More Rebel ships being torn apart like paper (did the capital ships fire back? I didn't see them fire back).

Kallus actually looking beat up after his fight with Thrawn was just great animation.

Kallus's broadcasting station on Lothal was Ezra's home from the first episode of the series.

Kanan driving a speeder bike, actually dodging turbolaser fire for a while. Love it... so there is hope for blind pilots! (I swear this show and the ridiculous lengths it goes to).

Gonna have to re-watch this one a couple times during the break. Excited to see the direction they take things for season 4. IMO more satisfying than the season 2 cop-out ending in which Ahsoka's fate is left ambiguous because "reasons".

31 minutes ago, GroggyGolem said:

Also Bendu is kind of a child in how he handles problems, doesn't really take his own advice about that whole "balance" thing. "I ain't getting involved. OK I'M PISSED GET OFF MY PLANET." If that's what balance looks like, which is basically inaction until you're forced into a situation, seems kind of like a stupid philosophy.

He was neutral to the end. He targeted everyone, not just the Imperials. He was pissed because this crap came to his world and now he was exposed and had to get involved.

12 hours ago, coyote6 said:

I thought the outcome was well handled. Thrawn smashed up those Rebels, but didn't wipe them out, largely because of Constantine & Price's ambitions, the Bendu's wrath, and an unexpected Mandalorian commando attack*. Thus, if the creators want to have the Emperor (perhaps with advice from Tarkin) exile Thrawn to the Unknown Regions because he failed, they can, while still having Thrawn's tactical & strategic acumen unblemished; then he can come back in some future media. Or they can keep him around for season 4, with the Bendu's foretelling in place, and possibly have that be his end, whether temporary or permanent.

*Note that the reason the Mandalorians showed up was that Sabine got the darksaber from Maul's lair, because Maul took Ezra there and Sabine followed. Without the darksaber, Sabine wouldn't have attempted to reconcile with her family, and there would have been no one for Ezra to go to for help. Basically, Maul indirectly and inadvertently saved the Rebellion, at least that chunk including Dodonna & co.

It is even better, Maul only saved the rebellion because of Palpatine's refusal to reconsider Maul as his apprentice which was purely based on his ambition to take down Mother Talzin. It is the small details that matter.

I liked the Kallus/Thrawn fight... "You talk too much!" was a great line, echoing what I've often thought about Thrawn.

For those "small galaxy" types who wonder where these Rebels were around BoY and why Kanan and Luke never appear to have met...I think we might be set up for them going to Lothal while E4 plays out. At least, I hope they use that kind of story as an opportunity to show how big the Rebel effort was becoming.

8 hours ago, Kallabecca said:

My comment was about a previous poster's desire to see the Dantooine base. I just didn't got dig it up and quote it, heheh.

I'd said it a few times, myself. But it was less a desire to see it than a prediction that's where they'd base out of next.

18 minutes ago, whafrog said:

I liked the Kallus/Thrawn fight... "You talk too much!" was a great line, echoing what I've often thought about Thrawn.

For those "small galaxy" types who wonder where these Rebels were around BoY and why Kanan and Luke never appear to have met...I think we might be set up for them going to Lothal while E4 plays out. At least, I hope they use that kind of story as an opportunity to show how big the Rebel effort was becoming.

They've got a fairly slim window in between their involvement at the Battle of Scarif and the Battle of Yavin to stage the Lothal strike. Although I do like that idea for explaining why they weren't around. Maybe they went straight to Lothal from Scarif on their own.

20 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

But Thrawn was in command. Their individual actions are on them, but that they're able to go out of line like that in the first place is on him. The hell kind of military leader are you if you can't make the commanders under you do as they're told. Thrawn's lacking in people skills. He's a master analyst, but he can't inspire loyalty and confidence, it seems.

What really impressed me about these episodes was how desperate the situation for the Rebels felt. The way that frigate was just torn apart, the suicide run of Sato and the two unnamed crew members, the overwhelming numbers of the Empire, that awe-inspiring shot of Hera and the the orbital bombardment... Those were all all beautifully animated, but they also really carried a hefty emotional punch.

Konstantine was definitely not Thrawn's fault. The admiral disobeyed a direct order, and was openly insubordinate when Thrawn ordered him to return to position.

Plus, Konstantine is not part if Thrawn's task force. The troops with the Chimera emblem all seem well-trained and faultlessly loyal. Plus, they've got the audio logs. Konstantine's last words might as well have been "Leeeeeroooooooy Jeeeeenkiiiiiins!"

8 hours ago, GroggyGolem said:

Kanan driving a speeder bike, actually dodging turbolaser fire for a while. Love it... so there is hope for blind pilots! (I swear this show and the ridiculous lengths it goes to).

This part caused grimaces. Not the dodging part which can be the Force in action. But TUROBLASERS getting near hits (as in a couple feet) by a person on a speeder bike to no affect. The entire area should have been melted.

I liked seeing the Death Troopers with Thrawn.

But, what should we infer by this? Rogue One suggests they are ISB or special project troops. We don't see them with Vader, but we see them with a Grand Admiral. I can't make sense (for game purposes) of their official Imperial use or branch.