thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

You did. Rebel's has not actually gotten to the events of Rogue One yet. That will probably be the end of Season 4.

I just hope that the new canon origin of the X-wing doesn't have it as something thrown together by some special snowflake on an Outer Rim world, or even worse some bizarre "discovery" of a cache of magical fighters. Old canon at least made sense by having the X-wing be the result of a corporation's R&D efforts.

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

I just hope that the new canon origin of the X-wing doesn't have it as something thrown together by some special snowflake on an Outer Rim world, or even worse some bizarre "discovery" of a cache of magical fighters. Old canon at least made sense by having the X-wing be the result of a corporation's R&D efforts.

Fully agreed.

I wasn't a fan of what they did with the B-Wing, relative to what could have been done to adapt the Verpine origin. (And never mind that the B-Wing used to be a post-Yavin project...)

the B-Wing is season 2 was a barely functioning prototype. If you notice, it has not been in an episode since that one and it isn't even on Chopper base or the hanger ship so it is highly likely that it is being refined by someone else.

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

It's funnier and much more apparent when you're using text to speech...

the B-Wing is season 2 was a barely functioning prototype. If you notice, it has not been in an episode since that one and it isn't even on Chopper base or the hanger ship so it is highly likely that it is being refined by someone else.

Which doesn't really address any of my reasons for not liking the changed origin.

I still think Quarrie is a horrible name for a Mon Calamari. Sounds too much like an anti-Quarren racial slur to me. I understand why they did it but I would have greatly preferred a non Mon Calamari and non Quarren character for the naming, maybe one of the X-Wing designers.

Better yet. Mcquarrie played a rebel general in the background of ESB so why not bring that character back for some role if they wanted to honor his memory?

It is if you believe that things are just wished into existence. Ships take a long, long time to design and test and redefine, even in these days of rapid design, which Star Wars arguably does not have given that they are still using the same basic technology for at least 1000 years. Take a look through Earth military history from 1800 to 2000, it is rife with examples of technology that was available years before it was adopted for general use by the military either because of perceived lack of need or design problems. The Winchester Repeating Rifle is a good example of the first and the Gatling gun is a good example of the second.

The Winchester was available and in widespread civilian use in the North and West, Winchester Firearms even had it sent to the DOA for testing and the army said it was a fine rifle, but they were already ordering 70+ different types of rifles which used 30+ different sizes of shot, so they declined after several wealthy Northern officers personally bought the rifles and ammo for their units, both sides took notice and after the war was over, the rifle was further refined and put into general use in the 1870s.

In Star Wars lore this could have been written as: The Winchester Repeating Rifle was not put into use by the US army until the 1870s after the muzzleloader was shown to be outdated in the previous decade during the Battle of Gheetysburgh.

Likewise, the Gatling gun appeared near the end of the same war and was a failure as the design had many, many flaws. It was refined and put into general use about the same time as the Winchester but fell out of use as reliable single barrel machine guns (both electric and recoil driven) proved less expensive to make and more reliable in the 1890s to 1900s. Fast foward, to the 1960s this "forgotten" technology was then applied to small bore cannons and equipped on aircraft and other vehicles as a higher ROF can be achieved with the rotating barrels, allowing a more efficient loading and shell ejection operation while also giving the barrels a longer time to cool. This was achieved through the use of an electric motor and a timing belt to minimize the jamming issues that plagued it's ancestors.

Again in Star Wars, this could have easily been written as During the Vietnam War, the US deployed attack helicopters for use with gatling guns for the first time after it was found during the Korean Conflict that traditional machine-guns and autocannons were not effective in the Jet age.

Also, the technology for Helicopters was developed in WW2 but not in widespread use until Korea about 5 years later

Remember Star Wars is strongly inspired by World War II and in World War II new fighter designs didn't take that long to create. Look at the P-51 Mustang which took less then four months to design and get the prototype in the air. with production models entering service around 15 months after the prototype first flew.

It is if you believe that things are just wished into existence. Ships take a long, long time to design and test and redefine, even in these days of rapid design, which Star Wars arguably does not have given that they are still using the same basic technology for at least 1000 years. Take a look through Earth military history from 1800 to 2000, it is rife with examples of technology that was available years before it was adopted for general use by the military either because of perceived lack of need or design problems. The Winchester Repeating Rifle is a good example of the first and the Gatling gun is a good example of the second.

The Winchester was available and in widespread civilian use in the North and West, Winchester Firearms even had it sent to the DOA for testing and the army said it was a fine rifle, but they were already ordering 70+ different types of rifles which used 30+ different sizes of shot, so they declined after several wealthy Northern officers personally bought the rifles and ammo for their units, both sides took notice and after the war was over, the rifle was further refined and put into general use in the 1870s.

In Star Wars lore this could have been written as: The Winchester Repeating Rifle was not put into use by the US army until the 1870s after the muzzleloader was shown to be outdated in the previous decade during the Battle of Gheetysburgh.

Likewise, the Gatling gun appeared near the end of the same war and was a failure as the design had many, many flaws. It was refined and put into general use about the same time as the Winchester but fell out of use as reliable single barrel machine guns (both electric and recoil driven) proved less expensive to make and more reliable in the 1890s to 1900s. Fast foward, to the 1960s this "forgotten" technology was then applied to small bore cannons and equipped on aircraft and other vehicles as a higher ROF can be achieved with the rotating barrels, allowing a more efficient loading and shell ejection operation while also giving the barrels a longer time to cool. This was achieved through the use of an electric motor and a timing belt to minimize the jamming issues that plagued it's ancestors.

Again in Star Wars, this could have easily been written as During the Vietnam War, the US deployed attack helicopters for use with gatling guns for the first time after it was found during the Korean Conflict that traditional machine-guns and autocannons were not effective in the Jet age.

Also, the technology for Helicopters was developed in WW2 but not in widespread use until Korea about 5 years later

Thank you for the long list of semi-accurate explanations of things I already knew.

None of which has anything to do with why I don't care for the changes shown for the origin of the B-Wing.

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

It's funnier and much more apparent when you're using text to speech...

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Remember Star Wars is strongly inspired by World War II and in World War II new fighter designs didn't take that long to create. Look at the P-51 Mustang which took less then four months to design and get the prototype in the air. with production models entering service around 15 months after the prototype first flew.

The P-51 was developed and put into production at lighting speed, but not the only plane developed in that time frame. The F4U Corsair took 2 years to go from Prototype (May 1940) to production and it was almost 2 years after it entered service that it would be have the design modifications to allow it to fulfill its original purpose as a Carrier Based Aircraft.

So even with the WWII outlook it is reasonable for different designs to develop at different paces. Same thing can happen in Star Wars.

When it comes to the B-Wing. I wouldn't compare it to WWII aircraft unless you want to think of it as the ME-262 which never was fully developed. I see the B-Wing as more of the A-10 Thunderbolt II "Warthog". Even that took 4 years to go from Prototype to Production.

The P-51 was developed and put into production at lighting speed, but not the only plane developed in that time frame

And the initial planes were woefully underpowered so much so that even the UK who were desperate for airframes did not want them, it was not until that they married it to the engine that was in the spitfire that the plane excelled.

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Speeling? Whoa neds speeling?

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

It's funnier and much more apparent when you're using text to speech...

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Especially when they typo. I wonder if it looked as bad as it sounded when I ran across a fat fingered y that turned into a u when someone meant to type Cynthia.

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Speeling? Whoa neds speeling?

Tha farce iz strung wit dis wun!

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

It's funnier and much more apparent when you're using text to speech...

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Especially when they typo. I wonder if it looked as bad as it sounded when I ran across a fat fingered y that turned into a u when someone meant to type Cynthia.

Personally, I like it. I just try to enjoy it for what it is, and not pick it apart.

It just reminds me of why I don't watch shows until they've completed their run or there are at least 5 seasons out already. I don't do well with waiting a week between episodes. I end up having to re-watch the entire series numerous times.

Personally, I like it. I just try to enjoy it for what it is, and not pick it apart.

It just reminds me of why I don't watch shows until they've completed their run or there are at least 5 seasons out already. I don't do well with waiting a week between episodes. I end up having to re-watch the entire series numerous times.

Yeah, the show was never meant to be highbrow entertainment. It's ultimately a kids' show, primarily made for a young audience. That it's able to appeal to older audiences is, for the show's creators, an added bonus.

I'm largely okay with the wait between episodes, but I will admit that being able to binge-watch TV series on Netflix is starting to spoil me in terms of viewing experiences...

thought I saw some x-wings in a Rouge One trailer

Rouge One, Lipstick Two, Foundation Three...the most glamorous squadrons in the galaxy, the Tarts of Terror, Floozies of the Force...

...or perhaps you meant "Rogue"...

It's funnier and much more apparent when you're using text to speech...

I just wish people knew what they were spelling...

Especially when they typo. I wonder if it looked as bad as it sounded when I ran across a fat fingered y that turned into a u when someone meant to type Cynthia.

Well, if ever there was a good place for a fat fingering...

(subtitle: a man in a business meeting calmly getting up, walking over to the window and jumping out)

The network did a run of Rebels episodes this weekend, from the start of the current season to the Visions episode, so I DVRed them and caught up yesterday afternoon.

Interesting so far. I think we know for a fact which established movie character is going to be appearing and which planet they'll be visiting before the end of the season.

SPOILER WARNING for Rogue One below...

@Kreiger22

(Rogue One Spoiler)

@Kreiger22

(Rogue One Spoiler)

I am having trouble digging up the image, but someone on the Star Wars team compile a couple of images from Rebels that hinted to Vader's presence on Mustafar. Hera saying "Mustafar is were Jedi go to die". I think Ahsoka may have mentioned that she was investigating a Sith presence on Mustafar, but I may be misremembering.