[SPOILERS]: Star Wars: Rebels - Thoughts?

By GM Hooly, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Single rotors cause problems with torque. That's why helicopters have a tail rotor to compensate for the induced torque from the main rotor. Other methods include multiple rotors that are counter-rotating (like the Chinook heavy-lift chopper, or the Russian KA-50/52 which puts the rotors on a coaxial layout).

Presumably, the Inquisitor's force power is keeping them from rotating.

Remember the first time you saw Star Wars and saw all this fantastic and unrealistic stuff and, rather than question and critique, you just sat in awe and accepted it for the space opera epic it was? :-) I miss those days.

I never had those days. My brain has always had the "wait a minute, what?" reflex.

Often when I re-watch favorite childhood stuff with friends they roll their eyes and moan about flaws. To me it always seems the same; I always saw those flaws even as a kid but honestly didn't then, and still don't, care. Laser-swords are freakin' cool.

I used to put on a dressing gown, grab a stick, and then run around the yard screaming "I'm a Jedi!" at the neighbours, all whilst in the company of my faithful "Ewok" Yorkshire terrier. I always wondered why my mother didn't understand why I was too busy to go to bed - I had a galaxy to save, dammit.

The heli-saber situation was probably one of those where the boss said, “wouldn’t this be cool if…” and everyone nodded emphatically while cringing inside.

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The only issue I had with the heli-sabers is we've never seen the Inquisitors use them in such a fashion before. It would have probably worked better if only the new Inquisitor had that ability because heli-saber certainly would have helped the 5th Brother and 7th Sister in a number of their previous encounters with the Rebels throughout Season 2. So ultimately it looked like a decision totally based on the individual needs of THIS story, and not something that was terribly well thought out in advance.

A mild spoiler of a book:

Asajj Ventress is dead, so unfortunately she can no longer be used as a Dark side villian. Unfortunately only Maul, Saviage, Ventress really fitted the mold of "experienced in sith magic,", the other two being dead means Maul really is the only choice.

One thing I am wondering about is that they never really cover where these inquistors come from, though then again personally I imagine the studeo wants them portrayed as only evil at the moment, only to present a story after their passing. That way there is no confusion or regret about them being villians. Personally, Barriss probably was made an inquistor.

The other thing is I don't think inquistors will be a main rival again; I think Hands of the Emperor would be a nice escalation, and somewhat appropriate considering Vaders battering and failure to retrieve the weapon, and maul's continued existence.

In a post-finale interview, Filoni stated that they won't be the big bad next season. If that slot is to be filled at all, they're looking at Maul. Part of the reasoning is that the Inquisitors need to be off the board by the time of the movies...they've outlived their usefulness both in and out of story.

If anybody is disappointed with that finale, please turn in your Star Wars Fan Membership card on your way out.

Seriously, that was fricking great.

I find Coptersabers to be utterly stupid, and I'm keeping my fan card thank you very much :P The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

I used to put on a dressing gown, grab a stick, and then run around the yard screaming "I'm a Jedi!" at the neighbours, all whilst in the company of my faithful "Ewok" Yorkshire terrier. I always wondered why my mother didn't understand why I was too busy to go to bed - I had a galaxy to save, dammit.

This reminds me so much of that Energizer commercial for Force Awakens. :D That made my day picturing that.

Remember the first time you saw Star Wars and saw all this fantastic and unrealistic stuff and, rather than question and critique, you just sat in awe and accepted it for the space opera epic it was? :-) I miss those days.

That was seeing Return of the Jedi in the theaters as a kid on release. Biggest event of my...what, 8ish? 10ish? Year old life. First time I'd ever seen people lined up around the corner to see a movie. And when we got in there, it was packed. I was smack in the middle of the theater, in the middle of the row, suuurrrounded by fans. I don't remember much of that, except the theater losing their shi* when Luke landed on the skiff, caught his saber, ignited it for the first time, and John Williams' music swept in. It blew my mind as akid to see people react like that.

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I never saw any Star Wars film in the cinema save The Force Awakens; my first exposure to the original trilogy was on my dad's friend's battered VHS boxset. :-)

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I never saw any Star Wars film in the cinema save The Force Awakens; my first exposure to the original trilogy was on my dad's friend's battered VHS boxset. :-)

That's where my exposure lived for years. The original, un-specialized VHS tapes. But **** do I remember that movie experience :D

I never saw any Star Wars film in the cinema save The Force Awakens; my first exposure to the original trilogy was on my dad's friend's battered VHS boxset. :-)

That's where my exposure lived for years. The original, un-specialized VHS tapes. But **** do I remember that movie experience :D

Laserdiscs of all 3. So much better than the VHS as I got the full widescreen view. And they don't decay with each playback.

I never saw any Star Wars film in the cinema save The Force Awakens; my first exposure to the original trilogy was on my dad's friend's battered VHS boxset. :-)

That's where my exposure lived for years. The original, un-specialized VHS tapes. But **** do I remember that movie experience :D

Laserdiscs of all 3. So much better than the VHS as I got the full widescreen view. And they don't decay with each playback.

I've sat down and counted how many times/formats I've bought them in, and get "that" look from my wife.

Original VHS

THX remastered VHS

Original laserdisc

Special Edition (widescreen) VHS

Special edition laserdisc

Special Edition (full screen) for our son

DVD initial release

DVD second release (with original theatrical versions as bonus discs)

Blu-ray box set

I'm sure I'll re-buy them in another format at some point in the future.

I wish I could have seen the originals on the big screen. But the only one I ever heard of being put back on the cinema screen post-release was The Phantom Menace.

I wish I could have seen the originals on the big screen. But the only one I ever heard of being put back on the cinema screen post-release was The Phantom Menace.

It's a double-edged sword. On the one hand, yes it is awesome to have seen the OT back in the day, pre-internet, with all the newness and excitement.

On the other hand, it makes you pretty old. Like me :)

I wish I could have seen the originals on the big screen. But the only one I ever heard of being put back on the cinema screen post-release was The Phantom Menace.

Just before the Special Editions came out the OT was put out in the original format. Got to see all three back-to-back in one go. That was a nice, but long day at the movies.

Seems most of what I've heard about the Inquisitors using their 'sabers as helicopters matches what I've seen in this thread.

I'll admit, the first time that new Inquisitor did it, I simply wrote it off as him using it for a bit of visual flair and that it was mostly him Force-leaping to an extent like we saw in the prequels and TCW series. But using it to actually fly? That for me was going a step too far in terms of "that sounds cool, let's do it!" Hopefully the reaction serves as a warning to Filoni and the writers that while Star Wars has always run on "rule of cool," there are limits.

And while I was never a fan of Maul's resurrection back in TCW (still think it was ultimately a ratings gimmick), it was still pretty cool to see the Inquisitors (especially Fifth Brother from his facial expression) have an "oh crap, it's HIM!" moment when Maul properly revealed himself, given their generally smug attitude towards Kanan and Ahsoka. The guy is likely pushing 60 at this point, and Maul was still fully capable of holding his own against the three of them; Maul in his prime would likely have annihilated them in moments.

As for Ahsoka, while her story in Rebels might be done, I'm not entirely convinced that she's dead. I'll need to rewatch the ending, but I could have sworn I'd seen a glimpse of her image in the shot of the planet's cavern system just before the bird-thing (which some have speculated to be an avatar of the Daughter from the Mortis arc) flew off.

Going to be interesting to see how Kanan adapts to having been blinded in the long run. That he was able to defeat Maul (though a bit worn-down) shows how far the "cowboy Jedi" has come since Spark of Rebellion.

Maul was cut in half and "got better".

No body = no proof = could be back later.

I think the next Inquisitor pairing should be an Ewok and a Gungan. No, an Ewok-Gungan hybrid. With rocket boots and a custom saber-rifle.

So, A whole bunch of stuff from Dave Filoni in his interviews, about Ahsoka being done in Rebels, but her final fate no being decided. He also stated the Inquisitors would be less and less common, as they weren't mentioned in the original trilogy. Dave Filoni says he considers that to mean they're all gone, and this was the way to start moving towards that end.

The alarming thing I hear (and this didn't come from Dave Filoni, but rather open rumors around the net) is that Rebels is done after season three, or season four at the most. Following on from that Filoni and crew will begin handling a new animated series set between episodes VI and VII, dealing with the interim stories that tie the OT and ST together.

I think the next Inquisitor pairing should be an Ewok and a Gungan. No, an Ewok-Gungan hybrid. With rocket boots and a custom saber-rifle.

A Gungwok, bred by the unfortunate habit of people trying to drown Ewoks in the waters of Naboo, and being rescued and sexified by a passing, randy Gungan. Mmm, aquatic furry sexy time, hawt.

"Ooosah! Yeah! Yousa knows yousa likes it like that baby! Whatsa me nameza!?" "EEEEIIIIICHAA!" "Thatsa rightsa! Whosa your daddy?!"

So, A whole bunch of stuff from Dave Filoni in his interviews, about Ahsoka being done in Rebels, but her final fate no being decided. He also stated the Inquisitors would be less and less common, as they weren't mentioned in the original trilogy. Dave Filoni says he considers that to mean they're all gone, and this was the way to start moving towards that end.

The alarming thing I hear (and this didn't come from Dave Filoni, but rather open rumors around the net) is that Rebels is done after season three, or season four at the most. Following on from that Filoni and crew will begin handling a new animated series set between episodes VI and VII, dealing with the interim stories that tie the OT and ST together.

Again, I will never understand that obsession with "OMG, they were never mentioned in the OT, so they must not exist by then!" or "Yoda once looked left instead of right, that must MEAN something!"

(Not directing that at you, just some fans and evidently the Rebels creative team...)

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I think the beholden thing comes more from on high than anything else as far as the series goes. They are more than willing to break that rule when it suits them I'm sure too. Gearge did it in regards to Maul and Boba Fett and Disney will too. Nothing wrong with leaving the Inquisitors as something in our games, expecially F&D games. They make a great opposition to our Force characters when running games set in the Empire period. Brotherhood of Dark Force Users up against our F-Men.

Another interview with Dave on IGN

Including the answer (kind of) to the question: "So… Vader and Maul are going to totally fight next season, right?"

I'm not as excited by these potential fights as some are... this all being "future history", we know that the outcome can't go certain places.

Ghost crew vs Vader... we knew Vader had to pretty much come out on top of that one, he couldn't really lose.

Ahsoka vs Vader... we knew Vader couldn't die, or be redeemed, or the like. At the very least he HAD to survive that fight.

Maul vs Vader... again, Vader can't die or substantially fail.

Actually, the real problem here is making Vader a recurring part of the show, instead of a distant dark master directing his Inquisitors. I wasn't so thrilled to see Lando or Leia, but at least they were there and gone.

I'm not as excited by these potential fights as some are... this all being "future history", we know that the outcome can't go certain places.

Ghost crew vs Vader... we knew Vader had to pretty much come out on top of that one, he couldn't really lose.

Ahsoka vs Vader... we knew Vader couldn't die, or be redeemed, or the like. At the very least he HAD to survive that fight.

Maul vs Vader... again, Vader can't die or substantially fail.

Actually, the real problem here is making Vader a recurring part of the show, instead of a distant dark master directing his Inquisitors. I wasn't so thrilled to see Lando or Leia, but at least they were there and gone.

Compared to most traditional cartoon villains, Vader's at least allowed to succeed making him a credible threat. I realized that "Knowing the outcome deflates any tension", but for years most cartoon villains weren't allow to succeed which is a similar problem while making the villains incompetent and nonthreatening.