As for A- and B-Wings prior to Endor, I am cool with that. The a-wing especially, seems to resemble the earlier Jedi Order starfighters. Perhaps Ashoka helped design them since they at rumoured to be her squad. They could be named after her A for Ashoka. Or the A-wing is the hyperdrive equipped version of the spearhead. The squad shown does have a Pelta corvette flying them around.

I never really bought the rebellion having the resources to design new ships, I always saw them as using whatever they could acquire, whether from stealing or allies, rather than designing new things.

All the new canon does is espouse what Yoda said: "you must unlearn what you have learned."

As things are revealed, the current and older RPG fluff is being proven erroneous.

Even in Legends the Clone vWars Jedi Fighter and he A-Wings were tied together because the chief designer of the various fighters the Jedi use in the Clone Wars was an adviser on the A-Wing project. Honesty I always liked Walex Blissex so I'm not sure how I'll feel if his role in creating the A-Wings is cut in the new canon. (In Legends Walex Blissex was a very prolific ships designer having served as chief designer on the Delta-& and Eta 2 Jedi Starfighters, the Alpha-3 Nimbus V-Wing fighters, and the Victory class Star Destroyers along with the initial design of the Gladiator class and after joining the rebellion he was a design consultant on the A-Wing and the later Republic class Star Destroyers.)

Kind of sucks that Ackbar's role in designing the B-Wing is apparently being wiped too.

On the other end, I never liked Walex Blissex for the same reason. I'd be like saying our modern day has one guy as the chief designer for the F-22, F-35, A-10, C-130, Kidd-class destroyers and Nimitz-class Aircraft Carriers.

I don't have a problem with someone being a superb designer (and pioneer) when it comes to vehices.

Somehow Walex Blissex reminds me of poeple like Frederick W. "Casey" Baldwin , Alexander Graham Bell , or Alfred V. Verville .

Trust me there have been some very prolific ship designers and aircraft designers in history so I fail to see why there can't be any in Star Wars. .

I don't have a problem with someone being a superb designer (and pioneer) when it comes to vehices.

Somehow Walex Blissex reminds me of poeple like Frederick W. "Casey" Baldwin , Alexander Graham Bell , or Alfred V. Verville .

Actually he reminds me of Kelly Johnson .

Trust me there have been some very prolific ship designers and aircraft designers in history so I fail to see why there can't be any in Star Wars. .

I think Quicksilver's point was less that the individual had been leas designer on some ships and more that it had been everything from capital ships to little fighters. I.e. their analogy to someone having been the designer of both an aircraft carrier and a fighter jet. I don't know how well that holds up as I've not read the novels but I can see where they're comimg from.

I would be shocked if there was no one who had designed both ships and aircraft historically though I can't recall any examples off the top of my head. And IMO it would be even more feasible in a setting like Star Wars where the only real difference between the two types is scale. There are a lot more differences between the process to design a surface warship and a fighter IRL the there are between the process used to design a Starfighter and a Star Destroyer in Star Wars IMO..

I don't have a problem with someone being a superb designer (and pioneer) when it comes to vehices.

Somehow Walex Blissex reminds me of poeple like Frederick W. "Casey" Baldwin , Alexander Graham Bell , or Alfred V. Verville .

We should add Da Vinci and Tesla to that too.

Actually he reminds me of Kelly Johnson .

With a little bit of Rickover mixed in.

So now we know what happened to Ahsoka. Interesting to see how that will develop.

So now we know what happened to Ahsoka. Interesting to see how that will develop.

After I learned this I finally finished watching the show, and I am glad I did. Between Ezra losing his child's sling shot, his light saber, and her. I like where this is going.

It also doesn't innately contradict Yoda saying "He's not our last hope, there's another" meaning Leia. Because Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra plus however many others being Jedi and running around could still be Jedi and still be alive, but not destined to redeem Vader and lead him to destroying the Emperor. As they may have other roles to play.

to completely derail a thread that was about a fan-produced sourcebook for Rebels, I really don't see anything constructive in his posts.

The topic of this thread is the Rebels TV series. It's not "about a fan-produced sourcebook for Rebels". We've all been using it to discuss the TV series.

I was referring to an entirely separate thread, NOT this one.

In fact, here's the EXACT thread that he derailed with his belligerent/trollish posts about TCW being superior to Rebels .

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/136166-spark-of-rebellion-fan-made-sourcebook-in-the-making/

Note that NO part of that thread was an invite to discuss which show was superior or why, but instead to discuss interest and ideas for a fan-produced supplement about the currently airing Star Wars CGI series.

You really need to re-read those posts.

While I did state I thought the show was terrible? I also *made sure* to follow all of that up - a few times - with the fact that I wished the creators well and admired their spirit and work ethic. It wasn't until your post saying my comments didn't belong in *that* thread that I thought, "Hmmm. He's probably right so I'll head over to *this* thread."

Yet my belief that "Rebels" is not a very good series and my accompanying bullet points - many of them facts, mind you - on what's been bugging me so far? Well, that was obviously akin to rubbing you cats the wrong way. And your claws came out en masse. Like a collective hivemind made up of angry sheep who couldn't handle opinions that differed from their own... "Kill the intruder! And love whatever bright, shiny thing comes down the pike labeled 'Star Wars!'"

Nice to know at least some of you (thanks, Knasserll!) didn't see me as some sort of villain.

But breathe easy, "Rebels" lovers, I'm out of here.

to completely derail a thread that was about a fan-produced sourcebook for Rebels, I really don't see anything constructive in his posts.

The topic of this thread is the Rebels TV series. It's not "about a fan-produced sourcebook for Rebels". We've all been using it to discuss the TV series.

I was referring to an entirely separate thread, NOT this one.

In fact, here's the EXACT thread that he derailed with his belligerent/trollish posts about TCW being superior to Rebels .

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/136166-spark-of-rebellion-fan-made-sourcebook-in-the-making/

Note that NO part of that thread was an invite to discuss which show was superior or why, but instead to discuss interest and ideas for a fan-produced supplement about the currently airing Star Wars CGI series.

You really need to re-read those posts.

While I did state I thought the show was terrible? I also *made sure* to follow all of that up - a few times - with the fact that I wished the creators well and admired their spirit and work ethic. It wasn't until your post saying my comments didn't belong in *that* thread that I thought, "Hmmm. He's probably right so I'll head over to *this* thread."

Yet my belief that "Rebels" is not a very good series and my accompanying bullet points - many of them facts, mind you - on what's been bugging me so far? Well, that was obviously akin to rubbing you cats the wrong way. And your claws came out en masse. Like a collective hivemind made up of angry sheep who couldn't handle opinions that differed from their own... "Kill the intruder! And love whatever bright, shiny thing comes down the pike labeled 'Star Wars!'"

Nice to know at least some of you (thanks, Knasserll!) didn't see me as some sort of villain.

But breathe easy, "Rebels" lovers, I'm out of here.

Oh, come one... Drop the persecution act already.

People didn't agree to your inflammatory retoric more than anything else. The "what are you smoking?" And the "it is a terrible show and you suck for liking it" (I know I am paraphrasing but that is what your posts amounted to) is what rubbed people's cats the wrong way, not the fact that you don't like it. Why should anyone care if you don't? Now add to that the fact that all your so called "facts" are basically applicable to each and every Star Wars show, book, comic or movie kinda dimishes their worth and you might see why people replied to you the way they did.

Oooh! Season 2 Trailer!

Spoilering it because the Youtube Thumbnail has a pretty big reveal. . . .

Also, the dude who shows up at 2:37 - interesting, he's wearing a Samurai-ish outfit:

Oooh! Season 2 Trailer!

Also, the dude who shows up at 2:37 - interesting, he's wearing a Samurai-ish outfit:

Aside from the wide shoulders, I didn't see anything that made his costume look like the one here. He was in pants, not an ankle length robe, if I'm not mistaken.

As for other parts... So, now the A-wings and the B-wings were produced before the Battle of Endor, and even before the Battle of Yavin.

Amazing....

Yeeeeees!

Looks amazing! Going to cause lots of work, but it's all good

Looked like Venator's at 0:29. (edit: nope, they aren't, thanks MrDodger). That's cool they are showing a few are still around. And the old guys showing up is pretty awesome also.

Not sure if I like the A and B wings showing up very early. I would rather have seen some Y and X wings since they came first and this is pre-Endor. I'm not sure of the decision making. Hopefully it wasn't just, "I like these, let's put them in, screw the old EU we're Mouse Commandos!!". If they are prototypes somehow central to the story then it fixes it for me. But a change just to force them in for no good reason I see as senseless. Even if you ignore EU they are seen two movies early. There should be a good reason we don't see B-wings and A-wings in the hangar at Yavin or flying down the Death Star's trench.

Wow. "They'll all be coming now..."

Reaaaaaaaally looking forward to Season 2.

Looked like Venator's at 0:29. That's cool they are showing a few are still around. And the old guys showing up is pretty awesome also.

Not sure if I like the A and B wings showing up very early. I would rather have seen some Y and X wings since they came first and this is pre-Endor. I'm not sure of the decision making. Hopefully it wasn't just, "I like these, let's put them in, screw the old EU we're Mouse Commandos!!". If they are prototypes somehow central to the story then it fixes it for me. But a change just to force them in for no good reason I see as senseless. Even if you ignore EU they are seen two movies early. There should be a good reason we don't see B-wings and A-wings in the hangar at Yavin or flying down the Death Star's trench.

Pretty sure they're Arquitens. Would make sense as they already have the model from season one:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arquitens-class_light_cruiser/Canon

As for the other ships, I've learnt this creative team rarely does anything without thought. We'll have to wait and see, but I'm sure it'll be interesting!

The A-Wings could be R-22 Spearheads. I thought the B-Wing was an H-60 Tempest, but I saw the wings so maybe it's a prototype or modification that'll go on to be the B-Wing.

Looks great. Unfortunately my campaign plan is built on what happened to several of TCW characters afterwards. *sigh* Hondo is a major NPC in my next adventure, Ahsoka was in an upcoming one (since re-written to use Ventress instead) and Rex's fate was a major underlying arc.

Ahhhhhhh.

I'm certainly eager for Season 2 to begin. But then that was the case back when Season 1 ended.

From what was said at Celebration, they're looking for a summer release (no exact date as of yet), and with 22 episodes for this season, that gives them more room to go into the backstories of other characters, namely Zeb and Sabine, though I'd hope that we get some more info on Hera as well.

I'm actually kind of intrigued at having Rex and some other old clone troopers show up, particularly as they seem to have a slight surgical scar on the right side of their heads, indicating a surgery to (presumably) have those bio-chips removed.

As for A-Wings and B-Wings (which that particular ship has been identified as) showing up well before the Battle of Yavin... eh *shrugs shoulders* It's been pretty clear since TCW that Filoni is willing to play fast and loose with the existing lore if he thinks it'll make for a better story. I'm sure there's plenty of potential in-universe handwaves as to why the base at Yavin IV didn't have anything other than Y-Wings and X-Wings, such as the Yavin IV base still being fairly new and the fighters present were more of a defensive force than a full-blown assault force.

Interesting how the "bright, shiny new thing" takes precedence over initial opinions, as many of you decried the use of "Clone Wars" material in "Rebels"... Ah, well.

Personally, I believe the inclusion of Ahsoka, Rex, Hondo, and Vader can only mean good things for this new series. (Vader meeting Ahsoka again should make for a fantastic Filoni-helmed episode.)

Here's hoping I like Season Two a whole lot better than the lackluster Season One.

Oh, and although it's never been regarded as any kind of 'official' canon? (At least, I think. But the various levels of canon that first arose in the 90s have been one of my hugest pet peeves.) The 80s cartoon "Droids" featured A-Wings and B-Wings in use before the Battle of Yavin. So these starfighters showing up is not exactly a new thing...

Interesting how the "bright, shiny new thing" takes precedence over initial opinions, as many of you decried the use of "Clone Wars" material in "Rebels"... Ah, well.

I'm looking forward to more, but I still dislike Ahsoka "Sue". Reminds me too much of Wesley Crusher and other young Mary Sue characters. I do like the Clones though. Vader I feel is like dropping an A-bomb but I understand why though. And I could care less about any canon regarding ships.