First couple of episodes she calls him "love"...

Based on A New Dawn and my own observations. I always assumed it was partly her teasing him (which happened a lot in A New Dawn) and partly there being an implied relationship, but they haven't gone the step of making it explicit. Mostly, I get the impression that they both like one another but they haven't gone beyond that. Kind of like Mal and Inara in Firefly (to some extent).

First couple of episodes she calls him "love"...

I've known a few girls that called guys that and they weren't in a relationship.

I dunno, I think they were about to do a bit more than hugging at the end of the season finale before Ezra interrupted.

First couple of episodes she calls him "love"...

I've known a few girls that called guys that and they weren't in a relationship.

Also, they are setting a Family vibe with the crew, and who wants ti see their parents kiss.

Considering what the crew is going through now, and what some have in the past, having a close relationship could be a a hard thing to maintain. It is why certain rekationships fail, when one is in a dangerous occupatiiin such as police officer, firefighter or soldier. It is not the best situation when your partners occupation could have them in harms way. The crew of the Ghost certainly fits that.

First couple of episodes she calls him "love"...

I've known a few girls that called guys that and they weren't in a relationship.

Also, they are setting a Family vibe with the crew, and who wants ti see their parents kiss.

Considering what the crew is going through now, and what some have in the past, having a close relationship could be a a hard thing to maintain. It is why certain rekationships fail, when one is in a dangerous occupatiiin such as police officer, firefighter or soldier. It is not the best situation when your partners occupation could have them in harms way. The crew of the Ghost certainly fits that.

Based on A New Dawn and my own observations. I always assumed it was partly her teasing him (which happened a lot in A New Dawn) and partly there being an implied relationship, but they haven't gone the step of making it explicit. Mostly, I get the impression that they both like one another but they haven't gone beyond that. Kind of like Mal and Inara in Firefly (to some extent).

She really doesn't strike me as the teasing type. And when she calls him "love" several times, it is spoken with affection. Definitely not teasing. The "reminds of someone I used to know" when referring to Ezra's optimism and will to fight compared to Kainen also speaks of a long past together. They are highly comfortable with each other. They could conceivably be post-relation, but definitely they do not come across as pre-relationship. And most of the signs point to them being together, imo. I put the lack of sexual expression mainly down to it being a kid's cartoon and that business being left off-screen.

Based on A New Dawn and my own observations. I always assumed it was partly her teasing him (which happened a lot in A New Dawn) and partly there being an implied relationship, but they haven't gone the step of making it explicit. Mostly, I get the impression that they both like one another but they haven't gone beyond that. Kind of like Mal and Inara in Firefly (to some extent).

If that's the case I wish they'd have done an episode on that, you know add a little depth to the characters. Mal and Inara had an ongoing thing that made it clear they hated what each other was or was trying to be, but liked who each other was really.

With out even some limited exposition it feels more like Kanan and Hera are your friends in high school who are totally dating but trying ( and failing) to keep it a secret. Everyone knows, they just play along until Chopper get's annoyed enough to intentionally walk in on them getting busy in the cargo bay.

Teasing was the wrong word. Flirting is probably more appropriate.

You may be right, but she certainly flirter with him a few times in the book without really considering him as a romantic partner. but may I'm reading too much into the whole situation.

- Four individuals manage to break into an Imperial fortification, destroy an entire TIE fighter squadron, use their Scarlet Witch-like hex powers to make EVERY SINGLE stormtrooper miss them with blaster fire.

To be fair, Sabine was also missing every stormtrooper too. Both sides had troubles hitting their target.

Also, really - what would you want them to do? Are you mad that every single other action movie ever in the history of hollywood has the bad guys unable to shoot their target. James Bond is guilty of this, the A-Team is guilty of this, Die Hard, The Matrix, all three Indidana Jones movies, John Woo flicks, Mission Impossible, Tom Clancey movies, Rambo, and every **** Schwarzenegger movie ever made - none of these have the mooks successfully shooting at and hitting their target.

- Lightsaber battle that looked more like a toy commercial - "Wheel-spinning, double-bladed action! Shoot stun blasts then switch to the slashing! It's a blaster AND a lightsaber! Plus, assemble your own lightsaber! Just attach these disguised components to fool your enemies! It's so fun, kids! Buy! Buy! Buy!"

Thank god Star Wars has never been used to sell toys. Oh, wait -

- A full season has passed and we still have no idea how any of these people got together. Other than Ezra, our entrypoint character.

We know how Hera and Kanan got together. And we've gotten backstory and development on most of the other characters. You would rather have the Exposition Dump Episode instead of a natural, organic story telling? No thanks.

Besides when is having an origin story vital to enjoying a series?

Sturn, I too can play this game.

Cons:

- Four individuals manage to break into an Imperial fortification, destroy an entire TIE fighter squadron, use their Scarlet Witch-like hex powers to make EVERY SINGLE stormtrooper miss them with blaster fire, steal a cruiser, sneak on board a Star Destroyer, evade all of the personnel within said Star Destroyer, and then escape the Star Destroyer. Yeah... (Recall Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewie barely escaped from the Death Star, lost one of their own, and then found out it was all staged so they COULD escape...)

A single snubfighter destroys the most massive battle station in the galaxy. Twice. Care Bears take down an elite armored fighting force. Heroes cornered in a hallway with little cover have a conversation without getting hit by the team of Stormtroopers blasting away at them.

- Lightsaber battle that looked more like a toy commercial - "Wheel-spinning, double-bladed action! Shoot stun blasts then switch to the slashing! It's a blaster AND a lightsaber! Plus, assemble your own lightsaber! Just attach these disguised components to fool your enemies! It's so fun, kids! Buy! Buy! Buy!"

Toys being a large part of Star Wars is a surprise to you? Snubfighters with wings that pop open!

- Ezra didn't die from the fall.

Stressing the viewer with the thought a hero may have fallen? Indy didn't fall off the cliff. Young Kirk didn't fall off the cliff. Strider didn't fall off the cliff. Gandalf didn't die from the fall into the chasm of death with a demon wrapped around him. In Star Wars? R2D2 didn't die from the laser cannon blast. Leia didn't die when shot by the Stormtrooper. Luke didn't die from the fall (and he had an arm cut off to boot!). Han didn't die when frozen in carbonite. You are bashing Rebels for using one of the most used gimmics in story telling history.

- A full season has passed and we still have no idea how any of these people got together. Other than Ezra, our entrypoint character. *sigh*

Without EU, when did we finally get to know how Han and Chewie got together?

God, this show sucks.

Looks like its got Star Wars written all over it.

Your first rebuttal?

Okay, so Ewoks take on an elite fighting force? Sure, with surprise on their side and a knowledge of the forest ... oh, AND a bunch of highly-trained Rebel commandos. Plus, we see some of them die in the skirmish.

Snubfighters take down the Death Stars? Sure, but look at the squadrons that initially attack the first Death Star and then look at how many ships return (three!)... Plus, the son of the "chosen one" - using the Force - is the one who takes it down and he still loses his Astromech. The second Death Star battle saw a ton of casualties. And it took five or more fighters to enter the interior to take it down. Two ultimately cause the chain reaction, and one of those was one of the survivors of the first Death Star attack - a veteran ace pilot.

Characters bantering about in a hallway with gunfire heading toward them? Sure, just like in pretty much every movie and television show known to man. I have no problem with this, especially if the characters are using cover. But note our heroes in the movie you're mentioning have to create an escape route that leads them to a trash compactor ... and they almost die in there. But again, Vader gave clear instructions that the crew was to escape.

Your second rebuttal?

Look, if you (or your kids?) don't see the difference between the gizmos in "Rebels" and the X-Wing's ability to snap its S-foils into attack position? Then I am SO glad I work in advertising! You are the kind of person I love! <3

Your third rebuttal?

Your sense of humor needs work... The joke was that Ezra survived a fall, which - to me - was a "con."

Yeah, I'm NOT a fan of the walking cliche that is Ezra...

Orphaned? Check.

Uses silly kid-weapon like a blaster slingshot? Check.

Has a crush on another female character? Check.

Always escaping through tight spaces? Check.

Has a destiny to become some huge awesomeness? Check.

Is super-annoying? Check.

I could go on and on...

Your fourth rebuttal?

It's not as important to know how Han and Chewie got together as it is to know how Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, and the two droids get together. And THAT is pretty much the whole story of the first Star Wars film - how this motley crew becomes the force that brings balance back to the universe. Each character fits a distinct Jungian archetype, with Luke as the "small-town boy who makes good" and "boy facing his father without becoming his father" and "man with a destiny" as the central crux to the overall saga.

Han and Chewie's history is awesome. And I do like the work done by Daley and Crispin. But the Han and Chewie connection is simply "best pals who've shared a lot of adventures together." That's good enough.

But the characters on "Rebels?" How in the name of Hades did a Jedi Padawan (now, practically a Knight) hook up with a Twi'lek pilot, a female Mandalorian artist/warrior, a big purple cat-thing, an unhinged Astromech, and end up with a freighter(?) that has some sort of fighter-shuttle stuck in back? And what have they been up to before we're introduced to Ezra? If they'd been on Lothal long, Ezra would have run into them sooner... So where have they been? Who ARE these people?

So far, it seems they just like to snark at one another and laugh at how insanely incompetent Imperial training must be...

Your fifth rebuttal?

To a point? Okay, sure.

But it is Star Wars filtered through some sort of G-rated "kiddiefied" lens, sucking the life out of anything that doesn't resemble blaster bolts or flying space junk (that's full of toy-friendly gimmicks, that is).

Forget complex characterization. Forget dense storylines.

Just give us some cardboard cut-outs, put some "kewl" gizmos in their hands, let 'em fly a spaceship around ... uh, one planet, and call it Star Wars. (And we'll just ape ALL of Williams' score to make it seem even more legit...)

Look, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. If you like "Rebels?" Fine.

But for some, most, none(???) of you to not see this show's plethora of problems? At least from this first season? C'mon now.

I'm enjoying the show a lot. If there are 'problems', I don't really mind them. I just enjoy watching the show and seeing Star Wars adventures each week.

It's the first season, guys. Even the best shows had their ups and downs in season 1.

*shrugs*

No I don't. Honestly, I don't see any problems large enough to impede my enjoyment of the show. It's a much stronger first season that Clone Wars was, the stories are entertaining and I'm interested to see where they go with this. Is it the best series ever? Naw - but it's not terrible either.

Sturn, I too can play this game.

Cons:

- Four individuals manage to break into an Imperial fortification, destroy an entire TIE fighter squadron, use their Scarlet Witch-like hex powers to make EVERY SINGLE stormtrooper miss them with blaster fire, steal a cruiser, sneak on board a Star Destroyer, evade all of the personnel within said Star Destroyer, and then escape the Star Destroyer. Yeah... (Recall Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewie barely escaped from the Death Star, lost one of their own, and then found out it was all staged so they COULD escape...)

A single snubfighter destroys the most massive battle station in the galaxy. Twice. Care Bears take down an elite armored fighting force. Heroes cornered in a hallway with little cover have a conversation without getting hit by the team of Stormtroopers blasting away at them.

- Lightsaber battle that looked more like a toy commercial - "Wheel-spinning, double-bladed action! Shoot stun blasts then switch to the slashing! It's a blaster AND a lightsaber! Plus, assemble your own lightsaber! Just attach these disguised components to fool your enemies! It's so fun, kids! Buy! Buy! Buy!"

Toys being a large part of Star Wars is a surprise to you? Snubfighters with wings that pop open!

- Ezra didn't die from the fall.

Stressing the viewer with the thought a hero may have fallen? Indy didn't fall off the cliff. Young Kirk didn't fall off the cliff. Strider didn't fall off the cliff. Gandalf didn't die from the fall into the chasm of death with a demon wrapped around him. In Star Wars? R2D2 didn't die from the laser cannon blast. Leia didn't die when shot by the Stormtrooper. Luke didn't die from the fall (and he had an arm cut off to boot!). Han didn't die when frozen in carbonite. You are bashing Rebels for using one of the most used gimmics in story telling history.

- A full season has passed and we still have no idea how any of these people got together. Other than Ezra, our entrypoint character. *sigh*

Without EU, when did we finally get to know how Han and Chewie got together?

God, this show sucks.

Looks like its got Star Wars written all over it.

Your first rebuttal?

Okay, so Ewoks take on an elite fighting force? Sure, with surprise on their side and a knowledge of the forest ... oh, AND a bunch of highly-trained Rebel commandos. Plus, we see some of them die in the skirmish.

Snubfighters take down the Death Stars? Sure, but look at the squadrons that initially attack the first Death Star and then look at how many ships return (three!)... Plus, the son of the "chosen one" - using the Force - is the one who takes it down and he still loses his Astromech. The second Death Star battle saw a ton of casualties. And it took five or more fighters to enter the interior to take it down. Two ultimately cause the chain reaction, and one of those was one of the survivors of the first Death Star attack - a veteran ace pilot.

Characters bantering about in a hallway with gunfire heading toward them? Sure, just like in pretty much every movie and television show known to man. I have no problem with this, especially if the characters are using cover. But note our heroes in the movie you're mentioning have to create an escape route that leads them to a trash compactor ... and they almost die in there. But again, Vader gave clear instructions that the crew was to escape.

Your second rebuttal?

Look, if you (or your kids?) don't see the difference between the gizmos in "Rebels" and the X-Wing's ability to snap its S-foils into attack position? Then I am SO glad I work in advertising! You are the kind of person I love! <3

Your third rebuttal?

Your sense of humor needs work... The joke was that Ezra survived a fall, which - to me - was a "con."

Yeah, I'm NOT a fan of the walking cliche that is Ezra...

Orphaned? Check.

Uses silly kid-weapon like a blaster slingshot? Check.

Has a crush on another female character? Check.

Always escaping through tight spaces? Check.

Has a destiny to become some huge awesomeness? Check.

Is super-annoying? Check.

I could go on and on...

Your fourth rebuttal?

It's not as important to know how Han and Chewie got together as it is to know how Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, and the two droids get together. And THAT is pretty much the whole story of the first Star Wars film - how this motley crew becomes the force that brings balance back to the universe. Each character fits a distinct Jungian archetype, with Luke as the "small-town boy who makes good" and "boy facing his father without becoming his father" and "man with a destiny" as the central crux to the overall saga.

Han and Chewie's history is awesome. And I do like the work done by Daley and Crispin. But the Han and Chewie connection is simply "best pals who've shared a lot of adventures together." That's good enough.

But the characters on "Rebels?" How in the name of Hades did a Jedi Padawan (now, practically a Knight) hook up with a Twi'lek pilot, a female Mandalorian artist/warrior, a big purple cat-thing, an unhinged Astromech, and end up with a freighter(?) that has some sort of fighter-shuttle stuck in back? And what have they been up to before we're introduced to Ezra? If they'd been on Lothal long, Ezra would have run into them sooner... So where have they been? Who ARE these people?

So far, it seems they just like to snark at one another and laugh at how insanely incompetent Imperial training must be...

Your fifth rebuttal?

To a point? Okay, sure.

But it is Star Wars filtered through some sort of G-rated "kiddiefied" lens, sucking the life out of anything that doesn't resemble blaster bolts or flying space junk (that's full of toy-friendly gimmicks, that is).

Forget complex characterization. Forget dense storylines.

Just give us some cardboard cut-outs, put some "kewl" gizmos in their hands, let 'em fly a spaceship around ... uh, one planet, and call it Star Wars. (And we'll just ape ALL of Williams' score to make it seem even more legit...)

Well, yes...it is a show for kids.

You have to enjoy it for what it is or choose not to watch it. Hopefully the movies will be a bit more adult oriented, but I am enjoying the light hearted action and world building. I couldn't get far into the Clone Wars just on the dialog and voice acting, but that's just me.

Look, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. If you like "Rebels?" Fine.

But for some, most, none(???) of you to see this show's plethora of problems? At least from this first season? C'mon now.

This has got to be the funniest BS I have seen on this thread.

You have with-out a doubt been trying to rain on peoples parades and the only thing you are doing is proving just how much TCW and Rebels are a like at this stage in the game. Both are shows made for kids and are full to things turned into Toys.

What I find really sad is that you want to compare an Entire Series to the First Season of a show. To shows set in the same universe, but with very different stories. Which is great and they are not trying to make TCW 2. This is something different and people like it.

As I see it, all your hammering of Rebels and the Self Righteous Pedestal you are standing on talking about TCW. Really just shows me and probably others how little you really regard TCW and just want to hate on it because its not what you wanted.

But the characters on "Rebels?" How in the name of Hades did a Jedi Padawan (now, practically a Knight) hook up with a Twi'lek pilot, a female Mandalorian artist/warrior, a big purple cat-thing, an unhinged Astromech, and end up with a freighter(?) that has some sort of fighter-shuttle stuck in back? And what have they been up to before we're introduced to Ezra? If they'd been on Lothal long, Ezra would have run into them sooner... So where have they been? Who ARE these people?

Why don't we wait till Season 2 comes out and they give us the details just like we have been promised. If you can't handle the wait then don't watch the show.

Sturn, I too can play this game.

Cons:

- Four individuals manage to break into an Imperial fortification, destroy an entire TIE fighter squadron, use their Scarlet Witch-like hex powers to make EVERY SINGLE stormtrooper miss them with blaster fire, steal a cruiser, sneak on board a Star Destroyer, evade all of the personnel within said Star Destroyer, and then escape the Star Destroyer. Yeah... (Recall Luke, Han, Leia, and Chewie barely escaped from the Death Star, lost one of their own, and then found out it was all staged so they COULD escape...)

A single snubfighter destroys the most massive battle station in the galaxy. Twice. Care Bears take down an elite armored fighting force. Heroes cornered in a hallway with little cover have a conversation without getting hit by the team of Stormtroopers blasting away at them.

- Lightsaber battle that looked more like a toy commercial - "Wheel-spinning, double-bladed action! Shoot stun blasts then switch to the slashing! It's a blaster AND a lightsaber! Plus, assemble your own lightsaber! Just attach these disguised components to fool your enemies! It's so fun, kids! Buy! Buy! Buy!"

Toys being a large part of Star Wars is a surprise to you? Snubfighters with wings that pop open!

- Ezra didn't die from the fall.

Stressing the viewer with the thought a hero may have fallen? Indy didn't fall off the cliff. Young Kirk didn't fall off the cliff. Strider didn't fall off the cliff. Gandalf didn't die from the fall into the chasm of death with a demon wrapped around him. In Star Wars? R2D2 didn't die from the laser cannon blast. Leia didn't die when shot by the Stormtrooper. Luke didn't die from the fall (and he had an arm cut off to boot!). Han didn't die when frozen in carbonite. You are bashing Rebels for using one of the most used gimmics in story telling history.

- A full season has passed and we still have no idea how any of these people got together. Other than Ezra, our entrypoint character. *sigh*

Without EU, when did we finally get to know how Han and Chewie got together?

God, this show sucks.

Looks like its got Star Wars written all over it.

Your first rebuttal?

Okay, so Ewoks take on an elite fighting force? Sure, with surprise on their side and a knowledge of the forest ... oh, AND a bunch of highly-trained Rebel commandos. Plus, we see some of them die in the skirmish.

Snubfighters take down the Death Stars? Sure, but look at the squadrons that initially attack the first Death Star and then look at how many ships return (three!)... Plus, the son of the "chosen one" - using the Force - is the one who takes it down and he still loses his Astromech. The second Death Star battle saw a ton of casualties. And it took five or more fighters to enter the interior to take it down. Two ultimately cause the chain reaction, and one of those was one of the survivors of the first Death Star attack - a veteran ace pilot.

Characters bantering about in a hallway with gunfire heading toward them? Sure, just like in pretty much every movie and television show known to man. I have no problem with this, especially if the characters are using cover. But note our heroes in the movie you're mentioning have to create an escape route that leads them to a trash compactor ... and they almost die in there. But again, Vader gave clear instructions that the crew was to escape.

Your second rebuttal?

Look, if you (or your kids?) don't see the difference between the gizmos in "Rebels" and the X-Wing's ability to snap its S-foils into attack position? Then I am SO glad I work in advertising! You are the kind of person I love! <3

Your third rebuttal?

Your sense of humor needs work... The joke was that Ezra survived a fall, which - to me - was a "con."

Yeah, I'm NOT a fan of the walking cliche that is Ezra...

Orphaned? Check.

Uses silly kid-weapon like a blaster slingshot? Check.

Has a crush on another female character? Check.

Always escaping through tight spaces? Check.

Has a destiny to become some huge awesomeness? Check.

Is super-annoying? Check.

I could go on and on...

Your fourth rebuttal?

It's not as important to know how Han and Chewie got together as it is to know how Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, and the two droids get together. And THAT is pretty much the whole story of the first Star Wars film - how this motley crew becomes the force that brings balance back to the universe. Each character fits a distinct Jungian archetype, with Luke as the "small-town boy who makes good" and "boy facing his father without becoming his father" and "man with a destiny" as the central crux to the overall saga.

Han and Chewie's history is awesome. And I do like the work done by Daley and Crispin. But the Han and Chewie connection is simply "best pals who've shared a lot of adventures together." That's good enough.

But the characters on "Rebels?" How in the name of Hades did a Jedi Padawan (now, practically a Knight) hook up with a Twi'lek pilot, a female Mandalorian artist/warrior, a big purple cat-thing, an unhinged Astromech, and end up with a freighter(?) that has some sort of fighter-shuttle stuck in back? And what have they been up to before we're introduced to Ezra? If they'd been on Lothal long, Ezra would have run into them sooner... So where have they been? Who ARE these people?

So far, it seems they just like to snark at one another and laugh at how insanely incompetent Imperial training must be...

Your fifth rebuttal?

To a point? Okay, sure.

But it is Star Wars filtered through some sort of G-rated "kiddiefied" lens, sucking the life out of anything that doesn't resemble blaster bolts or flying space junk (that's full of toy-friendly gimmicks, that is).

Forget complex characterization. Forget dense storylines.

Just give us some cardboard cut-outs, put some "kewl" gizmos in their hands, let 'em fly a spaceship around ... uh, one planet, and call it Star Wars. (And we'll just ape ALL of Williams' score to make it seem even more legit...)

The TL,DR Translation....I hate the show and anyone else who doesn't agree with me is an idiot.

Hey guys, probably best to just treat Harlock999 as the troll that it is and ignore it. Much like ErikB/Slypheed and evileeyore, it'll go away once it realizes nobody's going to dance to its tune.

Just looking at his posts, they're nothing but flame bait without a single constructive element.

Again, just ignore it and it'll eventually slither back under its rock.

As for the season finale itself...

Aside from the "Fulcrum = Ahsoka," I really liked this. In hindsight, the entire first season was pretty much building to this moment, and we see the first inklings of these desperate Rebel cells starting to come together into a unified hold. But given Greg Weisman's involvement and his knack for doing just that sort of thing, I can't say that I'm too surprised at the various callbacks in the finale to prior events in the season.

It was nice to see Kanan get over his "lack of confidence" issues that had been plaguing him and demonstrate that the Inquisitor wasn't quite as badass as he thought. Loved seeing him put Ezra's blaster-saber hilt to excellent use, turning one of the Inquisitor's own ploys (unusual weapon to put a foe off-balance) against him.

I did get a chuckle out of the call-back to "Art Attack" with the troopers recognizing Sabine as "the artist" as well as the "not again!" upon seeing the various explosives applied to the TIE panels. Plus the callback to the stolen TIE fighter (I'd figured that Ezra and Zeb would stash it rather than crash it) as well as Sabine using as a one big canvas; apparently Ezra had taken her to it prior to the opening of "Path of the Jedi" and thus was the reason why Ezra was late for his training session with Kanan.

Regarding Ahsoka... frankly, I think it would have been better to either use a new character or someone that wasn't also a "former Jedi-in-hiding." We've already got Kanan to fill that niche in the show's roster, and while I've not been a fan of Ahsoka in general, having her appear and pretty much say "Hi, I'm Fulcrum!" felt like it was more of a tacked-on anti-climax after what had been an excellent episode. I'm sure it wasn't the intent, but it felt to be about as much of a gimmick as bringing the long-dead Darth Maul back was. Having Fulcrum be someone else and then having Bail deliver that last bit about Kanan's message being to important to let it end so darkly would have worked better, at least for me. Or maybe I'm just leery of Ahsoka overshadowing the main cast. Though I guess if there's any character suited to being a sacrificial lion to demonstrate just how much of a threat Vader is to the younger audience members, she's the best candidate.

About Kanan and Hera... yeah, it's a kid's show, so you're not going to see anything to serious, especially on a Disney network, which is notorious for "contractual purity" amongst it's teen stars of their various live-action shows. We've already seen hints that Kanan and Hera are something of an item, and I think using a subtle touch works for their relationship as it currently stands; they're more than friends but their not romantic partners, given they're in the midst of a small-scale war. And it was also another callback to the intro shorts to have Chopper interrupt them just as things might get a tad steamier than a hug.

With the Inquisitor... he's served his purpose in terms of the plot. He was a lesser villain for the heroes to defeat, and with such a short season it probably would have been unrealistic to have Ezra (who just a few episodes prior mentioned he's not much of a swordsman) be the one to take Inqy down. Still, was cool to see that it was Ezra's unconventional lightsaber that played a definite roll in taking the Inquisitor down. And with Vader on Lothal, again the Inquisitor as the major threat is redundant. I'd had a few talks with friends about how a more seasoned Jedi, one that's an accomplished duelist, would circumvent the Inquisitor's cheat-saber, and Kanan used one of the exact methods we'd discussed (albeit he used two 'sabers where most of the Jedi we'd brought only needed one to do the job).

My only real complaints with the show during the course of the season were how belligerent Zeb could be towards Ezra (especially early on) and wondering why Chopper didn't get a memory-wipe after proving to be so unrelentingly psychotic. But the Ezra/Zeb dynamic has, if not necessarily improved as at least stabilized enough so that they're not at the other's throat. And Chopper has certainly made himself very useful in the past couple episodes, so maybe in the second season he'll have mellowed out a bit.

Awww! The SWRPG boards went all 'shipping and stuff. Cute.

But it is Star Wars filtered through some sort of G-rated "kiddiefied" lens, sucking the life out of anything that doesn't resemble blaster bolts or flying space junk (that's full of toy-friendly gimmicks, that is).

Forget complex characterization. Forget dense storylines.

Just give us some cardboard cut-outs, put some "kewl" gizmos in their hands, let 'em fly a spaceship around ... uh, one planet, and call it Star Wars. (And we'll just ape ALL of Williams' score to make it seem even more legit...)

I think you're describing any star wars property to date there... well minus the one planet thing. Cripes I think I watched a cardboard cut out pretend to be a young vader in 2 straight movies. (what was the joke in Clerks 2? "I'm Manikin Skywalker and my crappy acting is ruining 2 trilogies!"?)

I've had squads of stormtroopers in game miss every shot too (seriously my friends walked though the Beginner Box adventure without taking a hit. Also Plot Armor man, Plot Armor)

For the rest, I'll quote myself from a facebook post earlier today:

"Just for the record, I think Star Wars: Rebels is -THE- best Star wars related property to come out since The Empire Strikes Back.

Though it has a few dumb moments (brainless stormtroopers, revealing Kanan's secret in way stupid fashion, Aresko and Grint [the SW versions of Commendant Klink and Sgt Schultz]). It makes up for it in amazing fashion. (Tarkin and The Inquisitor's disposal of Klink and Schultz, The Inquisitor, a lightsaber battle possibly more epic then Qui-gon and Obi-wan v Maul, and THE most badass line ever uttered by a Jedi: "There is something stronger than fear, The Force. Now let me show you how powerful it is.")

For what is occasionally a dumb kids show, I've enjoyed it immensely so far, and can't wait for season 2. While, like most cartoons it is aimed at kids, enough of the wonder that is Star Wars shines through and all in all it feels more epic in scope, and better in writing then any of the prequels.

I'll sift through them one more time and put together a short list of episodes to watch, as not all four and a half hours are necessary to follow the plot, and maybe rewrite this when my thoughts are more in order, but my final thought for this is: If Disney can do this good of a job on a 22 minute toy ad, what's coming in December should be amazing!"

I wish Fulcrum's fleet had some more variety in it but that's a minor detail. I know CR-90s are really common craft at this point but it would have been nice to maybe see a couple of the smaller Republic navy ship classes or even a Corona Armed Frigate or two. I'm pretty sure the Corona Armed class will be appearing in season two because Hondo is appearing and in TCW his ship was a Corona Armed Frigate though I suppose he could be using a new ship now.

To be fair, the CR-90 was a commonly used ship in the Clone Wars, often used by members of the Senate as consular vessels. It makes perfect sense that they'd be readily available for use by Senator-sponsored Rebel units, where as formal Republic Navy vessels would likely be stored by the Imperial Navy, rather than sold off or dumped, and so would be harder to acquire.

Also, if you look closely, not all of those ships are CR-90s. At least one of them is a Pelta-class frigate, used by the Republic Navy during the Clone Wars.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pelta-class_frigate

Looks similar to the CR-90, but it is different.

How did I miss that? And yeah Peltas actually would make sense. They were mainly used as transports, cargo frigates, and medical ships so some being repurposed for civilian use would make sense. They are more heavily armed then CR90s but they are also much larger so its not impossible to believe they would be civilian legal ships. (If I'm right about converting the armaments it would come out to 12 light turbos and 18 light lasers though we'll only know if I'm right if FFG ever includes them in the system.)

I did a freeze frame of the ships in hyperspace after they escaped....they're all CR90's