[SPOILERS]: Star Wars: Rebels - Thoughts?

By GM Hooly, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

No, I wasn't necessarily expecting splattered bits of inquisitor everywhere, but an ending like that is often a "Nobody could have survived that!" moment. Not that I'm saying they will or anything, but the door is very open for him coming back in the future.

I think we can consider Darth Maul's return as an example of what could happen.

Then the door is open for the emperor too and for Mace Windu...

No, I wasn't necessarily expecting splattered bits of inquisitor everywhere, but an ending like that is often a "Nobody could have survived that!" moment. Not that I'm saying they will or anything, but the door is very open for him coming back in the future.

Nobody could have survived the Maul cut either, but they managed to pull it off. I have a feeling they'll be more careful about that in the future, from what I understand, George felt that Maul was a greatly underused plot vehicle and he regretted making it so final. So Dave Filoni probably took that to heart...never annihilate a useful character, always leave some room for resurrection.

I can't say I like that necessarily, because it cheapens heroic victory and opens the door to any villain's resurrection (edit: ninja'd!) , but I have to admit I thought the Maul arcs were some of the best of TCW. So if they can maintain that integrity...more power to them.

As for Ahsoka, I'm glad she's Fulcrum. I never want her to see Darth Vader though, I think that would be either cheesy, or far too dark.

Then the door is open for the emperor too and for Mace Windu...

That is very true and begs to question how to handle such developments. Oh wait, its no longer Cannon, but the Emperor did comeback in the EU/ Legends.

On a side note, I think that they will be a lot more responsible in handling it than what was done in the past. This property is important to them and the steps they are taking with the handling of Cannon is something to be considered.

That said, I would not be surprised to see the Inquisitor return, but I as of right now I rather they leave his death where it is for now.

Edited by TakeshiMasaki

Don't forget Boba's resurrection!

Then the door is open for the emperor too and for Mace Windu...

That is very true and begs to question how to handle such developments. Oh wait, its no longer Cannon, but the Emperor did comeback in the EU/ Legends.

Yep! I keep him right here, in between my oil pan and my colon!

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Pictured: Empatojayos Brand from Dark Empire 2

I never want her to see Darth Vader though, I think that would be either cheesy, or far too dark.

Yes. You put what I said in two paragraphs into one line. Either it would water down the emotion of the original characters and relationship, or it would be horrifically dark.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong though. I think with both in the series as major opposing leads, it would be hard not to have them meet. In which case I could see Vader striking down Ahsoka. Which would be truly horrible.

Besides some minor plot issues, like stealing a ship and the remaining stormtroopers not reporting it (but we all know by now that nothing good come from stoormtropers), it was an excellent episode.

My guess is they did report the stolen transport after they picked themselves up after "The Artist's" bombs did their damage....loved the nod to the Art Attack short at the beggining of the episode.

I never want her to see Darth Vader though, I think that would be either cheesy, or far too dark.

Yes. You put what I said in two paragraphs into one line. Either it would water down the emotion of the original characters and relationship, or it would be horrifically dark.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong though. I think with both in the series as major opposing leads, it would be hard not to have them meet. In which case I could see Vader striking down Ahsoka. Which would be truly horrible.

Would they even recognize each other though? I mean, Vader is Vader now, so yeah, and Ahsoka looks very different, even the pattern of her facial markings and head-tails is quite different.

While they might sense each other, would they recognize it as such? Even after they actually met Vader would recognize Ahsoka long before she recognized him.

EDIT: Also, anyone else notice that they also changed the shape of her face to better match Ashely Eckstein? I'm not saying I think they want to go live action... but I'm not saying they don't either...

Edited by Ghostofman

BTW, about Ahsoka, when it was still speculative, people put a lot of emphasis on this symbol on a crate:

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They were trying to tie the shape to her tattoos or jewelry. I think they all missed the mark, here is my oh-so-awesome insight :)

The symbol is a stylized Togruta head. It's not a reference to her tattoos or jewelry, its the head-tails and montrals of a Togruta.

There, I await your praises... :P

Edited by whafrog

While I can't say you are wrong, it does though, look a lot like her facial tattoo.

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Ah, the new look is closer (I won't get to see the episode until iTunes has it next week), so I see what you mean, but still, the top of the tattoo is cut off. I stand by my pontification :)

Ah, the new look is closer (I won't get to see the episode until iTunes has it next week), so I see what you mean, but still, the top of the tattoo is cut off. I stand by my pontification :)

ITunes should have it today.... At least that's where I got one although I do have the Season subscription and in the US, so don't know if that makes a difference for you or not.... :)

Yeah, Canada is always a week later...

BTW is she working with Lux?

Edited by whafrog

BTW, about Ahsoka, when it was still speculative, people put a lot of emphasis on this symbol on a crate:

Fulcrum-Crate.jpg

They were trying to tie the shape to her tattoos or jewelry. I think they all missed the mark, here is my oh-so-awesome insight :)

The symbol is a stylized Togruta head. It's not a reference to her tattoos or jewelry, its the head-tails and montrals of a Togruta.

There, I await your praises... :P

Fulcrum

noun, plural fulcrums, fulcra

[foo l-kruh, fuhl-]

1.

the support, or point of rest, on which a lever turns in moving a body.

Or, the symbol is that of, you know.. a fulcrum.

Innocuous enough that most would ignore or disregard, but for those familiar to understand the meaning.

Seriously, don't look too deeply into it.

If anyone is ripe for killing off in Rebels I would say Ahsoka would be it.

I also find it interesting that Ezra is referred to and refers to himself as a Jedi. It just goes to show it really is just a description more than anything related to skill level.

How are the storm troopers going to report the stolen transport?

There is no long range communications on Lothal after the Empire blew up the tower.

So they would need to send a courier droid...

Oh wait they don't have a transport to send a courier droid since they stole the transport and blew up all the TIEs

So they would have to wait until another Imperial ship enters the system with a shuttle and comes down to the planet.

Also if you hadn't noticed the entire thing was a trap to catch the rebels which did not go as planned...

So there is no plothole.

On a side note, I think that they will be a lot more responsible in handling it than what was done in the past. This property is important to them and the steps they are taking with the handling of Cannon is something to be considered.

Dave Filoni has been the savior of Star Wars canon. If you go back and watch the bonus material from The Clone Wars, it becomes apparent (in my opinion, at least) that he and his team were doing as much as they could to rescue things from George's ideas, especially when they had to go along with them.

Like the time they had to bring in Lucas's daughter to write a few episodes, per his request.

On a side note, I think that they will be a lot more responsible in handling it than what was done in the past. This property is important to them and the steps they are taking with the handling of Cannon is something to be considered.

Dave Filoni has been the savior of Star Wars canon. If you go back and watch the bonus material from The Clone Wars, it becomes apparent (in my opinion, at least) that he and his team were doing as much as they could to rescue things from George's ideas, especially when they had to go along with them.

Like the time they had to bring in Lucas's daughter to write a few episodes, per his request.

Seriously? :D Which episodes were those? I actually have TCW seasons 1-5 on Blu-ray (which looks jaw-droppingly amazing, btw. The difference between that and when I first saw it online is staggering) but I haven't re-watched everything yet and I haven't listened to any of the extras so I know next to nothing about the background to these.

Edited by knasserII

She wrote some of the political episodes, but also the witches and some Maul episodes. You can find her writing credits here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0337964/

Most of them were pretty good IMHO, some of the best in the series. Not sure why people thought it was a problem.

Edit: looks like she's also involved in Rebels somehow.

Edited by whafrog

It's around the introduction of the Night Sisters, the first time, when his daughter wrote. Check out that bonus material.

Also, for a keen example of Dave visibly going "uuuuhhh... yeah, George, we'll do that" watch the bonus materials relating to the Zillo Beast episodes. Also, the flamethrowers in season 1.

I need a blu-ray player first, then I'll definitely pick up the complete series in that format!

TL;DR Dave Filoni is love, Dave Filoni is life.

Edited by invictus_1693

I don't have the bonus materials. But what does that have to do with Katie Lucas being a problem?

Probably less her being a problem, and more her being the boss's daughter with the kings ear and skeleton key to the castle.

Sounds like working with George was always a little tricky. I read an article a while back where a former LucasArts employee said part of why the company was unprofitable toward the end was because the project managers preferred to just say "yes" instead of trying to figure out how to talk George out of a bad idea.

I have been watching these. And it is obvious some things I find rather annoying. Ezra's shooty lightsaber. Is almost as bad as the inquisitors spinning blades. Most of the things I don't like are nitpicky things that they do to make things "cool" or more dramatic. Fine if you are an 8-12 year old, and something you have to put up with as an adult.

The ending seems rather rushed "Hi I am Bail Orgnana" "Hi I am Asoska" "Ha ha, you were part of a rebel cell. Now you are not" 'Don't mind we totally blew everyones cover because you wanted to disobey orders to save Kannan"

Still got a chuckle "The artist is back!"

I wish Fulcrum's fleet had some more variety in it but that's a minor detail. I know CR-90s are really common craft at this point but it would have been nice to maybe see a couple of the smaller Republic navy ship classes or even a Corona Armed Frigate or two. I'm pretty sure the Corona Armed class will be appearing in season two because Hondo is appearing and in TCW his ship was a Corona Armed Frigate though I suppose he could be using a new ship now.