and then you have 3 or 4 squads of stromtroopers blasting away, yet Kanan comes out from behind cover and has no trouble dodging the fire while he strikes his pose and brings out his lightsaber for everyone to see and be in awe.

To be fair, I read that as he could do that because he was a Jedi.

That said, it seems strange how some characters dive behind cover (which is great) while others wade through firefights like they weren't being shot at (which is not).

TCW is full of that. The Clones almost never take proper cover. I think it's an in-joke.

Or like in Edge of the empire taking cover and wearing good armor results in the same number of setback die. So the result is the same.

Same amount of setback, but not necessarily the same amount of soak. That partial blast door may not provide more defense than your armor, but if it gets hit, then the shot has to get through its soak to get to you...

ummm there is no mechanic for that. as the set back failure indicate the blast door being hit. A success means they hit you and not the blast door. You take no damage if they hit the blast door. You take full damage minus your personal soak if they hit you.

Well if you were up against an AT-ST you'd still have to roll 21 uncancelled sucesses to get the crit.

I think they could be some variant on the Disruptors in the book, though. Essentially a "Heavy Disruptor", the next thing up from the rifle version.

and then you have 3 or 4 squads of stromtroopers blasting away, yet Kanan comes out from behind cover and has no trouble dodging the fire while he strikes his pose and brings out his lightsaber for everyone to see and be in awe.

To be fair, I read that as he could do that because he was a Jedi.

That said, it seems strange how some characters dive behind cover (which is great) while others wade through firefights like they weren't being shot at (which is not).

I like the cartoon, but incompetent stormtroopers is the main thing that makes me roll my eyes. It makes me think that somewhere the Empire has a room where they lock away all the averagely competent people. I'm picturing an officer at their academy as cadet after cadet lines up at the rifle range:

"You, awful shot - stormtrooper."

"You, also awful shot - stormtrooper"

"You, single-handedly fight twelve wookies and have goatee, report to HQ and receive a name."

"You, holding your blaster the wrong way round, stormtrooper."

"You, um, reasonable shot but not insanely brilliant... not, ah, quite sure where to place you... *blam* That's for confusing me, next..."

Is it too much to say that I am in Love w/ the voice actress of Sabine?? SHE'S HOT!!

Bit too teenage for my tastes, but if we're confessing things, the face design for Hera I actually do think is very sexy. I wonder if they modelled it on anyone particular. Wonderfully expressive.

and then you have 3 or 4 squads of stromtroopers blasting away, yet Kanan comes out from behind cover and has no trouble dodging the fire while he strikes his pose and brings out his lightsaber for everyone to see and be in awe.

To be fair, I read that as he could do that because he was a Jedi.

That said, it seems strange how some characters dive behind cover (which is great) while others wade through firefights like they weren't being shot at (which is not).

TCW is full of that. The Clones almost never take proper cover. I think it's an in-joke.

the clones know armor and cover doesn't stack, dummy!

Well, it finally showed up on iTunes...woohoo! Much better than I expected. A few shortcuts taken in the story, but that's the usual fare. Loved the dark humour, it bodes well for the future. "First Jedi you've seen, sir?"...*kick*

I have to admit, all the talk of "going back to the look of E4" wasn't something I was looking forward to. I prefer the idea of an expanding SW universe, not a contracting one. However, I also have to admit that the first scene from inside the star destroyer with the marching stormtroopers gave me an unexpected thrill. They really pulled it off in way that hit home. Without analyzing too much, I think it conveys what a visual genius Lucas was...there's something about that stark and orderly gray and white that tells you exactly where you are.

I watched the first two episodes. Sadly it is nothing for me. As years pas I am aware that for me it is more and more difficult to digest histories of super heroes, which is mainly what we have here.

Approaching, infiltrating and fleeing from a Star Destroyer with no difficulties with a non military starship.

Bashing tons of stormtroopers (which look more like unskilled retards than normal humans), even using bare fists. The guy who designed the stormtrooper armour shall be still laughing somewhere in the galaxy.

Shooting down scores of TIE fighters. Did TIE fighters ever pose a threat to anyone?

Anyone can slice any computer system, open a secured door or similar using a paper clip. I imagine this is because in the SW universe everything goes under Windows NT may be?

All in all I am not sure if it is a good or a bad show, it is packed with action and the episodes are short, but it is not of my taste. I need something elaborated.

I see folks kavitching about the lack of guards on the ships the crew of the Ghost was infiltrating...

Did you guys miss that the first ship was a trap , and it was remarked upon there being NO guards at all by the characters? It was meant to lull the heroes into a false sense of security, which would have worked had Ezra not had an attack of conscience (thanks to Hera's prodding) and running in to warn them. It was also the transport that Sabine set the explosive charges to destroy, which again didn't have any guards around as a deliberate means of entrapping the heroes.

Hera also mentioned fairly early on that the Ghost would be able to slip back to Lothal without showing on the Imps' radar (mentioned in conversation with Ezra when he remarks upon the craziness of the idea so soon after fleeing the planet), and they didn't exactly have to go that far into the Star Destroyer to find Ezra, who pretty much dropped in on them not long after they disembarked from the ship? And even then, the Imps already knew that the Ghost had gotten aboard, with Agent Kallus ordering troops to the lower decks before the heroes had fully stepped off the ship. So given the Ghost's ability to be, well, a ghost in regards to Imperial sensors, being able to get aboard the ISD undetected isn't that much of an ass-pull.

and then you have 3 or 4 squads of stromtroopers blasting away, yet Kanan comes out from behind cover and has no trouble dodging the fire while he strikes his pose and brings out his lightsaber for everyone to see and be in awe.

To be fair, I read that as he could do that because he was a Jedi.

That said, it seems strange how some characters dive behind cover (which is great) while others wade through firefights like they weren't being shot at (which is not).

TCW is full of that. The Clones almost never take proper cover. I think it's an in-joke.

Or like in Edge of the empire taking cover and wearing good armor results in the same number of setback die. So the result is the same.

Same amount of setback, but not necessarily the same amount of soak. That partial blast door may not provide more defense than your armor, but if it gets hit, then the shot has to get through its soak to get to you...

no that is not how the rules work.

Just watched the first episode and liked it. However, it deed feel a bit all over the place at times.

Just watched the first episode and liked it. However, it deed feel a bit all over the place at times.

The next episode is much more consistent.

I see folks kavitching about the lack of guards on the ships the crew of the Ghost was infiltrating...

Did you guys miss that the first ship was a trap , and it was remarked upon there being NO guards at all by the characters? It was meant to lull the heroes into a false sense of security, which would have worked had Ezra not had an attack of conscience (thanks to Hera's prodding) and running in to warn them. It was also the transport that Sabine set the explosive charges to destroy, which again didn't have any guards around as a deliberate means of entrapping the heroes.

Hera also mentioned fairly early on that the Ghost would be able to slip back to Lothal without showing on the Imps' radar (mentioned in conversation with Ezra when he remarks upon the craziness of the idea so soon after fleeing the planet), and they didn't exactly have to go that far into the Star Destroyer to find Ezra, who pretty much dropped in on them not long after they disembarked from the ship? And even then, the Imps already knew that the Ghost had gotten aboard, with Agent Kallus ordering troops to the lower decks before the heroes had fully stepped off the ship. So given the Ghost's ability to be, well, a ghost in regards to Imperial sensors, being able to get aboard the ISD undetected isn't that much of an ass-pull.

Just to comment on that point of the story. It is difficult for me to swallow that that trap is the best the Empire could design to capture some Rebels. Besides deploying 6 stormtroopers inside a cell (which is very pathetic taking into account the record of successes the stormtroopers have), they could have used other methods in parallel like:

-Flooding the ship with gas.

-Using ion cannons from the star destroyer to disable both ships so the rebels cannot flee.

-Destroying the Ghost (which was attached to the cargo ship) with Turbo laser fire, trapping in that way the rebels inside a cargo ship which, all of a sudden, has the engines disabled by technicians aboard the Star Destroyer.

-Any combination of the above or any other ideas.

Of course, with some of the above ideas (or any more effective ideas a writer may have) there won't be a story for the heroes and this we don't want neither. To fit my taste I would like something more dramatic, more tough for the heroes. My point is that the story has no drama. The heroes walk in, then out, no problems, no worries the bad guys suck and are kicked repeated times. End of the episode.

SImple versions: Good guys, always wins

Extended version: They catch the old "child story" essence feeling from old movies where bad guys shoot to the clouds and good guys always survive (only happen bad things with plot evildoers like Vader). Not only the hair assembles toys from 80's, also remember series from 80's like A-Team.

By the way, I have enough of absolute clever or intelligent bad guys that always capture good guys partner families and tortures them doing really nasty things. There is enough suffering in movies/TV. Enough Vikings/Walking Dead/Game of Thrones style where everything is dark.

Some "light side" show, with some drama and tension moments, but mainly with good people and awesome epic/legendary moments are always welcome. Some "dark side is always welcome", but not the main theme essence

PS: I LOVED the scene where Kanan emerges from the crates and walk against the troops XDD OMG I almost scream! XDD

I see folks kavitching about the lack of guards on the ships the crew of the Ghost was infiltrating...

Did you guys miss that the first ship was a trap , and it was remarked upon there being NO guards at all by the characters? It was meant to lull the heroes into a false sense of security, which would have worked had Ezra not had an attack of conscience (thanks to Hera's prodding) and running in to warn them. It was also the transport that Sabine set the explosive charges to destroy, which again didn't have any guards around as a deliberate means of entrapping the heroes.

Hera also mentioned fairly early on that the Ghost would be able to slip back to Lothal without showing on the Imps' radar (mentioned in conversation with Ezra when he remarks upon the craziness of the idea so soon after fleeing the planet), and they didn't exactly have to go that far into the Star Destroyer to find Ezra, who pretty much dropped in on them not long after they disembarked from the ship? And even then, the Imps already knew that the Ghost had gotten aboard, with Agent Kallus ordering troops to the lower decks before the heroes had fully stepped off the ship. So given the Ghost's ability to be, well, a ghost in regards to Imperial sensors, being able to get aboard the ISD undetected isn't that much of an ass-pull.

Just to comment on that point of the story. It is difficult for me to swallow that that trap is the best the Empire could design to capture some Rebels. Besides deploying 6 stormtroopers inside a cell (which is very pathetic taking into account the record of successes the stormtroopers have)...(...)

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This could be due to the fact that the Empire's resources are streched thinly in that system. They were caught unawares by the rise of the Rebellion State (RS), as a matter of speaking.

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Anyone can watch it. Go to www.watchdisneyxd.com or download the Disney xd app on your mobile device. Then you register you cable or satellite provider and it becomes available to watch online.

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>cable or satellite provider

C'mon, who pays for regular TV anymore? It's archaic.

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Last of a dying breed, before the dark times, before the Smartphone...

A more elegant setup from a more civilised time... Not those randow, clumsy devices.

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I thought that they tried to pack too much into one episode. Not enough "breaks" to digest emotionally what was going on... I guess the opposite of the Clone Wars experience.

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Or that Agent Kallus simply didn't rate them all that highly, and figured that the plan implemented would be sufficient to capture a small handful of independent insurgents, having next to no information on them. Where it not for Hera staying on the ship to be alerted to the ISD and subsequent comm jamming, and then convincing Ezra to go running out to warn the group, said trap plan might have actually worked since the rest of the Ghost's crew would have been taken completely by surprise when the Wookiees they thought they were liberating turned out to be stormtroopers.

But in the end, Josep is right: The good guys are going to win.

To quote the Joker (speaking to Batman), "You have to win every time, but I only have to win once!" Generally speaking, if the bad guys win (and by that I mean achieve their primary objective), then the show's over. Gargoyles was the first series to have a villain (David Xanatos) that could be defeated and still claim some measure of victory (giving rise to the Xanatos Gambit trope).

My big takeaway is that you can jam tractor beams.

My big takeaway is that you can jam tractor beams.

For all we know, it might be a special system built into the Ghost, and not something that most other ships are capable of doing by default. After all, the Ghost was able to slip past an ISD's sensors in order to dock, when I suspect most other ships would have been flagged right away.

Or could be that Chopper is that good of a slicer and the Ghost has a pretty rockin' on-board computer system and comm system that he could establish a connection to the ISD's computers and scramble the targeting on the tractor beams enough so that they stood no chance of catching the Ghost.

My big takeaway is that you can jam tractor beams.

For all we know, it might be a special system built into the Ghost, and not something that most other ships are capable of doing by default. After all, the Ghost was able to slip past an ISD's sensors in order to dock, when I suspect most other ships would have been flagged right away.

Or could be that Chopper is that good of a slicer and the Ghost has a pretty rockin' on-board computer system and comm system that he could establish a connection to the ISD's computers and scramble the targeting on the tractor beams enough so that they stood no chance of catching the Ghost.

Within the game, it could be accomplished with an Electronic Countermeasure Suite. In that case, it's just making it harder to hit the ship (lowering the effective silhouette), but that could be enough.

honestly im really tired of c3-po and r2-d2 episodes it was the same for the clone wars series i found it more annoying than entertaining.

honestly im really tired of c3-po and r2-d2 episodes it was the same for the clone wars series i found it more annoying than entertaining.

Whilst I would typically also dislike "celebrity" guest stars in this case I enjoyed them. The reason is that normally special guest stars rely on people going "oooh" simply because of their presence and the guests get special awesome status in their abilities, etc. Much like how some GMs run it if a canon character appears in their game ('Oh, it's Han Solo - he must be the bestest shot and the central character and...'). It takes away from the "PCs" in a show.

This didn't happen. And without meaning to insult, I suspect there's a touch of people simply expecting this to have happened and affecting their enjoyment just because they're so used to this being the case. Other than a brief moment when R2-D2 and C3-P0 entered and the camera gave them space to introduce themselves, they weren't given special status, the plot didn't even revolve around them and they didn't hog the camera or be the greatest ever just because they were celebrities. They were actually used to tie the characters into the larger universe and hint at bigger developments in the future with the Bail Organa scene at the end. R2 was competent as always, but C3-P0 was still the semi-incompetent boob he usually is. Basically, they fit into the episode is what I'm saying.

And if that doesn't convince, then all I have to say is you-sa should-a be grateful is'sa not a worsa!

I have not yet watched Rebels pilot, but I just started reading A New Dawn , and I am amused by new forms of Imperial Evilness. Like being Evil Corporate, or destroying the enviroment (bad! bad! bad!). Or taking away the fun. And few classical ones, like killing completely random people just to make a point.

I hope Count Vidian will be present in TV series, he is rather funny.

And if that doesn't convince, then all I have to say is you-sa should-a be grateful is'sa not a worsa!

You know, I'll say this for Jar Jar's Clone Wars episodes - there are too many of them, but they're all much better than they have any right to be.