Screaming from Hell, burning blue eyes of paralyzing dread, spewing green death fire it came to destroy!!!

BLACK SLAYER FLY AND REAP YOUR TERRIBLE GLORY!

judas PRIIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSTTTTTTTT! \m/

Terror Of The Imperial Sentinel

Doesn't that mean the Imperial Sentinel is terrified of the Defender?

Don't worry even demons can be slain too... but this one is a real task to do that, if you know anything about this game, of course.

Terror Of The Imperial Sentinel

Doesn't that mean the Imperial Sentinel is terrified of the Defender?

Maybe, but the TIE Defender is a sentinel of death regardless, always ready to kill, kill, kill!

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

A path to the dark side you are on...

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

Has someone been spanked by the tie defender? show on this x-wing plushie where the empire touched you.

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

I just don't get the Defender hate I see on these forums. Why do peopel hate this ship? I can see the tempation to load it with a bunch of stuff and make it too expensive, but I've been using Col. Vessery with just VI and been quite happy. This is especially with the Buzzsaw Shuttle to give TL's.

I think people (myself included) were excited to run pure Defender lists of dogfighting awesomeness. But FFGs interpretation is that of a heavy fighter and doesn't work well in pure lists.

But I don't hate it, I've accepted it as it is.

I have done nothing but destroy Rebel Scum with my glorious TIE Defenders!!!

I have three and will most-****-definitely be getting three more of these mighty beast!

For The Emperor!

I have three and will most-****-definitely be getting three more of these mighty beast!

For The Emperor!

Good. Goooooooooood...

I must not be the only one.

My buddy wants to run this in the Epic format:

Delta Squadron Pilot + HLC (x8) - 296

I think we've all agreed to NOT loan him the extra Defenders to let this abomination take the field.

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

Tell us how you really feel...

But really what dont you like, its an amazing ship that when flown well is a monster. Vessery is one of the better ships in the game right now.

My buddy wants to run this in the Epic format:

Delta Squadron Pilot + HLC (x8) - 296

I think we've all agreed to NOT loan him the extra Defenders to let this abomination take the field.

...how could you not want to take part in this grand experiment!

I have nothing but contempt for the abomination FFG calls a "Tie Defender" in what is an overall an absolutely excellent board game!

And that's against people like you that I prefer to take them out and beat you with them! It's like rubbing salt in your wounds.

Of course, I have to beat you first but if I lose, I just have to say that it is because I took a Defender and you have no choice but to agree!

Win-win!

The more i think about the Defender, the more I think the HLC isn't the way to go.

I'm more thinking:

Rexlar w/

-- Push the Limit

-- ION cannon

All for 43 points..

He can Focus and TL, and once he get's hits can convert them to crits... even for the ION cannon.

I have three and will most-****-definitely be getting three more of these mighty beast!

For The Emperor!

Good. Goooooooooood...

I must not be the only one.

You are not alone my Dark Brother...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEU-dciUEYM&feature=player_detailpage#t=808

Screaming from Hell, burning blue eyes of paralyzing dread, spewing green death fire it came to destroy!!!

BLACK SLAVER FLY AND REAP YOUR TERRIBLE GLORY!

I tried a 3 Defender list for the first time last weekend...so much fun!

The more i think about the Defender, the more I think the HLC isn't the way to go.

I'm more thinking:

Rexlar w/

-- Push the Limit

-- ION cannon

All for 43 points..

He can Focus and TL, and once he get's hits can convert them to crits... even for the ION cannon.

Sorry no you cancel all dice results long before you can trigger his ability, ion cannon is an utter waste on rexler.

The more i think about the Defender, the more I think the HLC isn't the way to go.

I'm more thinking:

Rexlar w/

-- Push the Limit

-- ION cannon

All for 43 points..

He can Focus and TL, and once he get's hits can convert them to crits... even for the ION cannon.

No. Why: Rexler Brath is osik. Defenders need PS1 to pull of the k-turn. PTL is osik on defenders because you don't want them stressed. And besides, that's six more points then a Delta with an HLC.

The more i think about the Defender, the more I think the HLC isn't the way to go.

I'm more thinking:

Rexlar w/

-- Push the Limit

-- ION cannon

All for 43 points..

He can Focus and TL, and once he get's hits can convert them to crits... even for the ION cannon.

No. Why: Rexler Brath is osik. Defenders need PS1 to pull of the k-turn. PTL is osik on defenders because you don't want them stressed. And besides, that's six more points then a Delta with an HLC.

Okay I agree on PTL being osik on Defenders, Predator for the same cost and doesn't stress the Defender does the same thing. Ion Cannons on Defenders are Osik you are rolling the same amount of dice as a normal attack with a third of the damage potential and with Rexlar this means you can only do 1 crit per turn instead of 3

High PS Defenders can work for the same reason high PS X-wings, B-wings and E-wings work its a High damage potential ship shooting first. If your K-turn is blocked no big deal it is no different than just doing a 4 straight and bumping. Ion cannons are counter productive.

The more i think about the Defender, the more I think the HLC isn't the way to go.

I'm more thinking:

Rexlar w/

-- Push the Limit

-- ION cannon

All for 43 points..

He can Focus and TL, and once he get's hits can convert them to crits... even for the ION cannon.

No. Why: Rexler Brath is osik. Defenders need PS1 to pull of the k-turn. PTL is osik on defenders because you don't want them stressed. And besides, that's six more points then a Delta with an HLC.

Okay I agree on PTL being osik on Defenders, Predator for the same cost and doesn't stress the Defender does the same thing. Ion Cannons on Defenders are Osik you are rolling the same amount of dice as a normal attack with a third of the damage potential and with Rexlar this means you can only do 1 crit per turn instead of 3

High PS Defenders can work for the same reason high PS X-wings, B-wings and E-wings work its a High damage potential ship shooting first. If your K-turn is blocked no big deal it is no different than just doing a 4 straight and bumping. Ion cannons are counter productive.

Alright, first, I didn't knew Star Wars also had their language/cultural freak like Star Trek with the Klingons and Lord of the Ring with the Elves.

Second, there is more in this game than always doing more damage. Setting for a better strike next turn can be more devastating. That's where the Ion Cannon come into play, because you forgot to mention the reason why you would fire with the Ion Cannon: forcing your opponent to make a 1 white straight maneuver next turn. It means you will know exactly where he'll be next turn and what he'll be facing. It means you know where to look for a juicy target and where not to be to avoid being shot at.

It's not because you give a Ion Cannon to a ship, the Defender in this case, that you a forced to use it every turn. When the situation needs you to do as much damage as possible, use your main cannon; when the Ion Cannon can give you an edge for the next turn (best one being forcing your opponent to end his next turn on an asteroid), use your Ion Cannon.

It can also be use to keep your opponent honest. Will he use PtL and get stressed with his Interceptor when he know you can shoot him with a Ion Cannon this turn? Stress+Ion=worst situation for an Interceptor. You haven't even shoot with it and you are forcing a choice to your opponent.

And all that for only 3 points. Defenders are fine without cannons, by equiping them with a Ion Cannon, you're just giving them one more trick they can do to their opponent. And that's not even mentionning the classic Ion token+White k-turn in their back next turn.

As for Rexler being **** because Defenders need to be PS1 to pull their k-turn? I'm just speechless. Because everytime I took Rexler in my teams he's been a beast, and I never had a problem maneuvring with him: Defenders are more than a white k-turn, read the field and you'll know when to pull it and when to do another maneuver. Between the PS1 and 3, I agree that I'll prefer the PS1, because they are both low PS. But you don't fly a high PS ship, like Rexler, like you would a low one. They are 2 different way to fly each with their strenght and weakness.

Related, but neither Google nor Urban Dictionary know what the heck osik means... and neither do I.