Hi people.

What do you think of the range 1 ordnance options, namely Advanced Proton Torpedos and Proton Rockets?

I had a friend who used APT against me in a casual match. He likes super kitting out his ships, so he took one really fat PS6 Ibtisam 48pts against two of my lower PS ships. He took an easy TL at the Range 3, then proceeded to have two turns at R1. And on one of them he took the shot. Got two hits and changed 3 to focuses, spent a focus for 5 hits. (Pretty typical stats for the APT i think).

6 points is a lot but I do think it really is pretty good on a high PS ship who can get into good positions. Realistically, its 5 damage for 6 points... Seismics usually only deal 1. ProtonBombs deal maybe two. Proton Torps and Conc missiles on a non-Jonus list typically are about 2.5/3.

The set up is also pretty easy as you don't have the worry of firing it the first round you take a TL, and then you also REALLY get a benefit from your Focus... as compared to Conc missile and Proton Torpedos really not being helped much, nor CAN you even help them much.

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So Proton Rockets? I think they will really benefit from having the true TL+F shot. I reckon they're probably about 3.5/4 hits on average with a F. Does have enough firepower to start closing the 2dice gap that happens on the Tie Advanced and A-wing?

Is it worth it to put it on a defender?

I am so anxious about APT it's crazy, I've been tempted to throw them on a ship and go for a 1 shot kill, or at least a finishing move! Dang though...6 points is scary to use on a one use item. That's half a Bandit! I think that is the real reason not very many people use it, it's just not worth the cost in the end.

I love discussion threads, its where I go to learn new strategies and to offer advice.

Just got Renal Aces, I think the torpedo turret will work well with APT's. Oppertunist and Jen might be fun to try to get a strength 7 shot off, just to brag that I did it.

APTs, when used with TL+F, have done me huge favors in the past, and I don't often hesitate when I want them. Usually I'll throw 'em on a B-wing or something, occasionally on Wedge with the Wes+VI and Wedge+Opportunist combo. Dropping their greens one, then hitting 'em with 6 dice TL+ F'd is crazy.

I'm certainly looking forward to the new proton rockets too. Those things on A-wings will certainly be nice, but I'm not sure A-wings will be too high on my list of priorities. Gotta try 'em out first, see how good they can be. TIE Advanced may enjoy the rockets too.

Most of the time foe the cost of 1 more piont on a Bwing prefer tje hlc. I might try the apt on wedge this weekend if i finish moving

Once you actually get to use them they are killers. I've only used them once, on a 2 E-wing list. Etahn and Corran armed to the teeth. Corran's APT blew an unharmed Royal Guard Pilot out of the skies, and Etahn's blew up a Defender.

One thing I could see myself doing is running Nera Dantels with a Recon Specialist and Deadeye together with 2 of these badboys. Got a large circle in which the two first to step into is likely to die.

Both are pretty potent. I like proton rockets a lot on 3 AG ships. I don't think they're enough to make and advance playable but not bad. I've put Outmanuver and Proton on a Defender a few times instead of HLC, makes that first round of range 1 fighting really interesting.

APT's are as close to garunteed damage you can get outside of a few of the new tricks the empire has. TL and Focus it's something silly like 96% (someone calculate it out) to get all hits or crits after modification. I've used them a few times but I usually prefer to spend the points elsewhere.

Proton Rockets should be stupid-good. Ordnance on low-PS ships has always been a problem (not only do you need a TL, but good luck getting one on a high-PS target). Only needing a focus--and not having to discard it to fire(!)--is a huge, huge deal.

Yeah I have not tried the proton rockets with their focus only requirement. Should be easier for low PS ships.

I'm considering using just one APT on a high ps ship though. It should give its worth.

Just got Renal Aces...

I realize this is one of those stupid autocorrect moments, but I LOL'd. Can I get Dennis Quaid running through my kidneys?