Jan+Katarn (or Ors + Kyle)?

By Marinealver, in X-Wing

If you look at the moldy crow crew cards in Rebel aces you can tell that they made Jan Ors (Pilot) + Kyle Katarn (crew) abilities match as well Kyle Katarn (pilot) + Jan Ors (crew).

We all know Katarn (pilot) as a focus battery however when combined with Jan (crew) who allows not only focus actions to be turn into evade tokens but passing of focus tokens to be turn into evades. Jan essentially turns Katarn from a focus token battery to an evade token generator.

Now with Kyle (crew) ability it doesn't seem all that clear being able to assign a focus token when you remove a stress until you pair it with Ors (pilot) ability which boosts friendly attacks by receiving 1 stress. SO after using Ors ability to turn a 4 dice attack to a 5 dice attack you can green 2 to remove stress and get a focus and then you can do focus action. This is great with things like blaster turret if you go for a maximum fire power build as you can use Kyle focus token to fire blaster turret and then use either your focus action or target lock action to modify dice rolls.

Now the thing is Jan is 1 more point than Kyle so the Ors w/Kyle Hawk(28) is 5 more points than the Katarn w/Jan Hawk(23).

So my question which combination do you think is better and will be seen the most? Will this make Jan Ors (pilot) more popular or will Kyle Katarn be the ultimate in rebel support? Your thoughts ,comments, or other questions?

Edited by Marinealver

I like the Jan w/Kyle crew. It gives the rest of your squad a very nice offensive boost, while you are able to turn Jan into a nice little gunboat with the Blaster Turret.

We all know Katarn (pilot) as a focus battery however when combined with Jan (crew) who allows not only focus actions to be turn into evade tokens but passing of focus tokens to be turn into evades. Jan essentially turns Katarn from a focus token battery to an evade token battery as well.

Except you have to give up the Recon Spec to do it, which means Kyle can no longer provide Focus tokens while also defending himself and/or modifying his own attacks. That's too big a loss for a couple of Evade tokens to make up for.

See, Jan crew turns Kyle into a more defensive type support. I see this being used with E-wings and A-wings, making the reallyl difficult to kill.

We all know Katarn (pilot) as a focus battery however when combined with Jan (crew) who allows not only focus actions to be turn into evade tokens but passing of focus tokens to be turn into evades. Jan essentially turns Katarn from a focus token battery to an evade token battery as well.

Except you have to give up the Recon Spec to do it, which means Kyle can no longer provide Focus tokens while also defending himself and/or modifying his own attacks. That's too big a loss for a couple of Evade tokens to make up for.

Probably why that combination is 5 points less then the other one.

However you can combine it with Wes' ability to pass your focus as an evade token instead, or if someone has Lando from wave 5 you can increase the odds of getting evades from a focus token. Or if another craft has recon specialist (B-wing E2 for example) it can get a focus and an evade. There are possibilities with both. Still I am hoping I see more of Ors. Haven't seen her be used as a pilot when people can use Katarn as a focus battery.

I still think RecSpec is still the better option for Jan if you're planning on using her ability on herself (can you do that? I'll check in a minute)

I see Kyle being fantastic when he flies with a wingman. Say you're classic fat falcon (as if it needed more help) Chewbacca with MF, C3PO, PTL and Kyle and Airen Cracken flying wingman. Movement, TL and focus, get stressed. Combat remove the stress and get another focus. Airen attacks and gives the free action for an evade. Maybe get really silly and add an extended Bwing with Jan to turn one of those focuses to another evade. Total 98 points so you could add anti-pursuit laser or bump up to dagger squad. With wave 5 maybe switch C3PO for Lando. Is this a smart list? Probably not, but man would it be fun to try.

I still think RecSpec is still the better option for Jan if you're planning on using her ability on herself (can you do that? I'll check in a minute)

I see Kyle being fantastic when he flies with a wingman. Say you're classic fat falcon (as if it needed more help) Chewbacca with MF, C3PO, PTL and Kyle and Airen Cracken flying wingman. Movement, TL and focus, get stressed. Combat remove the stress and get another focus. Airen attacks and gives the free action for an evade. Maybe get really silly and add an extended Bwing with Jan to turn one of those focuses to another evade. Total 98 points so you could add anti-pursuit laser or bump up to dagger squad. With wave 5 maybe switch C3PO for Lando. Is this a smart list? Probably not, but man would it be fun to try.

Lando is random, sure he could give you more tokens but he can also give you nothing. Not to mention if you really need a focus you could get nothing but evades and visa versa (though evades are more likely). With C-3PO unless you bet against the odds with him you know exactly what you are getting. If you got the Title then I wouldn't do Lando(crew) without PTL or Experimental interface, Either way if you got Lando (crew) you don't really need another evade token.

I still think RecSpec is still the better option for Jan if you're planning on using her ability on herself (can you do that? I'll check in a minute)

I see Kyle being fantastic when he flies with a wingman. Say you're classic fat falcon (as if it needed more help) Chewbacca with MF, C3PO, PTL and Kyle and Airen Cracken flying wingman. Movement, TL and focus, get stressed. Combat remove the stress and get another focus. Airen attacks and gives the free action for an evade. Maybe get really silly and add an extended Bwing with Jan to turn one of those focuses to another evade. Total 98 points so you could add anti-pursuit laser or bump up to dagger squad. With wave 5 maybe switch C3PO for Lando. Is this a smart list? Probably not, but man would it be fun to try.

Lando is random, sure he could give you more tokens but he can also give you nothing. Not to mention if you really need a focus you could get nothing but evades and visa versa (though evades are more likely). With C-3PO unless you bet against the odds with him you know exactly what you are getting. If you got the Title then I wouldn't do Lando(crew) without PTL or Experimental interface, Either way if you got Lando (crew) you don't really need another evade token.

This is purely an experiment in maximizing actions, mostly to the extent of a ridiculous number of evade tokens. Turning the dial to 11. As stated, not a smart list.