I have to ask because I hear this a lot: Threepio + Falcon can give you three evades per turn.

C-3po - "Once per round, before you roll 1 or more defense dice, you may guess aloud a number of [Evade] results. If you roll that many [Evade] results (before modifying dice), add 1 [Evade] result."

The way I am reading this is that you can use Threepio for ONE attack per turn, which is pretty clear.

The YT-1300 has 1 defense die. So once per turn you guess ZERO [Evade] results (which is what seems to be the common consensus).

You roll your 1 defense dice against the attack and get a [blank] result, so Threepio kicks in because you guessed correct and instead of a [blank], you add 1 [Evade] result to the 0 [Evades] that you naturally rolled.

Coupled with spending your action for the turn to use the Falcon title to gain 1 Evade token, that will give you a maximum of TWO evade for ONE attack.

If on that attack that you use Threepio you happen to roll a [Focus] result instead of a [blank] result, Threepio will still give you 1 [Evade] result because you still rolled 0 [Evade] on your 1 natural die.

However, if you had PTL onboard and Push'd (or received one from another source) a Focus token as well for that turn, you could use it to turn that [Focus] result into an additional [Evade], thus giving you the fabled 3 Evades for that ONE attack - because C-3PO allows you to modify your dice after his ability kicks in.

From what I am reading in people's comments on the Forums, it seems to me that there are many who are using C-3PO to roll the 1 die that the YT-1300 naturally rolls, counting any [Evade] results, PLUS rolling another die for C-3PO and counting any [Evade] results they gain by guessing 0 (plus 1 more if they happen to have a Focus token to turn a [Focus] result into another Evade).

The way I read the C-3PO card is that you roll your natural dice for the ship he is on (most often the YT-1300), you guess 0 [Evade] results and roll a natural [Evade] on the 1 die that the YT-1300 gets. Threepio does NOT work and you only get the one natural Evade on the attack. Two, if you used your action to get a Evade token from the Falcon title, or possibly three if you also happen to have had a Focus token as well.

Am I C-3PO wrong? If I am not, it seems to me that the "Fat Han" is not an insurmountable mountain may seem to believe he is.

You roll only one die, guess the result, get an evade if you're right.

The way I am reading this is that you can use Threepio for ONE attack per turn, which is pretty clear.

Am I C-3PO wrong? If I am not, it seems to me that the "Fat Han" is not an insurmountable mountain may seem to believe he is.

Sorry, but you are reading it wrong: it is ONCE per round. You can be attacked SEVERAL TIMES per round (e.g., by 4 Tie Figthers), but you can only use it ONCE (say, on the first attack, for the three others you are on your own and 3P0 cannot be used) for the entire round.

Soooooo, exactly what I said.

One attack per turn is the same as once per round.

You are reading it correctly.

Before rolling your normal defense dice (i.e. when you are defending against an attack), IF you are rolling at least one defense die, you MAY declare a number of natural evade symbols that the dice you roll as part of your normal defense pool will generate. If that is the number of natural (i.e. unmodified) evade symbols you roll as part of your normal defense pool, you add an additional evade result to the pool.

You may only use this ability during one attack each turn.

Note: the evade result generated by C-3P0 is NOT a defense die or an evade token, so it CAN cancel hits from Ten Nunb, Autoblasters and/or Homing Missiles, even if your natural (i.e. from the dice) evade results and evade tokens cannot.

There are even crew combos coming that can get 4-5 I'm pretty sure. Whether or not those will be anywhere near viable has yet to be seen.

It's just important to remember that if you declare Threepio and roll an evade anyway, your use of Threepio is still used up. Make sure your opponents know that.

So let me get your question clear. You are asking if you had C-3PO on a Faclon (title) what is the maximum # of evades you can get per turn?

So for natural agility you can cancel up to 1 + 3PO correct (1) guess gets another 1 + Evade action for Falcon title. = 3 attacks canceled.

To be more accurate you can get up to 4 evades.

natural agility + range 3 agility bonus + 3PO correct guess (2) + Title Evade action = 4 (or you could even add more if agility bonus if attack is obstructed.)

The thing about doing that is that the probability or rolling 0 > the probability of rolling 1. If you evade token and guess 1 to cancel a 3 hit you are playing on 3 to 5 odds (or is it 5 to 3, any gamblers out there can set me straight?) Even less if guessing 2 when rolling 2 dice.

3PO is one of those funny cards because while most upgrades do better modification with higher stats (ACD for example is better on high skill) 3PO is one of the few cards that does better with lower stats (agility). Also low agility is sort of the balance against high health ship (but not always).

So that is why everyone guess 0, it is much more likely to roll 0 even with 2 or more dice, but it is more likely to roll 0 with only 1 defense dice which is why it is on the falcon. (If someone wants to do the odds or C-3PO guess to # of defense dice be my guest)

That why I think accuracy corrector is coming out. It is the counter to C-3PO on falcons by forcing them to either bet against the odds and negate the damage or decide to play it as safe and just continue to eat 1 or more. Put 2 of them on B-wings and you are guaranteed to get 2 hits as your worst roll with ability to get 3 or 4 hits at your best.

Of course you are. The Card clearly says, "The FFG forum freaks the hell out about me."

Of course you are. The Card clearly says, "The FFG forum freaks the hell out about me."

Hehe, that's what I thought.

Of course you are. The Card clearly says, "The FFG forum freaks the hell out about me."

Hehe, that's what I thought.

+ "Countermeasures" !