I could see gamorreans in the smuggler book if they delve into piracy in it.

If so, I want a picture of a Gamorrean in a vest and cowboy hat. NO EXCEPTIONS!

That might even top the Pimp Trandoshan in AoE.

Although, nothing beats the male Mon Cal dancer in a loin cloth in FH.

Keep in mind, though, that astonishment is relative. A Hutt moving at a typical walking speed for a biped could be considered astonishing.

I agree with the sentiment, though. A snail-speed Hutt would be ridiculous. I'd be happier with slowish; walking with a Hutt would be like walking with a less easily-distracted toddler.

Well, we do have an on-screen instance of a Human walking alongsid a Hutt, that being the ANH Special Edition with the re-introduced scene of Han and Jabba talking in front of the Falcon.

Jabba was moving pretty slow compared to Han's normal stride, so we see Han deliberately slowing his pace down for much of the conversation.

We also see Jabba slithering along in TPM just prior to the start of the Boonta Eve podrace, and again he's not moving very quickly compared to the normal stride of an adult human.

So odds are Hutt's aren't going to be super-quick on their feet, with the question being "how's that going to be mechanically implemented?" Could be that if a Hutt wants to move more than one range band during their turn, they need to suffer 2 strain for the exertion (making it 4 strain if they wanted to take two maneuvers to change range bands, such as going from Medium to Engaged). Or could be (and likely will be) something entirely different. Or it may not even be directly reflected in their special abilities at all, much like how Toydarians' alleged immunity to mind tricks is addressed by simply giving them a higher base Willpower than average, so we could just see Hutts having Agility 1 as their base to account for their general lack of speed.

I bet it'll be just like the reverse of the Swift talent. Which is to say that if they do anything it'll be for overland movement and that in combat movement distances are small enough where it doesn't make a difference.

I've heard from my gm that all Hutt adversaries in the books so far have the ponderous quality. Meaning they can only make one maneuver per turn, of course if you really need to step on the gas a successful athletics check will get you further for your movement. However I think homebrewing a hover sled of some sort is a perfectly reasonable idea, it only floats maybe a foot off the ground and and can get about something like 10 mph, or your average person running but not at a full Sprint

you likely won't need to home brew one. they will likely have one in the book. and I think Crate of Krayts had one...let me go check

Nope. It is mentioned but no stats.

Gammoreans COULD be in a 'sector' book, if it focuses less on a particular region, and more on the warrior cultures in the galaxy - specifically if it focuses on the ones that do mercenary work. Mandolorians could be included in the book as well.

It does seem like Gammoreans would be best suited to show up in this Hutt Space book, or in the Hired Gun career splat book...they can show up elsewhere, but one of those two is where I would have put them.

I think they have either decided to leave the Gammoreans as an NPC species or have something special planned for them.

Maybe an AoR book.

Yeah, you remember. Just after the bit where Greedo pulls a gun on Han Solo and he shoots him in self-defence.

I said "la la la" sir.

Good day!

I swear I heard Gene Wilder's voice saying just that, hehe.

"You stole fizzy lifting drinks!"

Maybe an AoR book.

This is a thought too. They may show up in an AoR book. Perhaps one for the soldier.

Maybe an AoR book.

This is a thought too. They may show up in an AoR book. Perhaps one for the soldier.

Or Spy, there was that one Gamorrean who was in Wraith Squadron .

Maybe an AoR book.

This is a thought too. They may show up in an AoR book. Perhaps one for the soldier.

Or Spy, there was that one Gamorrean who was in Wraith Squadron .

I'm not sure if there were enough Gamorreans in the Alliance or Imperial forces to justify including them in the soldier book and Pigy was enhanced so much that basing the species on him would be insane.

I think they have either decided to leave the Gammoreans as an NPC species or have something special planned for them.

if they made Hutts as a PC species, I simply cannot imagine Gammoreans not getting a similar treatment.

My money is on Bounty Hunter splat book. It doesn't fit perfectly, but many of the species from the other career books weren't perfect fits either.

Maybe an AoR book.

This is a thought too. They may show up in an AoR book. Perhaps one for the soldier.

Or Spy, there was that one Gamorrean who was in Wraith Squadron .

I'm not sure if there were enough Gamorreans in the Alliance or Imperial forces to justify including them in the soldier book and Pigy was enhanced so much that basing the species on him would be insane.

Heck, I wouldn't have thought there were enough Chadra-Fans either, yet they are in the upcoming "Ace" book, a pilot book no less (most likely for beast riders, but I could be wrong).

Admittedly, I would have placed Talz in there first especially with them being beast riders in TWC series, but I can see them in a warrior book too, but most likely we will get them in a mechanics book and be like WTF? until we read their section and then it will all make sense.

Honestly, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to some of the species selections for the splat books, at least until you read the write-ups and see how they are presented.

I fully agree on Pigy, in no way should a species be based off this exceptional member, but it does hold for a "what can be attained".

Perhaps the language issue is what's holding them back, as I recall, like wookies they are not so hot with speaking anything but swinese. Wouldn't want too many peeps in the party, unable to communicate.

I think they have either decided to leave the Gammoreans as an NPC species or have something special planned for them.

if they made Hutts as a PC species, I simply cannot imagine Gammoreans not getting a similar treatment.

My money is on Bounty Hunter splat book. It doesn't fit perfectly, but many of the species from the other career books weren't perfect fits either.

Or the technicians book.... can be all pigged out with gams and ugnaughts. (irt previous post) Glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.

How about Talz, gammoreans and ewoks... the name of the book: Primitive Screwheads.

How about Talz, gammoreans and ewoks... the name of the book: Primitive Screwheads.

Only if they give us a.... BOOMSTICK!

How about Talz, gammoreans and ewoks...

Oh my!

How about Talz, gammoreans and ewoks...

Oh my!

I cannot read those two words in anything but George Takei's voice.

I could see gamorreans in the smuggler book if they delve into piracy in it.

"Pirate" would be a fantastic specialization for the Smuggler career-book. I vote yes!

Something to consider when it comes to species and books, based on my work on the Aces book. The announce species (Dressellians, Chadra-Fan, and Xexto) would seem to have little history or sense relating to the Alliance Starfighter Corps, or Ace as a career.

HOWEVER, if you take into consideration the three new announced specializations in Aces (Rigger, Hotshot, Beast Rider) then all of a sudden it seems as if each species selection was tailor made for one of the specializations.

Chadra-Fan are notorious tinkerers, and Riggers work well with that thematically. Xexto are insane daredevils, and Hotshot works well with that. Dressellian native technology is still relatively primitive, they still use slugthrowers in a lot of cases. However, they might work very well as beast riders. I wouldn't always focus too hard on relating a species to the broader career. Yes, there's an element of that for some species selections, but it could just as easily be tied to a specific specializations (either new or existing) within that career.

Now, I have no knowledge one way or another, this is clearly an example that will never, ever happen. But let's say the Mystic career splatbook for F&D has a talent tree or some background for the Nuns of Gav'er'one, a Gamorrean force tradition of dubious canonical relevance. Gamorreans might end up THERE. Basically, without knowing what specializations and the like are planned for new career books, its difficult to pick the species with much accuracy. Gamorreans certainly COULD have been a good fit here, but they could just as easily fit into some kind of melee bashing spec for bounty hunter or soldier. Hell, Pic and Gorc from the Jedi Knight video game might justify their inclusion in one of the Force splat books. Someone mentioned Piggy and the spy book.

If you look at most of the new specializations being added to the careers thus far, in many cases, the specializations seek to broaden the range of skills within a career, as opposed to narrowing the focus. Marshall and Entertainer, for instance, brought a bit more combat savvy to the otherwise combat soft colonist. Hired Guns got some more social skill with the Enforcer, and some more technical skill with demolitionist. Explorer got a bit more combat with big game hunter, and more vehicular with driver.

If we look at the species, Unknown added Chiss, Duros, and Toydariens. Clearly, Toydariens are there becuase they work well with the trader spec, even if we don't generally think of them as explorers. Duros work great as Drivers or Fringers (the astrogators), while Chiss are shown as big game hunters, and fit well with the general theme of the unknown (specifically the unknown regions). Far Horizons and Covenants would seem to give us species that are more in line with the general theme of the base career. But the important thing to consider is that they don't necessarily have to. Sometimes including an odd species in a book (like Toydarien) leads to some amazing art and unique character concepts that break the stereotypical mold associated with a species.

Finally, remember (this has been stated by the devs in interviews before), all of the species for all of the books were planned out when the line was first conceived. They did this so that the entire line wasn't just front-loaded with all the coolest ones, and by the time F&D came around, they'd be scrambling for obscure species to fill those books with. Just because you haven't seen your favorite yet, doesn't mean its not coming.

I think this book will be great. I'd really like to use the Hutts more and if this makes them more varied that will be really useful.

I've also decided, that though I really, really like to stick to canon, I'm going to HAVE to have Ziro the Hutt alive in my campaign. I dislike changing things but he's simply too precious not to.

And I just want to use this:

That's it... because of that video there will be a Hutt scientist (age of rebellion)/performer that is making a human replica droid. Furto the hutt.

That video is even funnier knowing that Hutts are supposed to be hermaphroditic. Or at least, they were in legends.

And that Tim Currey voiced Palpatine in one of the lost episodes.

That video is even funnier knowing that Hutts are supposed to be hermaphroditic. Or at least, they were in legends.

Oh, I know! I very much hope they haven't changed that - will be very disappointed if they have. It ties into one of those strangely perverse things about the Hutts that makes them so deliciously sinister. Not because there's anything sinister about being hermaphroditic, in itself. But when you put it next to other features of the Hutt is makes them so mouth-wateringly ambiguous. WHY do they like to watch Twi'lek women cavorting for them? Is it sexual attraction? Or is it because they know it conveys status to so many humanoid species. Or is it simply an aesthetic appreciation the way we might admire a tiger or thoroughbred horse? They're so weirdly alien and yet have such an air of vice about them. It's a compelling part of their attraction.

Ziro the Hutt as Dr. Frank N. Furter... it's one of those strokes of genius that only the person who came up with it could ever have thought of, but afterwards seems a perfectly natural fit.

Also, Capote, wasn't a musical