Whisper + VI vs Han + VI

By ltcwinger, in X-Wing

Has anyone flying Whisper with VI been able to crack Han with VI?

Does being a buzz saw with captain yorr help? Maybe with a touch of soontir?

Yes, playing a list with Whisper + 5 Academy pilots.

The academy pilot get soon between whisper and Fat Solo, and you use blocking and maneuvers to keep Whisper at range 2-3, and use evade every turn. If he separates his support from Fat Solo, that's what whisper will shoot at, otherwise you want it to take shots at Fat Solo so the swarm takes it down quickly.

I want to try this

"Whisper" (32)
Outmaneuver (3)
Fire-Control System (2)
Recon Specialist (3)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Kath Scarlet (38)
Predator (3)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Proton Bomb (5)
Recon Specialist (3)
Slave I (0)

Total: 100

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no point trying to out bid han on PS so outmaneuver him instead to combat 3PO but that wont be till after he combat his escorts. Kath is the falcon killer

Yes, playing a list with Whisper + 5 Academy pilots.

The academy pilot get soon between whisper and Fat Solo, and you use blocking and maneuvers to keep Whisper at range 2-3, and use evade every turn. If he separates his support from Fat Solo, that's what whisper will shoot at, otherwise you want it to take shots at Fat Solo so the swarm takes it down quickly.

Yep and I use a similar concept as above. I either keep Whisper away until Han is manageable or try to stay at Range 3 as long as possible. VI Han with the right setup is Whispers toughest matchup and winning is usually an uphill battle from the start.

Yes, playing a list with Whisper + 5 Academy pilots.

This!

It combines the sniping ability of the phantom with the firepower of the mass of a swarm. Han focuses on the phantom, while the fighters do the real damage.

Edited by PS10

PS10, it is still an uphill battle tho.

Corrently the only ways for the Empire to hunt down Falcon are:

- 7-8x TIE/f swarm

- 4x sigma phantom

- mass bomber swarm

(especialy with cluster missiles and Jonus)

- 1x firespray + 3x lambda

- 3x firespray

THE PROBLEM - there are not cheap builds, requries to buy many ships

Edited by Teokrata

I want to try this

"Whisper" (32)

Outmaneuver (3)

Fire-Control System (2)

Recon Specialist (3)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Kath Scarlet (38)

Predator (3)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Proton Bomb (5)

Recon Specialist (3)

Slave I (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

no point trying to out bid han on PS so outmaneuver him instead to combat 3PO but that wont be till after he combat his escorts. Kath is the falcon killer

I'm planning a similar, less fully loaded list that includes a Doom shuttle for my first tourney.

Corrently the only ways for the Empire to hunt down Falcon are:

- 7-8x TIE/f swarm

- 4x sigma phantom

- mass bomber swarm

(especialy with cluster missiles and Jonus)

- 1x firespray + 3x lambda

- 3x firespray

THE PROBLEM - there are not cheap builds, requries to buy many ships

HLC Vessery is also pretty handy against Han.

Ya I beat a double falcon list twice and an echo phantom build with this setup.

BH+gunner x2

Doom shuttle

The gunner never triggers with the falcons it's there primarily for those pesky phantoms but the fact that you have 30 hp and 9 attack dice plus vader crits vs only 6 attack dice and 26 hp def demolished falcon lists. I imagine the same would hold true for a fat Han list as well. Also something I'm planning on trying is boba fett plus outmanuever. That would make falcon lists roll 0 evades at range 1-2 therefore c3po cannot trigger.

Edited by Jaden Ckast

Ive done it by combining Rebel Captive on Whisper and Tactician on some shuttles. When Han had 7 stress tokens, it was much harser for him to do more than 1 damage a round.

However, it is still not a "count", as I've also lost to VI Han. All in all, VI Han just has an advantage over our friendly neighborhood Phantom, and you should expect to win more than lose. Good play helps, but there isn't always much you can do in this situation. Not to be pessimistic! Just a difficult matchup.

I think Rear Admiral + VI + Rebel Captive will be much worse though.

Yes, playing a list with Whisper + 5 Academy pilots.

The academy pilot get soon between whisper and Fat Solo, and you use blocking and maneuvers to keep Whisper at range 2-3, and use evade every turn. If he separates his support from Fat Solo, that's what whisper will shoot at, otherwise you want it to take shots at Fat Solo so the swarm takes it down quickly.

Do you think Howlrunner and 3 Obsidians would also work, or is the number the critical factor here? I've had lots of problems getting hits through with Ties once Howlrunner gets blown up, so I'm reluctant to send out the Ties without her.