So I wanted to point out the absurdity of Fat Han. When you have most squads battling it out you have to account for maneuvering, order of movement, final placement of ships, etc. This is where the entire strategy element of this game is located. Fat Han can ignore 99% of this. As long as he avoids flying off the board or landing on a rock he doesn't care. Because Fat Han involves no strategy, no maneuvering. All Fat Han does is pull the arm of a rigged slot machine. Did I get 3 cherries? No? Pull the arm again! No? Again! No? Again! It's stupid.

Now to prevent this from being a simple rant I want to point out my glimmer of hope on the horizon. A glimmer that is the steely glint on the chassis of a merciless killing machine named IG-88. I think IG-88 will be rock to Han's scissors.

So is the swarm. Falcons are still destroyed easily by a well flown swarm.

Good point. Guess I'd better ebay my whole collection.

Good point. Guess I'd better ebay my whole collection.

I'll give you $5.00.

I lost to a Fat Han the other day and while my opponent may not have broken a sweat, it was one of the most thought provoking fights I've had in a long time. And to be honest, the dice were with him on one roll that I needed to land (would've ionned him onto an asteroid) so it was pretty even to the end.

Fat Han is a thing. It's here to stay. It's not the end all, be all, but it should be taken into serious consideration.

I hear Fat Han evades 3 dice attacks with his 1 agility on the reg. ritoplznerf

Is the sky still falling? Can we call the build phat Han so it sounds more street?

Seriously can we stop; it is a legitimate build with strengths and weaknesses, try and enjoy exposing the latter.

Visions of a 350lb Jabba-looking Han Solo running in my head aside... What is the build for a Fat Han? I've been in Interceptor world lately, and haven't come up against one of these yet..

Oh great, this again.

Visions of a 350lb Jabba-looking Han Solo running in my head aside... What is the build for a Fat Han? I've been in Interceptor world lately, and haven't come up against one of these yet..

Basically a loaded up Han. Most commonly with MF title and C3-P0, because it makes him super tanky.

Lotta people complaining about this because they can't beat it.
Chewie is also a popular pilot for the build because of his anti-crit ability.

If you roll fat Han without worrying about position or maneuvering or ranges you will get slaughtered by any squad that is half-competent.

Han has 3 dice and shoots at one target most of the time.

Is the sky still falling? Can we call the build phat Han so it sounds more street?

Seriously can we stop; it is a legitimate build with strengths and weaknesses, try and enjoy exposing the latter.

No. the sky is not falling.

t is just that it has remarkably few weaknesses and it is a hard counter to quite a few things paying a premium in points for their manoeuvrability.

It is for a reason so very popular and appearing at high places in tournaments.

Not this again!

Anyways, with this list maneuverability doesn't matter AS MUCH but still matters. If you pay attention to maneuvering and fly han like an interceptor, you can make it into tournaments. Engine upgrade is worth WAY more than C-3PO.

Anyways, you should be worried more about phat dash than phat han whenever the boat gets here.

Visions of a 350lb Jabba-looking Han Solo running in my head aside... What is the build for a Fat Han? I've been in Interceptor world lately, and haven't come up against one of these yet..

Buckle up, because you're all but guaranteed to run into it sooner or later and it will likely rip your Interceptors to shreds.

Fat Han is basically a fully loaded Han Solo, usually with Gunner (or Luke), C-3P0, the Millenium Falcon Title, and your EPT of choice- Veteran Instincts is popular right now for dealing with Phantoms. It's a nasty build because C-3P0 and MFtitle guarantee it two evades per turn, so it can take a whole to tear it down, especially if you have a build with fewer ships. It's popular at the moment because it's a very hard counter to the Phantom builds out there, which have also been popular lately.

It is for a reason so very popular and appearing at high places in tournaments.

HSF or now Fat Han has always been a good list. But most of what the OP says is just completely wrong. No one is just going to spin the dial and take what ever maneuver comes up.

Someone mentioned sending Fel's Wrath against him.

My response was "hah! That's pilot sucks! He's completely usele...hmmm....well....interesting..."

It's not exactly a hard counter and he's too expensive to simply sacrifice, you could get a couple good hits in while nullifying Han's high PS.

I'm not happy with this Phantom/Swarm/Falcon = Rock/Paper/Scissors situation and I have a soft spot in my heart for the underdog pilots. It might just be crazy enough to work.....!

Good point. Guess I'd better ebay my whole collection.

I'll give you $5.00.

Ok, but it's a pretty big collection. I'm going to have to charge you for postage.

I'm just sitting here picturing Han Solo eating a bag of deep fried cheetohs.

It's popular at the moment because it's a very hard counter to the Phantom builds out there, which have also been popular lately.

Oddly enough there's so many Fat Hans out there that you don't see many phantoms.

So, the same rant against the turreted Falcon we've been getting since Wave 2?

Oh great, this again.

Visions of a 350lb Jabba-looking Han Solo running in my head aside... What is the build for a Fat Han? I've been in Interceptor world lately, and haven't come up against one of these yet..

Basically a loaded up Han. Most commonly with MF title and C3-P0, because it makes him super tanky.

Lotta people complaining about this because they can't beat it.

Chewie is also a popular pilot for the build because of his anti-crit ability.

Thanks.. I see all sorts of lists here there and everywhere, but putting a name to them at times can be confusing. Besides the obvious HSF list, and maybe Scarlett Cowgirl, I'm usually behind the times when it comes to list names. And I'm not a big Falcon flyer, and don't own a Tantive yet, so just haven't had the chance to build one of these.

"HAN REQUIRES NO SKILL TO PLAY."

It does require skill to play and there are solid lists that can take Han down brutally. It also requires the Han opponent to fly exceptionally well. If all guns are pointed at Han, he'll go down quick. Sure, you neglect the rest of their force, but once you pop that 60 point Falcon, the rest is just mopping up.

Not this again!

Anyways, with this list maneuverability doesn't matter AS MUCH but still matters. If you pay attention to maneuvering and fly han like an interceptor, you can make it into tournaments. Engine upgrade is worth WAY more than C-3PO.

Anyways, you should be worried more about phat dash than phat han whenever the boat gets here.

I think maneuvers matter just as much, but they matter for different reasons. With a fat falcon, your maneuvering priority is not to target the ship you want to attack but to protect your 60 point investment that only shoots once per round (gunners excepted).

It's popular at the moment because it's a very hard counter to the Phantom builds out there, which have also been popular lately.

Oddly enough there's so many Fat Hans out there that you don't see many phantoms.

The reports from Gencon suggest otherwise. Remember that the winning squad included a phantom and an interceptor.

"HAN REQUIRES NO SKILL TO PLAY."

It does require skill to play and there are solid lists that can take Han down brutally. It also requires the Han opponent to fly exceptionally well. If all guns are pointed at Han, he'll go down quick. Sure, you neglect the rest of their force, but once you pop that 60 point Falcon, the rest is just mopping up.

Requires no skill to play.

Requires skill to WIN.

There is a difference. The falcon is a great starter ship, AND a great ship for experienced players. Its nice to see ships like that.

It's popular at the moment because it's a very hard counter to the Phantom builds out there, which have also been popular lately.

Oddly enough there's so many Fat Hans out there that you don't see many phantoms.

The reports from Gencon suggest otherwise. Remember that the winning squad included a phantom and an interceptor.

Falcons are much, much more prolific than Phantoms (or at least they were in the most recent tournaments I have seen, including Gen Con). Remember that the top tables are not necessarily representative of the whole tournament.

Not this again!

Anyways, with this list maneuverability doesn't matter AS MUCH but still matters. If you pay attention to maneuvering and fly han like an interceptor, you can make it into tournaments. Engine upgrade is worth WAY more than C-3PO.

Anyways, you should be worried more about phat dash than phat han whenever the boat gets here.

I think maneuvers matter just as much, but they matter for different reasons. With a fat falcon, your maneuvering priority is not to target the ship you want to attack but to protect your 60 point investment that only shoots once per round (gunners excepted).

I believe that if you want to run a falcon competatively you need to plan your turns 2-3 turns out and boost often and frequently. Sure generating 2-4 autoevades is good, but 2-4 auto evades vs 6 attacks is bad, but against 1-2 attacks it is very powerful. Using Hans high pilot skill and thoughtful maneuvers to arc dodge (boosting when your maneuver isn't enough) keeps han alive far longer than sitting their letting people shoot at him.