Complete the Red Baron List

By TheRealStarkiller, in X-Wing

Baron Soontir Fel in a red interceptor is the Red Baron:

Soontir Fel 27

+ PTL 3

+ Title

+ Shield Upgrade 4

+ Targeting Computer 2

= 36

What would you add to complete the list?

I'd drop the Shield to a Hull or Stealth Device. Given Fel's action economy Stealth Device is probably fully worth it.

Edited by Lagomorphia

I usually run him with PTL and Stealth Device, and then maybe a Bounty Hunter or two.

-Cal

Add something people will want to shoot at. Buzzsaw shuttle or similar plump target. You REALLY want to be able to get him behind them early.

I would call the build "Flying Circus", and use the other 64 pts for x3 Sabre Squadron Pilots, and you've got 1pt left for whatever you want, or don't spend it and steal initiative.

Edited by Bakura83

I'd drop the Shield to a Hull or Stealth Device. Given Fel's action economy Stealth Device is probably fully worth it.

Agreed. Maybe something like:

(35) Soontir / PTL / TC / Stealth

(44) Whisper / FCS / Gunner / VI / ACD

(21) OGP

... although, in that case I'd rather drop stealth to give the OGP either Vader or APL.

My Red Baron flying circus list is (apologies for phone formatting):

Fel + PTL, TC, SU, RG

Mailer Mithel

Backstabber

Dark Curse

Night Beast

They work great together. Set up the mini swarm on one side and Fel at the other; whoever they turn to face leaves the other to do good damage.

I would call the build "Flying Circus", and use the other 64 pts for x3 Sabre Squadron Pilots, and you've got 1pt left for whatever you want, or don't spend it and steal initiative.

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/70463/the-red-baron

I call this one "Fell's Brath"

Fell, PTL, Shield U, Targeting C, RGT

Brath, Predator

Academy Pilot X2

I only flew it once against a Whisper, Bounty Hunter and two tie fighter list.

It did very well, I was left with an unscratched Fell and an Academy with one hull left.

EDIT: I am considering replacing the Academic TIEs with a Doom Shuttle, but then I would need to reference Vader in the name.

Edited by Jobu

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

Fel with shield and hull Upgrades, RG Title, and PTL. 37pts

Five academy pilots. 60pts

Edited by TheGreedyMerchant

Fel with Shield and Hull Upgrades, RG Title, and PTL. 37pts

Five Academy Pilots 60pts.

Call it "School's Out!" or "Field Trip".

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

With Fel it works. He uses his high PS and boost/barrel roll action to arc dodge and get in close. He then uses PTL to get a TL and a Focus. I do not know if you have flown a lot of X-Wings, but a TL and focus at range 1 is devastating. There are other options like TL, Evade, Focus if you are in the line of fire but think you can shoot down an enemy ship before they fire or Focus, Focus Evade if you want to turtle.

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

With Fel it works. He uses his high PS and boost/barrel roll action to arc dodge and get in close. He then uses PTL to get a TL and a Focus. I do not know if you have flown a lot of X-Wings, but a TL and focus at range 1 is devastating. There are other options like TL, Evade, Focus if you are in the line of fire but think you can shoot down an enemy ship before they fire or Focus, Focus Evade if you want to turtle.

Agreed. Fel with PTL/TC is a murderous bastard.

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

With Fel it works. He uses his high PS and boost/barrel roll action to arc dodge and get in close. He then uses PTL to get a TL and a Focus. I do not know if you have flown a lot of X-Wings, but a TL and focus at range 1 is devastating. There are other options like TL, Evade, Focus if you are in the line of fire but think you can shoot down an enemy ship before they fire or Focus, Focus Evade if you want to turtle.

Agreed. Fel with PTL/TC is a murderous bastard.

He may be, put I prefer shield and hull upgrades, with all the turrets floating around it makes it more likely he will not be blasted out of the sky in one bad roll for you or a good roll for your opponent.

I think you should add Tempest Squadron Pilot (x3). :P

100 points

30 points
Soontir Fel
Push the Limit
28 points
Turr Phennir
Push the Limit
21 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #1
21 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #2
Edited by Royals

I have run this Fel list a few times and it is great fun. Well, it is great fun for me at least.

Soontir Fel with Push the Limit and a Stealth Device

Howlrunner with Veteran Instincts and a Stealth Device

Scimitar Squadron with Assault Missiles

Academy Pilots x2

Baron Fel takes a flank and the mini swarm takes on the enemy head on. The Assault Missiles are to break up swarms or punish a swarm that sticks together.

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

With Fel it works. He uses his high PS and boost/barrel roll action to arc dodge and get in close. He then uses PTL to get a TL and a Focus. I do not know if you have flown a lot of X-Wings, but a TL and focus at range 1 is devastating. There are other options like TL, Evade, Focus if you are in the line of fire but think you can shoot down an enemy ship before they fire or Focus, Focus Evade if you want to turtle.

Agreed. Fel with PTL/TC is a murderous bastard.

He may be, put I prefer shield and hull upgrades, with all the turrets floating around it makes it more likely he will not be blasted out of the sky in one bad roll for you or a good roll for your opponent.

Just wanted to add, I agree with you on all the other Tie Interceptors but Fel, which is kind of sad that it came in Imperial Aces expansion.

Also if it fits your play style, then I am not going to disagree with you on not using TC on Fel. There is a lot of risk to running interceptors and an additional HP really helps mitigate that risk.

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

Focus + TL hits very hard. Soontir can pull that combo off nearly every turn.

TC is a wasted action on a squint.. I would never use it.. hull, or shield.. or both would be better, then go with some buzzsaw or bounty hunter fun.. or go the saber squads...

With Fel it works. He uses his high PS and boost/barrel roll action to arc dodge and get in close. He then uses PTL to get a TL and a Focus. I do not know if you have flown a lot of X-Wings, but a TL and focus at range 1 is devastating. There are other options like TL, Evade, Focus if you are in the line of fire but think you can shoot down an enemy ship before they fire or Focus, Focus Evade if you want to turtle.

Agreed. Fel with PTL/TC is a murderous bastard.

He may be, put I prefer shield and hull upgrades, with all the turrets floating around it makes it more likely he will not be blasted out of the sky in one bad roll for you or a good roll for your opponent.

I'll disagree with the TC crowd wvery day, I have Fell out of arc so much I dont have time to TL anything as I'm shooting ships up. I feel its a wasted 2 points..

You are free to disagree, but I keep him hyper mobile and I dont worry about it. A fast and mobile ship shouldn't be bogged down by anything that keeps him from moving. Just how I see I, and how I fly him.. I've been at this game since almost the beginning .. I think I know how to fly the Imperials..

BH + backstabber + Night beast = Baron's Focus. Great list. BH needs recon though.

Baron Soontir Fel in a red interceptor is the Red Baron:

Soontir Fel 27

+ PTL 3

+ Title

+ Shield Upgrade 4

+ Targeting Computer 2

= 36

What would you add to complete the list?

I've done well with that exact Fel with Vessery+HCL+VI and an OGP.

I'd say the TC should be standard equipment when running Red Baron. If you have a turn where you don't have much need for additional maneuvering to arc dodge spend an action to TL. Even if you don' t have a shot either set yourself up for a following turn. Maxing your damage potential is a good way to fight against naturally turreted ships since you can't really dodge them without taking away your own shots. Get in close to that Falcon and TL+Evade=free focus; put 4 hits on the hunk of junk and evade as much as you can in return fire. But for the love of Palpatine don't bump!

I've flown Fel with a RGP and a Shuttle to good effect. I forget what I had on them, pretty sure the RGP had PTL as well and I had an Ion Cannon on the shuttle. I'd fly the shuttle slow and have Fel and RGP haul @$$ to either rear flank or K-turn behind the opposition. I remember them doing particularly well against some turret carrying Y-wings and HCL+FCS B-wings. Y's couldn't hit anything besides the shuttle and B's never got a shot at anything but the shuttle.

Today, for the 1st time ever, i have used Fel+PTL+TC+Stealth.

...and I became a beliver (insert gospel chorus). He is amazing. Dancing around the map. Brilliant!!!