models are legal cross-faction. We have received confirmation that cross-faction Dials, base tiles, and cards are NOT legal. No word yet if the dials are the same, but it is likely that they are. So, cross faction dials are limited to social play, identical or not.

I can understand the dials part. they give you 2 Y-wings so that you can play with at least 2 scum-wings in your first squadron. True that having 3 rebel character models that you can't simply add to your rebel squadron makes sense as with the MW pack it is to start a S&V squadron not just be another rebel pack.

Now my plans with the MW pack (when it comes out around Christmas) would be to get a third Z-95 and maybe a 3rd Y-wing so I can use the MW ships as character ships to help me remember which ones are named pilots.

Wave 6 will probably come with the most amount of growing pains than any of the previous wave simply because of the new faction and now cross faction ships.

IMHO I still say allow S&V to act as mercenaries to the other 2 in a point restricted capacity (no more than 15 for squadrons with a total point value <60, 20 for 60-74, 30 for 75-99, 40 for 100+) so you would end up with 5 factions Rebel Alliance (pure Rebel) Rouge and Smugglers (Rebel with mercs) Scum and Villainy (3rd pure 3rd faction) CSA (Imperial with mercs) Galactic Empire (pure Imperial).

You have to wonder how many calls FFG customer services will get after 'most wanted' comes out from people who have 'lost' S&V dials and need a replacement

I reckon it will always be those pesky Z95 and Y wing dials that get eaten by the dog/fall down the drain/ left at a tourny....

As others have pointed out already, those extra dials will do exactly nothing for you without the cardboard bases and pilot cards to go with them.

Which you have.

Most Wanted comes with twenty pilot cards, and as you can only print two pilots per base, at least ten cardboard bases.

Two bases for Scumhawks, Two bases for Firesprays and at least three bases for Z-95 Headhunters and the Y-wings: likely four as MW comes with both a Y-wing and a Y-wing conversion set. As long as you don't try to fly two pilots who are printed on the same base you've got the cards and bases for far more ships than you have models. The restriction keeping you to two Zs, two Ys, one Scumhawk and one Firespray is the dials.

What I don't understand is why so many people here (who are presumably not FFG employees) are so eager to protect FFG's profit margins by enforcing rules that provide absolutely no benefit to the people who are actually playing the game.

That fact that you're too cheap to see the benefits doesn't mean they're not there.

Those benefits being aesthetic (a Scum player's dials are all uniform Scum dials) and simplicity. If you can only run the ships they provide dials for then the only component limitation is the ship model: Most Wanted comes with the components to run six ships. Allow cross dialling means that, yes, you can get a few more ship conversions out of Most Wanted, but you open yourself to a hornet's nest of component limitations that limits what you can do and influences what you can do. Want to run Emon and Boba? You can't because they're printed on the same base insert. FFG solves this by only letting you fly the dials you have, killing all the birds with one let's admit fairly profitable stone.

If you claim to have lost your dials FFG likely knows what you're up to and will send you the dials anyway, but then that's you opening yourself up to the confusions of MW's component limitations, not FFG opening their entire playerbase up to it.

You have to wonder how many calls FFG customer services will get after 'most wanted' comes out from people who have 'lost' S&V dials and need a replacement

I reckon it will always be those pesky Z95 and Y wing dials that get eaten by the dog/fall down the drain/ left at a tourny....

As others have pointed out already, those extra dials will do exactly nothing for you without the cardboard bases and pilot cards to go with them.

Which you have.

Most Wanted comes with twenty pilot cards, and as you can only print two pilots per base, at least ten cardboard bases.

Two bases for Scumhawks, Two bases for Firesprays and at least three bases for Z-95 Headhunters and the Y-wings: likely four as MW comes with both a Y-wing and a Y-wing conversion set. As long as you don't try to fly two pilots who are printed on the same base you've got the cards and bases for far more ships than you have models. The restriction keeping you to two Zs, two Ys, one Scumhawk and one Firespray is the dials.

lol I just noticing some slang terminology here. We got ScumZies, Scum-Wings, ScumHawks, however for some reason the Firespray is still respected. I think Scum Fet is probably the most derogatory term I heard for that ship.

firescum?

<sigh> So close to being a dead thread...

You have to wonder how many calls FFG customer services will get after 'most wanted' comes out from people who have 'lost' S&V dials and need a replacement

I reckon it will always be those pesky Z95 and Y wing dials that get eaten by the dog/fall down the drain/ left at a tourny....

As others have pointed out already, those extra dials will do exactly nothing for you without the cardboard bases and pilot cards to go with them.

Which you have.

Most Wanted comes with twenty pilot cards, and as you can only print two pilots per base, at least ten cardboard bases.

Two bases for Scumhawks, Two bases for Firesprays and at least three bases for Z-95 Headhunters and the Y-wings: likely four as MW comes with both a Y-wing and a Y-wing conversion set. As long as you don't try to fly two pilots who are printed on the same base you've got the cards and bases for far more ships than you have models. The restriction keeping you to two Zs, two Ys, one Scumhawk and one Firespray is the dials.

lol I just noticing some slang terminology here. We got ScumZies, Scum-Wings, ScumHawks, however for some reason the Firespray is still respected. I think Scum Fet is probably the most derogatory term I heard for that ship.

firescum?

I guess, but for some reason after reading this I want to do a Mobster impersonation with some Godfather music in the background.

​The Family always has business to take care of. Now often the Family do hire scum, after all that's what scum is for. You pay them a few bucks to do some work, and when you are finished with them you throw them out the door. However some jobs are a little more personal. In some operations are so serious you bring the family in, because you don't want no scum schmozzing it all away like some cheap booze. You see Boba here is like family because he always get the job done. So we only send him when it gets serious. So you don't go disrespecting the Family here, Capich.

Wow how are some of you lot not getting this,

The parts that are NOT cross-faction are the pilot cards and pilot base plates.

That's it.

Everyone be a better person than me and...

JUST STOP REPLYING TO THIS THREAD.

Kthx.

We can paint our ships so long as it's not considered offensive by the TO

Same goes for the dials.

So unless the scum ships have different dials to their reb/imp counterparts there is no problem

Everyone be a better person than me and... JUST STOP REPLYING TO THIS THREAD. Kthx.

No!

I'll reply to what ever thread that takes my interest thank you very much.

We can paint our ships so long as it's not considered offensive by the TO

Same goes for the dials.

So unless the scum ships have different dials to their reb/imp counterparts there is no problem

Not sure if Trolling, or just didn’t read the thread…….

If indeed you are not trolling then reading the thread would have informed you that you cannot use rebel dials for scum ships and vica-versa.

You cannot paint them to make them look different.

This has been mandated by FFG Designers <Citation Needed>

... and we're back to page 2 again. Good job!

This is turning into Choose Your Own Adventure style post.

This has been mandated by FFG Designers <Citation Needed>

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F114166-scum-and-villainy-most-wanted-expantion-question%2Fpage-2#entry1224252

Same goes for the dials.

So unless the scum ships have different dials to their reb/imp counterparts there is no problem

that's not really true. You can mark your dial so you can tell it apart from someone else's. Covering the face won't fool anyone, so if the TO isn't going to let people use the wrong dial they won't let you use those... So your taking the chance of being disqualified by bringing in dials that have the face covered.

This isn't a matter of opinion, it's the ruling that FFG has made, the only question is if the TO will enforce it or not.

There's also the very real possibility that you won't even be able to make the list you want due to lack of pilot base cards, which makes the dials the less of a problem.

How would a tournament judge if the dials are covered with the FFG Ace Maneuvers covers that are all for one faction (rebel or scum)? This way, you could have the two rebel and two scum z-95 dials in the appropriate faction ACE Maneuver covers. For purposes of this question, don't focus on the pilot cards and associated ship card. Assume for purposes of this question that only the dials question needs to be focused on.