Tycho Celchu, the poster child for stress management, (or insert pilot of choice here) already has a stress token when he reveals his maneuver dial showing he's banking right 3. His quarry had jinked left. Tycho chose the elite upgrade of Stay On Target, allowing him to change the dial to a left 3 instead, but that would be considered a red maneuver. According to the rules for stress, if you reveal a red maneuver while under the influence of a stress token, your opponent gets to change your dial to whatever he chooses. Can a pilot take advantage of the SoT if already stressed?

My thought is yes, but my opponent disagreed. Others?

You can use SoT when stressed. When you do, normal rules for revealing a red maneuver when stressed apply. So you hand your dial to your opponent. He selects a non-red maneuver for you.

It is a very bad idea. But if you really, really want to, you are entitled to do so.

You can use SoT when stressed. When you do, normal rules for revealing a red maneuver when stressed apply. So you hand your dial to your opponent. He selects a non-red maneuver for you.

It is a very bad idea. But if you really, really want to, you are entitled to do so.

Exactly! The rules won't stop you from doing it, but common sense might. You can boost off the map if you want to! ...but you probably wouldn't want to, lol.

Not to throw a wrench in this gear shaft, but isn't there a difference between revealing a red maneuver and treating a maneuver as a red maneuver? I don't think you opponent gets to adjust your dial because you technically didn't reveal a red maneuver, but you treat it as a red maneuver in terms of you get a stress, if you have a crit that interacts with red maneuvers, etc. I believe if you have Damaged Engines, you can still take your white turns while stressed, you merely suffer the consequences of a red maneuver and your opponent doesn't get to adjust your dial.

Not to throw a wrench in this gear shaft, but isn't there a difference between revealing a red maneuver and treating a maneuver as a red maneuver? I don't think you opponent gets to adjust your dial because you technically didn't reveal a red maneuver, but you treat it as a red maneuver in terms of you get a stress, if you have a crit that interacts with red maneuvers, etc. I believe if you have Damaged Engines, you can still take your white turns while stressed, you merely suffer the consequences of a red maneuver and your opponent doesn't get to adjust your dial.

No, this is not correct. Treating it as a red manoeuvre means that all the rules for red manoeuvres apply to it, including the one about your opponent picking your move. You don't get to choose which ones apply because some are more convenient than others.

Stay on Target is terrible for Tycho.

Rulebook (SWX36, SW:FA Rulebook), page 4: "A stressed ship cannot execute red maneuvers [...]"

If you reveal a green maneuver, BB-8 for a barrel roll, and then PTL or EI for a second action and thus receive a stress token you may not resolve Stay on Target as you must "Treat your maneuver as a red maneuver." (FAQ v4.0 updated: 12-21-15)

You are, by the Rules as Written, protected from having your opponent choose another legal maneuver to execute if you try to trigger events in this way. The same rule that states you cannot execute red maneuvers while stressed also states: "If a stressed ship reveals a red maneuver, the opposing player chooses any non-red maneuver on that ship's dial for that ship to execute." If we roll back time you revealed a green maneuver, ergo the opposing player may not choose any non-red maneuver on your ship's dial for it to execute.

And here is where it gets a little sticky: you cannot execute the now-red maneuver you've attempted to take with Stay on Target. As the start of the Stay on Target card reads: "When you reveal a maneuver, you may rotate your dial to another maneuver with the same speed." You have now assigned your ship an "illegal" maneuver and I suspect you will find most TOs will rule your opponent may set your dial to any non-red maneuver. That being said, I would not be surprised to see a ruling stating that you cannot trigger Stay on Target therefore you must go with the green maneuver you originally revealed.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/202225-stay-on-target-bb8/?hl=%2Bstay+%2Btarget

Yeah...I quoted myself...

So here's a fun thought:

Assuming you are permitted to trigger SoT and do so but are consequently told to hand your opponent your dial (as happens with any other form of illegal maneuver including no dial set) are all maneuvers other than your initial maneuver considered red still as per SoT?

So here's a fun thought:

Assuming you are permitted to trigger SoT and do so but are consequently told to hand your opponent your dial (as happens with any other form of illegal maneuver including no dial set) are all maneuvers other than your initial maneuver considered red still as per SoT?

I'm guessing the short answer should be YES which basically will mean that if try to use SoT while Stressed the ability just fails and you're back to doing whatever your dial revealed.

I'd argue that your opponent is not triggering SoT as they're selection of your maneuver is outside that instance, therefore any maneuver they set for you would be true to only the native color of that maneuver on the dial they're setting (modified by static upgrade and damage cards only). Your opponent choosing a maneuver is not part of SoT - it is an entirely separate methodology of resetting your dial.