Until I hear otherwise I am going to keep calling it a "Mango" cannon!
I don't think I'm ever calling it anything else.
Mango Cannon! by mbax, on Flickr
Until I hear otherwise I am going to keep calling it a "Mango" cannon!
I don't think I'm ever calling it anything else.
Mango Cannon! by mbax, on Flickr
I don't think it's a "Mangler" Cannon, I think it's a "Mando" Cannon. As in Mandolorian. In one of the clips for "Star Wars Rebels," a Stormtrooper says that a character is wearing "Mando armor," so abbreviating Mandolorian to Mando is apparently a thing in the Star Wars universe.
As for the Flechette Cannon, I hope it costs no more than 3 points. 4 would be uncompetitive.
Except you can see the G...So mangle makes much more sense then mango. Unless we are firing fruit at the enemy.
Have you ever smelt rotten mangoes? It'd give me stress!
So far the Torps/Missiles, Cannons, and Turrets have kept similar variants, or at least are trending that way. We have Flechette Torps and are getting a Flechette Cannon which gives stress. We have Ion Pulse Missiles, Ion Cannon, and Ion Cannon Turret, which cancel hits but give ion tokens.
I'd guess the "Mang(onel?)" Cannon is the cannon parallel to Concussion Missiles, allowing higher than average accuracy by switching one blank to a hit. And it will be cheap or expensive.
If cheap, either:
- 4 Dice Attack, allowing one blank to a hit, but restricted by range (say 1 or 2).
- 3 Dice Attack, allowing one blank to a hit, range 1-3.
If expensive, either:
- 4 Dice Attack, allowing one blank to a hit, only range 3 (Leaving the donut hole issue with the Outrider).
- It's just a super HLC with 2-3 range, but costs 10 points or something absurd like that.
Edit: Mangonels are historic siege artillery, so calling a devastating Range 3 only weapon a "Mangonel" Cannon would make some sense. Yes, I know this is a galaxy far, far away, but what's a "falcon" again?
Edited by RithrinIf expensive, either:- 4 Dice Attack, allowing one blank to a hit, only range 3 (Leaving the donut hole issue with the Outrider).
You may be onto something there, Rithrin. The formatting for the Mang(...) cannon is strikingly similar to Mercenary Copilot--suggesting that there is some condition that must be met when attacking
We can see:
"When att(acking)....
may chan(ge)....
[hit] result...
1. It wouldn't make sense for the first line to read simply "when attacking, you". So it most likely is range dependant. My guess is range 2-3 (in keeping with the long-range artillery theme).
2. (This is where I disagree with you (and my own earlier post)) the second line simply doesn't have the space to have "one of your blank results into a" so that can't possibly be it. For the same reason, it couldn't fit my earlier suggestion of changing a focus into a hit. However, "one of your" would fit pretty well. This suggests that you're actually changing one of your hits into something--a crit being the only sensible choice.
3. Similarly, the text on line 3 would be lopsided if it simply ended at "result" since we can see all of that word. So there must be more text there, further reinforcing that a hit is changed to a crit.
So I'm now leaning towards:
"When attacking at range 2-3
you may change one of your
[hit] results into a [crit] result."
See how that all fits nicely into a symmetrical bit of text?
So my revised guess is that it's attack 3, range 1-3 and includes the above text. If that's the case, how much is it worth? 5 points probably.
Or maybe it simply offers the crit at either range 2 or 3, in which case I'd say it should cost 3 points (if it crits at range 3), or 4 (if it crits at range 2).
And one final tidbit that may lend some credence to the idea that it is converting hits to crits rather than something else to hits, is it would be a big boon to Ten Nunb. FFG likes to include upgrades that give underused pilots something to get them on the field, and a cannon that offers crits consistently would be just the thing.
Edited by Sekac"When attacking at range 2-3you may change one of your
[hit] results into a [crit] result."
You think the MandaloMangoManglerManogel-Cannon produces a crit?
If so, Maarek would really need a cannon slot ;P
Yorr all forgetting about the best new cannon combo...
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Lambda flechette Cannon!
I'm going to guess it will be able to throw out like 6 stress in a single round by itself with some strange combo.
Outrider Flechette turret sees your Lambda Flechette double Tactician and raises you a gunner.
Outrider Flechette turret sees your Lambda Flechette double Tactician and raises you a gunner.
Gunner doesn't work with the Outrider title.
"When attacking at range 2-3you may change one of your
[hit] results into a [crit] result."
You think the MandaloMangoManglerManogel-Cannon produces a crit?
If so, Maarek would really need a cannon slot ;P
Yeah I think it has to. It's the only text that would produce 3 symmetrical lines. The other most common suggestion would look like:
"When attacking, you
may change one of your blank results to a
[hit] result"
There's simply no way that it's worded like that, as the second line is waaay too long. There's too many words required between the visible "may change" and the visible "[hit] result" for anything to be changed into a hit. Therefore, it must be a hit changing into something else. The only option is a crit.
So yeah, I think it'll be another missed opportunity for Maarek...
@ Danthrax, I originally thought it said Mando as well, however, on closer inspection you can clearly see a g in there for Mang....
@ Danthrax, I originally thought it said Mando as well, however, on closer inspection you can clearly see a g in there for Mang....
Hexis is right: it's clearly a Mango Cannon.
I don't think I'm ever calling it anything else.Until I hear otherwise I am going to keep calling it a "Mango" cannon!
Mango Cannon! by mbax, on Flickr
Fruitfly casual.
Edited by PhantomFO@ Danthrax, I originally thought it said Mando as well, however, on closer inspection you can clearly see a g in there for Mang....
Hexis is right: it's clearly a Mango Cannon.
It would still be effective versus TIE fighters, the imperial doctrine has little respect for the power of mangos and has seen fit not to equip particle shields on any of their fighter craft. ![]()
The best part of this expansion is you can now concede by flipping a "GG" token.
#SC2
I don't think it's a "Mangler" Cannon, I think it's a "Mando" Cannon. As in Mandolorian. In one of the clips for "Star Wars Rebels," a Stormtrooper says that a character is wearing "Mando armor," so abbreviating Mandolorian to Mando is apparently a thing in the Star Wars universe.
As for the Flechette Cannon, I hope it costs no more than 3 points. 4 would be uncompetitive.
Until I hear otherwise I am going to keep calling it a "Mango" cannon!
Mango cannon sounds like a delicious cannon. It would totally clear stress from ships.
Loving the 'double letter' target locks for when you've already got 26 locks on the go in a game ![]()
(i'm sure its probably to keep S&V ones looking a bit different or something like that... has anyone *ever* had a game with 26 simulataeneous target locks in the same area?)
Gunner doesn't work with the Outrider title.Outrider Flechette turret sees your Lambda Flechette double Tactician and raises you a gunner.
That, or that lambda can also tactician, and gunner. And FCS and other stuff. Lambda is still combo king. Decimated is nipping though.
Loving the 'double letter' target locks for when you've already got 26 locks on the go in a game
(i'm sure its probably to keep S&V ones looking a bit different or something like that... has anyone *ever* had a game with 26 simulataeneous target locks in the same area?)
I never had more than 6 on the board. Even on epic games.
On the other hand, I've seen 17 focus tokens on board in a single game round.
Ok ... how about this:
Range 1-3
Power 3
"When attacking, you
may change one of your blank results to a
[hit] result"
how many points this would be worth? 4 points? 5 points?
Extremely good on an attack 2 ship - but not so for an attack 3 ship...
Mango Cannon:
If you do not have any stress, take a stress token to load the Mango Cannon with Durian.
Mango Cannon:
If you do not have any stress, take a stress token to load the Mango Cannon with Durian.
"If this attack hits, assign one mango token* to the target ship." There will be a wave 7 named pilot who flies for the Hutts with a pilot ability that reads, "you are unaffected by mango tokens."
*A mango token is an actual mango. That ship cannot perform actions until the mango has been consumed.
Loving the 'double letter' target locks for when you've already got 26 locks on the go in a game
(i'm sure its probably to keep S&V ones looking a bit different or something like that... has anyone *ever* had a game with 26 simulataeneous target locks in the same area?)
I never had more than 6 on the board. Even on epic games.
On the other hand, I've seen 17 focus tokens on board in a single game round.
record for me is *four* on the same Tie Bomber in one 100 point game. Needless to say he didnt survive that joust....
There's only one man who would dare give me the mango ...

Loving the 'double letter' target locks for when you've already got 26 locks on the go in a game
(i'm sure its probably to keep S&V ones looking a bit different or something like that... has anyone *ever* had a game with 26 simulataeneous target locks in the same area?)
I knew a girl who did that to me once..nearly suffocated.
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Don't let compression artifacts cloud your vision! That's a D in that Mando Cannon, not a G!