So, what was the least popular starter from your meta?

I have to admit, Yi Shan got the short end of the stick here. Two people picked him up at the pre-release. Only one (me) got a second copy later on, and Yi Shan was the only starter available at our store as all the other ones had sold out.

Homme Chapeau said:

Ours was Ivy, after she flopped at our pre release nobody bought her.

Hell even Cervantes got bought.

Ours was Yi Shan.

Ragnar and Cervantes run a close second.

Ivy, Zi Mei, and Astrid all sold out.

Astrid,Zi-Mei and Sigfried seem popular with Ivy looking low.

A question how are pre releases usually handeled in most stores for UFS. It seems like a tough game to have a good limited format was wondering how it would be done.

Well...

I bought Yi Shan for pre-release and never lost to another starter. Siegfried matches two symbols, so he cries. Ragnar simply does not work out-of-the-box. Astrid did best, but my cards has better statz than hers. Ivy's pokes aren't as quick as my Tiger Claws and Dragon Punches. Simply put, Yi Shan is the best starter FOR PRE-RELEASE.

Having said that...

Zi Mei, IMO, is the worst starter. I bought her because I'm a fan, but I never once won wit her against other starters. She may have a 7 handsize, but the only thing that means is that she builds quicker. Her attacks are all balls, and besides attacking, her only momentum generation is a foundaiton that requires my attacks to have Multiples. Well, no ZI Mei starter attacks have multiple, so you have to tap 2 with Zi Mei, only to tap a 3rd to negate the multiple and get momentum. Yeah, Zi Mei out-of-box is absolute balls in a cup.

Obviously nobody bought Cervantes. Everybody knows Sieg-Night-Ivy, and us pro players know WHAT comes in them, so when it comes to Cervantes, he gets the shaft. We've sold out of Set 12, meaning SOMEBODY bought Cervy, but I'm sure they didn't want to lol.

Ragnar sold because viking is viking. But like I said, he does not work out-of-box. All opposing player needs to do is save some high blocks and mid blocks and theyr'e good; Ragnar's deck SHOULD be Throw-heavy, but I believe only has 4 total. Good luck.

That's pretty much the scoop on starters. I know for fact Nightmare was our most popular, but he simply was not good, as I think most people have already discovered. Nightmare off Death is likely your best bet to get access to Ragnar-Rasho throws, but that's about where his usage stops.

Ivy's fairly popular in my area. So far, I know at least three of us have Ivy decks. The others...less so. I dont see many of the other starter characters being used much. Astrid and Siegfried is about it.

I think Astrid is the best starter of the bunch for prerelease. She ramps up damage so fast it's ridiculous, and the fact ALL her attacks essentially have Reversal is a nasty little bonus when you include said damage bonus. Her prebuilt deck has a nice amount of draw too...and Pommel Smash.

MarcoPulleaux said:

I got Zi Mei for the pre-release, went undefeated and won the event. She does take a bit more thought than some of the other starters though.

Oh, and if you're on about Solitary Assassin, you can reduce your multiple rating AFTER playing the multiple copies. Figuring this one out helped a lot (and has since been ruled legit on the Q&A forum).

^Yup

I think you could also use her weapon to give something multiple, then take it off with Solitary, then use Zi Mei to put it back.

The irony of all this is that Yi Shan and Cervanties both have fixed starter rares that are completley indespensable (The thunderer and teh foundation for cervanties). I feel like every starter has at least one fixed card that is worth it with perhaps the exception being Ragnar, but then again I buy boxes because I typically want ALL the starter rares.

Protoaddict said:

The only reason that I didn't outright buy a starter box is because I was flat broke when the set came out (and with AN/Canadian Nationals, I still am!). BTW: Dragon Punch is almost indispensable in anything that packs the Thunderer. End a string with Dragon Punch and it goes to 20 damage easy.

But yeah, it really seems that nobody likes Yi Shan.

I think it's Yi Shan. i am the only person that got one...I like him

with the exception of me, everyone has bought the entire box of starters, not just a single one, and I've bought Cervantes as a joke and Yi-Shan cause I thought he was interesting...

I like the Cervantes starter a lot actually. Shadow Flare is crazy awesome, and some of the other cards are just solid. Yi-Shan is just beastly all around, and the other characters are all pretty good. I would vote probably... Ragnar as the least touched one here...

Zerker rage should have been a 2/5. It's already got a pretty hefty cost. Sad =/

our area has more or less stated (by most of our players) ragnar is terrible, the one player who was going on about how ragnar being a viking makes him awsome, put a deck together, then changed to starter sagat...

I actually really like starter Zi Mei alot more than the boring promo version

While I can see why someone might like him, I've got to agree that Ragnar does nothing for me. If he shared even one symbol with the Shadaloo Dolls then I'd maybe consider it, but other than Yuri's stuff, I don't think he has much of anything to counter-balance his hefty costs for damage pumps (read: vitality). What i like about the game is the different stategies and approaches that can be had, but I've always been of the belief that damage pumps without a way to push damage through are some of the less useful abilities. I wouldn't expect to go against a Ragnar deck that didn't come heavy with the throws.

Bah, people who don't like Ragnar don't like The Ways of Punishment >:|

Ragnar simply needs to draw. He's aggro, duh, but his F had single-handedly been the cause of an Ivy's demise (besides the obvious string of attacks, that, without F wouldn't have killed her at full).

Earth and Death have enough reasonable control, and I'd like to think maybe ,just maybe, Hugo's support could somehow benefit Ragnar.

Protoaddict said:

Wafflecopter said:

When the playset is as easy-peasy to get as that one? You're better off with it than without it. Also, the fun part with it is that it combos well with Billiard Player.

Homme Chapeau said:

Ingenuity FTW Hatman.

Also guys seeing as everyone's generally claiming the Ragnar deck's bad could anyone give us the deck list?

Me and my brother were thinking of buying them but now we're unsure so a Deck list would be appreciated! OR MORE IMPORTANTLY HOW MANY KA TECHNIQUES DO YOU GET?!!!!!

Bloodrunstrue said:

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Bloodrunstrue said:

Ragnar decklist

Characters: 2

2x **Ragnar** 6/6 +0-MID

Actions: 5

2x Berserker Rage 3/4
3x Sa, Symbol of Protection 2/5 +2-MID

Attacks: 21

2x Body Slam 6/3 +2-MID [Throw]
4x Cleave 5/3 +0-MID
2x Sandstorm Throw 5/3 +2-MID [Throw]
2x Crushing Embrace of the Jotun 5/3 [Desperation: 4] [Throw]
3x The Pharaoh’s Crown Strike 5/2 +2-HIGH [stun: 1]
2x Relentless Assault of Set 4/3 +2-HIGH
3x Shield Breaker 4/3
3x Backhanded Axe Slash 3/3

Foundations: 32

3x Fury of the North 3/5 +3-MID
3x Zhao Family Discipline 3/5 +3-HIGH
2x Might Makes Right 3/5
3x Jealously-Guarded Secret 3/5
3x Master of Magic 3/5
3x In Search of Plunder 2/5 +3-MID
2x Ka Technique 2/5 +3-MID
3x Strength of Ages 2/5
2x Iron Body Technique 2/5
2x Undisputed Ruler 2/4
2x Lives for Battle 2/4
4x Brooding 1/5 +3-HIGH

My bad on the Ka Technique

Bloodrunstrue said:

The problem with Ragnar is that he absolutely NEEDS Stormhammer. You can probably play him without it, but it gives him such an edge that it would be silly not to.

on that note though...

Chaos Flare + Stormhammer + any throw = +58 damage to a throw.

quarzark said:

Chaos Flare actually has to deal damage =/

But like I said, Ragnar + The Ways of Punishment...

MarcoPulleaux said:

Oh no, otherwise it's a +29 throw, whatever shall we do?