Loosing Icon Struggles

By Hybrid, in CoC Rules Discussion

Please pardon if this question has already been addressed.

At a glance I didn't find an answer in the rule books, faq or rules discussion.

With a card like,

2 Vengeful Hit

Disrupt: After you loose an I struggle, choose

a character with an I icon, remove that

character from the story it is commited to, then

exhaust it if it is not already exhausted

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I am assuming that in order for a player to 'loose' a particular icon struggle

said player must have a character commited at the story

during that struggle. Or not?

You can 'Win' (ooops, I meant unloose) an Icon struggle if you are unchallenged at a story, so it should follow you can loose it if you are not there.

"Then" indicates that it must be committed to a story to trigger the conditional part. Uncommitted, floating free, just hanging out, otherwise in the field of play, unstorified, swinging single, undeckdiscardhanded characters need not apply, whatever language you find most clear.

Note, that the card says you can remove a Character from the story it is commited after you lose an I struggle, but this struggle can be from another story.

You lose an I struggle in story 1.
You choose a character commited (one of yours or one of your opponent) in story 1, 2 or 3.
You remove it.
You exhaut it.

I'm agree with Donald, but it's strange to lose a struggle if you don't commit characters in the story, so I'm agree with you Hybrid too.

What's the official rule ?

Maybe my question was unclear because I'm a bit confused by your answer, what does 'then' have to do with it?

I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories

during the icon struggles? Donalds' reasoning is uhhh.... reasonable but it would be nice to have an

official ruling, please? It's not a huge issue but depending on the call 'Vengeful Hit' can go from

'okay' to 'not worth a plug nickle'!

johnny shoes said:

"Then" indicates that it must be committed to a story to trigger the conditional part. Uncommitted, floating free, just hanging out, otherwise in the field of play, unstorified, swinging single, undeckdiscardhanded characters need not apply, whatever language you find most clear.

Q: "I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories during the icon struggles?"
A: Yes

(but it is spelled "Lose")

Thanks for your input!

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chicklewis said:

Q: "I'll rephrase, can a player loose icon struggles even though he has no characters commited to stories during the icon struggles?"
A: Yes

(but it is spelled "Lose")