Trading items--any phase?

By Octoparrot, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

It's not clear from the FAQ if trading items between investigators can take place outside of the Movement phase ("before, during or after movement"). A loose interpretation would suggest this. On the other hand, I recall the Coded Messages condition card lets you trade Clues like items but only during the Movement phase, so it wasn't clear if the card was to imply that all items could only be traded during the Movement phase.

I'm just wondering since the Innsmouth rules FAQ section explicitly makes clear you must flee/engage in combat with an on-board monster during the Arkham encounter phase, in the event you get a "go to another Arkham location and immediately have an encounter there" encounter. So if the editor of the newspaper drives me to the Woods, and my fellow investigator has hidden from the Ghost there, can he give me his Cross before I execute the flee/fight sequence with the Ghost, even though it's technically the Arkham Encounter phase and NOT the Movement phase?

You wouldnt engage in combat with the monster at that point anyway. Combat only occurs during an encounter phase (Arkham or Otherworld) as the result of an encounter card. IF you just happen to end up in an area with a monster during the encounter phase you don't have to deal with it until the following movement phase. It is kind of like how monsters sometimes move on top of you during the Mythos phase during their movement, you don't deal with them until your following movement phase. As far as trading items you can do it in any phase that you're not in combat, and can even do a drive by handoff, say someone is in the streets as you're passing them during your movement you could hand them something, you don't nessicarily have to end your turn in their space. Hope that answers your question !

Hmmm, I just went and looked at that FAQ in the Innsmouth rules you were talking about and it looks like I'm mistaken. I guess now we're resolving those monsters just as if you had ended a movement phase there. As far as your original question I don't think there would be any problems having another investigator trade with you pre combat.

Vaxsythrakul said:

Hmmm, I just went and looked at that FAQ in the Innsmouth rules you were talking about and it looks like I'm mistaken. I guess now we're resolving those monsters just as if you had ended a movement phase there.

Thing to note is the IH FAQ bit is a straight copy-paste of an older FAQ (1.2 IIRC), which has had that particular question overruled by Kevin W (look for it in the KW's answers thread). New people gonna get nicely confused with oldies telling them that rule has gone X to Y to X (as of current IH version). Personally, I think it's just lazy editing.

Yeah I'm confused now, so many rules / errata, clarifications, official rulings to keep track of heh :P

Vaxsythrakul said:

Yeah I'm confused now, so many rules / errata, clarifications, official rulings to keep track of heh :P

As far as I know, Innsmouth's FAQ about encountering monsters when moved to a new location is wrong .

The last such ruling I remember was that if an encounter moves you to a new location, you do not deal with the monsters there. Monsters on the board are only encountered during phase 2. This probably holds true for picking up clues as well, but that has not been officially clarified yet.

That's good to know, since we won a game by using the "go to another location & have an encounter" encounter to avoid fighting the monster on the way in and get through a gate to seal it barely in the nick of time. However, what about the trading items question? If I get something during Arkham Encounter phase, or Upkeep (like money from a spell), can I trade it during that phase, or only during Movement phase?

Tibs said:

Vaxsythrakul said:

Yeah I'm confused now, so many rules / errata, clarifications, official rulings to keep track of heh :P

As far as I know, Innsmouth's FAQ about encountering monsters when moved to a new location is wrong .

The last such ruling I remember was that if an encounter moves you to a new location, you do not deal with the monsters there. Monsters on the board are only encountered during phase 2. This probably holds true for picking up clues as well, but that has not been officially clarified yet.

::Shrug:: I'm going to follow the Innsmouth FAQ, seriously, how many times can FFG print this ruling before it's official? Besides, you *can* encounter monsters during phase three (i.e. "a monster appears").

That's why I said "monsters on the board." I am keen to turn order.

And you're right. I don't know how many times they can print it and still have it be "wrong." It's now a battle between simplicity
(board monsters only handled on phase 2) or theme (are the monsters at the woods really going to ignore the bird watchers' car?).

What we need is that rumored Mega-FAQ. Yep.