Hiyas all,

Long time no chat since the old forums.

Anyhow, my group finished off RtL. It... was an interesting path, but the world just didn't flesh out all that well, as everyone wanted a bit more RPG in the game. I thought about one potential fix, but it would require a bit of a makeover for a few various game aspects.

I am a huge fan of Warhammer quest and have been playing that game fairly religiously for 19 years now, and think of Descent as the spiritual cousin of that game. Warhammer Quest had one thing going for it that the Descent world is lacking, and that it just pure background. Everything is very generic, while the Warhammer world has almost 30+ years of fluff built up about the various races and heroes/villians of the world. I would love to be able to put a RtL campaign together, but have it situated completely in the Warhammer world.

Now there are some major differences in Warhammer then in Descent, such as the races being VERY Xenophobic. The standard allies are the High Elves from the Island kingdom of Ulthuan, the Dwarves from from Worlds Edge Mountains, the Wood Elves, and the various kingdoms of men (Brittonia and the Empire), and even those allies most team up out of need rather then want. You compared that to the Descent heroes though and you have Minotaurs, Lizardmen, Elves, Humans, ect. Best idea I thought of would be to recreate all the current Descent heroes into Warhammer World equals. Might be alot of work, but at least then the basic tone of the game would remain roughly the same in that regard.

Another difference is obviously that the RtL campaign takes place in a much different land scape then one of the current kingdoms of Warhammer. I figure I would have to create multiple maps, showing various lands, with roughly same aspects found on the RtL board. The ratios might be different, but the layout should end up more or less the same. Going to be rough though coming up with minimum two new maps, and potentially a world campaign map.

Now story lines are simple enough to come up with, but the lieutenant's would need a few makeovers. Some of them fall easily into certain aspects, like the Fallows matching Warhammer's Von Carstein vampire count family. The other enemies might end up being Orc warbosses, or Chaos commanders. Same thing would need to be done to represent the Overlord, make one of the possible Overlords a Vampire Count, another a Chaos general, and the other be an Orc warlord, ect. Once again, this would require multiple revisions to represent the various places the heroes may find themselves fighting and have enemies matching that terrain.

Monsters are more or less the same, as most of those monsters exsist in some form in the Warhammer World so wouldn't be to hard to get that portion to work.

Now the other aspect, is the fact I am more then tempted to get all new miniatures, as the new heroes would have a different scale then the Descent minis which are much smaller then standard 28mm, which also means monsters will become much smaller as well. Between Games-workshop miniatures and Reaper Minis, I believe I can replace everything is roughly same aspect ratio minis. Thankfully, I won't need 200 different forms of skeletons, and 5 different kinds of demons, so pirce of replacing the miniatures shouldn't be to over the top.

So that is more or less my general plan moving forward. I might make this a project log and keep posting updates as I go. We'll have to see.

As to another topic, I thought FFG was supposed to be coming out with their own character creator program as well as dungeon maker. Reason I bring this up is the fact that the dungeon maker they have linked is long time dead and outdated, and was outdated before these new forums came online. Is there any updated roaming around I might have missed during my time away?

Ok, that should be enough rambling from me for the moment. I'll check in on this thread later, and keep updated as I go.

I really think your trying to compare apples to oranges. I think you are rather unfair to Descent and its world to try and compare it to a world that has had such a lengthy existience and been given the time for the mythos to grow. Descent has its own mythos that can also be found in Runebound. I see Descent as a very different beast and love it for what it is. If you want Warhammer Quest (which it sounds like you do) then why not just play Warhammer Quest and save yourself the trouble of trying to retool Descent which would only cause problems mechanic wise. Heck if you want more of a RPG feel then play Warhammer Fantasy Role Play. It just seems silly to try and cram a square into the hole where a triangle goes.

I can follow you a long way Golembane. I've been thinking of replacing the minis as well with the more detailed warhammer minis. Though lack of coin and time has put that off. I'm a little sad that Descent didn't have a background booklet or something. Hopefully a friend of mine will dive into Runebound, and we can get a grip of it there. Best of luck with it. And if you keep this as a diary, I'll chime in from time to time to be certain.