So i have two questions here because ive made a really sick nasty zhao deck but they way she is worded means that she doesnt exactly work like i think she was intended to....

1st question is does she really work the way shes supposed to? her ability reads R: after your opponent Removes any number of cards from the game they lose 2 life....

so does that work if your the one removing the cards or no?

and the second question is on two deadly rings technique does the abitily count both cards as seperate removing or is it the same trigger and you can react more then once(assuming it works like it should)

Two deadly rings reads: E: if this attack deals damage remove the top card of your opponents deck from the game, if its an asset remove another card from the top from the game

It actually has already been asked and ruled that she does work with her stuff even though you are the one doing the removing. Search for her name and you will find it.

Stamp.

As for two deadly rings, if you remove an asset you remove another card, and that's final. No more removing. you can't remove more than that 2nd card.

Tag, I think the Two Deadly Rings question was, "Can Zhao respond twice (for double burn) if two cards get discarded?" (one from the effect, one from the conditional secondary effect).

Oh, I'd say it's two separate removals.

If it's seperate, wouldn't you continue removing assets until a non asset is revealed?

If it's seperate there's two effects generated. And if the second part is a seperate effect there's no reason it would only go off once.

aslum said:

No. Its sorta of like the Re-Check a control check thing. The card reads something like "Remove the top card. If it is an asset, remove an additional card"

You are reading it "Remove the top card. If it is an asset, repeat this effect".

You remove 1 card. This sets up a floating effect that triggers if the revealed card is an asset. If it is an asset (or even if its not i guess, lol) no new floating effect gets setup

My point is to be able to react to it twice it has to be two seperate effects. For example if your opponent had to discard 4 cards for some single reason, you can't react w/ ZD 4 times to make your opponent lose 8 life. It's one effect, one trigger, you can only respond once.

I take it you don't disagree with that.

Given the above, if they are seperate effects, then second effect would keep triggering each time an asset was removed.

a) One effect, one asset removed max, one ZD response.

b) Two effects, no max on assets removed, ZD can respond each time.

You can have it one way or the other. Both make sense to me, but mixing them fails to work on a logical basis.

Aslum: There's no point where this effect becomes recursive and starts removing more cards. If it hits, remove 1. Zhao triggers at the same time as the 2nd conditional. If the removed card was an asset, remove 1 more. That 2nd card is not examined in any way. After it is removed, Zhao triggers again.

There's absolutely nothing in that card's text that says it should remove another card. That doesn't make sense. The conditional is only on the first card discarded, no longer applies to the second.

Big difference between discarding 4 cards, and discarding 1 card 4 times.

With 2DR you remove one card. Then remove one card. You do not remove 2 cards simultaneously. You can definately respond in the middle of effects.