And after Arcane AP revealed that well, FFG should hire a 6 years old or two to proofread Cthulhu cards, as a world premiere:

THE VERY FIRST MISTAKE SPOTTED IN "SKILL" AP

The Spawn of Madness F99

Response: after you succed at a story at which you were opposed, UNDRAIN all domains in play.

Now, I would have used REFRESH but why bother with keywords. Let's have an exception based design party. New suggested gaming terms:

Restore = UNINSANE

Ready = UNKNELL

Drain = UNREFRESH

Shuffle = UNSTACK

Unbelieveably LAME !

Chick

these typos are getting worse every pack. i hope the dreamlands set gets it right

It would be nice if someone official would please acknowledge our concerns

and reassure the community that correcting the deficiencies will be a priority.

It'd be nice if someone official acknowledged the death of Black Border, the cheating at last year's World Championship and all the play testers for the last block of cards. "Don't hold your breath, it will turn you blue."

"Zanned"- Nice turn of phrase there, Carioz.

It's extra funny 'cause Marius uses refresh in his little article for the 'Undrain' card.

Still having log in problems.....

Donald

Now, I'd love to see some classics "Nate Edition":

Deep One Assault

Cost X Event

Loyal

Action: Assault target character or support card. It gets killed.

Bust of Hypnos

Cost 3 Support

Item

Action: Sacrifice Bust of Hypnos to stack your graveyard and your grimoire. Then shuffle them.

A time to reap

Cost 1 Event

Action: Refresh all domains in play.

Fluff text: The wrench and the plumber tools? My former girlfriend wanted me to unbreak the clogged undrain.

Carioz, I agree with pretty much everything you say, but I hope you are not FEELING as bitter as you sometimes sound .

Chick

In my forty years, I've seen a steady decline in our ability to write. I am a big fan of all the official updates and spoils when they come...always unedited. And they are not someone's thesis, so I always cut 'em some slack. After all, the knowledge of the game and its tactical history is always brilliant and shines through. But I am troubled. Let's take it further and print an illustration upside down like the one hundred Inverted Jenny upside down airplane stamps of 1918.

And it seems that it would be SO easy to fix. Marius has something of an 'insider' status, and, in spite of being Dutch, writes gloriously correct and elegant English (or maybe Marius has a well-educated American girlfriend who edits his every post ?) In addition, he has a very deep understanding of the game. Emailing the 'FINAL' card texts to Marius for review before releasing it to the printers would take only a day or two round-trip.

Chick

Does anyone at FFG even read these threads? if not we should put together something and email them our concerns. cause this is getting beyond laughable with these typos.

johnny shoes said:

Don't. Like all games, this game is dependent on clearly written rules and exact wording on the cards. The people making it should be able to work within the rules they created and keep their own terminology straight. Abilities that work because Nate says they do with no reference to rules and just plain wrong card text isn't going to help a new player and only makes the game look bad. Several warnings about the card language was sent with the play testing notes, their is no reason for errors like this to slip through.

Donald

chicklewis said:

Not bitter at all, actually I'm having a rather sophomoric hearthy laugh each time:

1) A speeling mastake appears on a card, double points if it is in a spoiled card, triple points if it goes clearly against the rules;

2) Anyone posts unsubstantiated "facts" like "ZOMG Jump and Messengers cannot be beaten regularly the game needs ultrabannings" -expecially after a way (or five) to beat them regularly has been posted-

3)I hear the phrases "Poker Effect", "Commitment Tricks", "Surprise Move" and "Leave a domain open as a bluff"

4) Sadly not available anymore but each time Marius went on with: "FFG will do anything to avoid set rotation" I lol'ed hard.

Heck, where not alcool laws pretty strict over here I could meta a FFG COCLCG Boards Driniking Game.

Carioz said:

Very sad.

Why are "Poker Effect", "Commitment Tricks", "Surprise Move" and "Leave a domain open as a bluff" bad phrases?

As much as I like the new term, how are we sure it shouldn't be "Zahned?"

Kennon said:

Nate says so.

ignore the flavor text...nothing to see...move along there.....

just for the record, I coined "Zanned."

Indeed Johnny Shoes did. But it was too awesome to pass it up and not steal it.

Carioz gives us UNINSANE, UNKNELL, UNREFRESH, and UNSTACK, all excellent coinage. As with Zanned, I desperately hope we don't have much opportunity to use them going forward...please.

I found it pretty funny Nyarlazorbec had corrected some of the text errors in his newest version of the excellent deckbuilder. The game's main designer can't do it, but a guy who doesn't even play the game can. And I'm sure most of the people playing the game could.

PS. Wrong thread, I know, but thanks to Nyarly for his software.

"Does anyone at FFG even read these threads? if not we should put together something and email them our concerns. cause this is getting beyond laughable with these typos."

Actually it was "beyond laughable" about a year ago. Its now entered la-la land absurd. But I digress.

*WHY* should FFG do anything (serious question)? This group of players have shown they are indifferent to game quality in every way. Most of the current players are buying because of the distribution model. FFGs goal is to make money. The more they lower the quality the more they make. Under normal market conditions companies worry about balancing quality and profits. But if your lucky enough to have a group of customers that either are unable to judge quality or are indifferent to quality then you *should* push quality to the lowest it can go.

I really have to laugh because it's not just quality - there is a certain amount of disdain shown for COC. The previous playtesters even mailed in the errata/text fixes and Nate couldn't be bothered to highlight the text column group - hit control C - highlight the master - hit control V (5sec operation). Of course the card quality has become an unfathomable joke (I used to refer to the cards as garbage because they were situational and restrictive, but looking at the most recent cards I am at a loss to come up with a fantasy scenario where some of these cards would be mildly useful in) - and yet we still have rubes that generate the standard 4-5 "seems powerful" or "good card" comments on each pack (what is the intellectual criteria for "Good Card" BTW). Just scanning over the last packs released, I can write a VBA app that scans an excel worksheet and makes cards with a button push that can replace Nate. I'll even sell it to FFG for a few hundred bucks...we can hire a 6yr old to scan through the current HPL story and enter the current story's relevant card titles into the spread sheet so VBA can pick it up . At $2 a word I`m sure he will spell better than Nate does.

- alternatively I can just scan old sheets and mish-mash old titles together to make new ones (something Nate clearly does..Ghoulish Thrill seeker anyone?). I`ll guarantee we still get "good flavor" comments - and FFG can mass produce cards at will. I`ll also suggest Playtesting should be dropped completely, and also they should consider just merging the key words from AGOT to COC so Nate can just copy AGOT cards and change the names (I see this is already happening without the word merge)...I doubt the current rubes will notice any difference worth making a fuss over, let alone boycotting future sets till the problem is fixed.

Hi Graham,

I understand you might be sad, feel unconfortable with boarders, ligue format, anything you like... But I clearly disapprouve when you tend to critize the players who want their game to keep going and try to share enthusiasm to the whole community.

I'm proud to be one of the guys you refer to as silly players who are not able to understand how pitifull the card are ... I'm not going to be agressive or something else, but this one is the heaviest.

Of course, I know you are an old gamer and I respect that, but try to show the same respect to the people who did'nt earn your experience yet. You don't have to ask people to create scientific ratios to explain why they find a card good or not. Just argue your opinion with them and it should be fine. Why being meany ? You can't forbid us from saying that we found the cards nice. As long as you want us to read your post, you'll have to respect our opinion too, neglegting our right to play this game too.

I'm interested in your whole strategy to show how some cards were broken and so ... this kind of thread has a clever attitude, as you tend to refer to tests, maths and strategy. That's sweet.

And saying players are not interested about quality is a wrong way : just remember how most of the players reacted... But we had to do with this if we want to keep playing. You can say whatever you want as long as you keep respect for the community you're sending posts on board's.

You said you've been away for Three months, so how can you judge stuffs like the card value or the opinion of the players. just reading spoils and that's all. I won't say that is a scientific test. Try them, and you'll see that even if some of them might seem useless, most of them are welcome in a LCG environment. You're reacting as if everything was better before FFG tends to changes the games from the Niche case to the Casual game.

Can you please try to see the light side of this problem ?

I'm sure there is something unspeakable beside this, as an Old One should say, but please, avoid using words such as "unable to judge quality", "standard 4-5 "seems powerful" or "good card" comments on each pack (what is the intellectual criteria for "Good Card" BTW). ", "I'll garantee we'll see ..." , which drive us contempted.

Now, I don't want to be offensive or anything else, but I would gladly share opinions with you, if you want to go further ...