Making Talisman Adventure type cards now possible with Strange Eons

By talismanisland, in Talisman

This is the coolest!

The only problem is the spell cards are too small to fit all my type. The game has a big spell card that fits more type. Can I use the big spell card or is this option not available yet?

Any chance of getting a runebound card generator program?

If you type something that takes up more space than is available, it switches to the big version automatically. Unless there is some other "big spell card" that you are talking about. Which is possible—I don't own Talisman—but I think Jon would probably have mentioned it.

Cheers,
Chris

@JC - The character cards are standard FFG Revised 4th Edition size. However, you should be able to scale them on printing or with a bit of tinkering you can always adapt the extension to create 4th Edition style cards.

@Chris - There are only standard Spell cards with "long" and "short" versions. Perhaps DM didn't realise that both templates are included in the extension, but are automatically selected depending how much text you type in.

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Excellent summary, Jon!

And great work on the program, guys - I really look forward to churning out cards again! happy.gif

... and here is an example that shows some of the different text variations that can be used in a card.

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... and if you want a particular expansion icon rather than a plain card, just select from the menu and it shows the icon with the required background.

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I'm mulling over where we can take this in the future, but any changes will probably not be for a while as it is just about done. Possibly adding a couple more macros for Armour and Weapon , though this is hardly a huge problem to do without a macro. Possibly adjusting the text box limits over so slightly . The biggest idea would be to amend the code to allow for the other Talisman editions.

If there is anything you want for your own specific needs, then it is possible to edit the extension yourself. The Strange Eons has a plug-in authoring kit which is worth a long slow look at, or with a bit of patience you can figure out how the extension does things and alter them accordingly.

Talisman, Alignment, Toad and Reaper cards were not added as it is not really necessary to edit these at all. You will also notice that Purchase and Treasure cards are limited in the Types you can use due to the nature of these cards.

The base extension will be updated as more is added to the game, but if you think anything has been missed out or requires changing then just let me know, either here or via email etc.

I love this. It makes making cards very easy.

The problem is trying to get the wording to match the base game. To keep the same standard. and not to name printing them.!

But very nice. aplauso.gif

Very nice, Jon! You and you comrades have done and excellent job, and many will enjoy the benefits of your efforts. aplauso.gif

I'm wondering Chris, can You program the SE somehow, so I'll (we) will be able to use another symbols and characters besides English? I mean for example Polish characters like: a, e, s, c, n, z, z . Among all of them only l and ó are working. Not to mention but <infinity> tag is not working as well..

EDIT: And that forum engine hates Polish characters as well <_<

Nemomon said:

I'm wondering Chris, can You program the SE somehow, so I'll (we) will be able to use another symbols and characters besides English? I mean for example Polish characters like: a, e, s, c, n, z, z . Among all of them only l and ó are working. Not to mention but <infinity> tag is not working as well..

EDIT: And that forum engine hates Polish characters as well <_<

SE handles Polish characters fine; the problem is that the fonts used for Talisman cards are missing Polish characters (and the infinity symbol, and the en dash...). Various SE translators and I have added many different characters to the fonts for Arkham Horror, but if you look at the font used for titles on investigator cards you'll see that this hardly takes much talent. It would take someone with more typographic design skill than I have to extend the Talisman extension fonts.

Cheers,
Chris

HI,

Really need some help. Downloaded the programe fine, already making cards. Its probably very simple but can someone explain to me the easiest way to print several cards on one sheet of paper. I cannot find an option to do it in the programme, do you have to export? And if so whats the best way to do it then?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Sorry please ignore the above, just found solution.

Thanks

Thelric said:

Nemomon said:

I'm wondering Chris, can You program the SE somehow, so I'll (we) will be able to use another symbols and characters besides English? I mean for example Polish characters like: a, e, s, c, n, z, z . Among all of them only l and ó are working. Not to mention but <infinity> tag is not working as well..

EDIT: And that forum engine hates Polish characters as well <_<

SE handles Polish characters fine; the problem is that the fonts used for Talisman cards are missing Polish characters (and the infinity symbol, and the en dash...). Various SE translators and I have added many different characters to the fonts for Arkham Horror, but if you look at the font used for titles on investigator cards you'll see that this hardly takes much talent. It would take someone with more typographic design skill than I have to extend the Talisman extension fonts.

Cheers,
Chris

Would be nice, if You would do something with the Fonts. Or hire someone. SE is a great program for making the cards, however many foreign (or maybe I should say International) users would like to create cards in their native language too. Anyway, I also would want to report the bug about "Z" letter. While the text box is fine, if we put that letter in the card title box, it's changed to another letter. In the Polish we have 3 different kinds of "Z" letter:

- normal Z

- ctrl+Z

- ctrl+X

"Z" that appears in the card title box actually is a "ctrl+Z" instead of "normal Z".

Nemomon said:

Would be nice, if You would do something with the Fonts. Or hire someone. SE is a great program for making the cards, however many foreign (or maybe I should say International) users would like to create cards in their native language too. Anyway, I also would want to report the bug about "Z" letter. While the text box is fine, if we put that letter in the card title box, it's changed to another letter. In the Polish we have 3 different kinds of "Z" letter:

- normal Z

- ctrl+Z

- ctrl+X

"Z" that appears in the card title box actually is a "ctrl+Z" instead of "normal Z".

I'm afraid that I don't have the typographic design skill to do a credible job of extending the fonts myself. As for hiring someone, I'm not sure where you think that money would come from or why I should be the one to pay it. I write SE myself, in my spare time (several thousand hours of it). I give it away for free. I helped Jon write this extension to support Talisman, which is also free. There are no ads on my web site. I don't work for FFG nor am I sponsored by them or any other company. I don't even own a copy of Talisman! (Although it does look fun.) So there is no money coming from anywhere to pay for font designers, unless you are offering to raise and/or donate it.

But all is not lost. If the Polish Talisman community wants ogoneks and kreskas, then someone from within the Polish community will take on the task of creating them. SE supports, to varying degrees, some 8 languages for Arkham Horror. That happened because players of those languages volunteered their time and skills to make it happen. So, spread the word in the Polish community and perhaps people will come forward to make it happen.

As for the Z issue with card titles, that's just the way the designer made the plain, unaccented Z look. The designer thought it would look cool with a crossbar, without considering that the crossbar might have meaning in other languages.

Cheers,
Chris

@Nemo

I know you have been playing with the files, so it should be easy for you to change some stuff around!

The Talisman plugin uses a Caxton "clone" called Grammateus, as Caxton is a payfont. The WIndlass included is just the standard version with the letter R swapped about to use the same one that FFG do.

One of your countryman has already made Polish versions of the official fonts, so it would only be a matter of changing a few bits and pieces around in order to make things a little more friendly for you.

I got the tool downloaded and it works pretty cool ... my only question (and its a big one) ...

Where the heck do I go or what do I need to know to make images for these cards? Im a total noob to all this stuff but I am dying to create my own stuff. I see the shadow warrior character created and I totally want to find and put in a different image and make cards. I don't know how to though.

Any help would be appreciated ... thx :)

Getting there with another extension...

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Malthule said:

Where the heck do I go or what do I need to know to make images for these cards?

That's a really big and touchy question. IF (and only IF) your are NOT going to distribute your cards, then you can usually use any image you can find and like on the internet. IF you are going to place your cards on the internet in any way for acquisition by others... do not use the property of artists without permission. For that, you will need to come up with your own illustrations, or learn to manipulate and edit (or compose from pieces) Non-Commercial Use, Copyright Free, and or Public Domain images.

Doing cards for distribution takes proper effort to do so legally and ethically. Otherwise, you can be sued and charged in multiple countries, and you risk getting others in trouble who host or download your creations.

Retro Talisman fans should be happy soon... (95% there!!!)

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3rd Edition 99.9% done, so I started on this... one day soon I may get some sleep...

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Long time visitors to Talisman Island might remember this "happenin' dude"!

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...and last night...

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There is a bit more tweaking to be done, then I hope to upload these to Talisman Island over the weekend. Probably...

Jon, if you have chance, can you explain a little about how SE distiguishes between the two formats of an Adventure card (4ER), small image or large? And does it automatically adjust is the description text grows too long? And if so, is this something that is scripted into the plugin itself?

It is selected automatically by the plugin based on the actual length of the text used.

Currently the plugin defaults to 80 pixels as it makes the cards look a little better and you don't have to worry too much about the encounter jewel in the bottom right being oversized.

Funnily enough, today I have been tweaking my own copy of the plugin and have made the text areas larger and the font used a little smaller and it now moves up after 108 pixels.

I have adjusted the font used from size 7 to 6.7 and the "S" used in Strength from size 10 to 9. This gives you -

Small text area - 7 lines of text or STRENGTH setting plus 5 lines.

Large text area - 10 lines of text (11 with slight reduction in text size) or STRENGTH setting plus 9 lines.

The only disadvantage of automatically shifting to the large text area is that some smaller cards might benefit from just using a slightly compressed font if the overspill is only a couple of words. You can actually disable the resizing, and there is a quick 'n' dirty way to do that, but I won't go into that here.

I've also added another tag for cards that use Strength AND Craft,