We are clearly just joking, cant you tell?

Course, we were also told by FFG flat out

"no big ships". And we got the tantive

"Rebel and empire only" and we got scum

So as time God on, who knows what we will get. I still hold on hope for a star destroyer, who cares if we need a flatbed truck to move it... Or if it s a 6x3 game mat....

When did FFG make those declarations? Where can I see or hear it myself?

Pre wave 3, during a panel discussion, and in some of the interviews done at trade shows. I don't want to send the time searching for a link, but you're welcome to do so, or maybe someone else can point you to them.

I believe the faction question was in the same QA session that ended with people having a chance to guess the U revealed 4th wave 3 ship.

The no large ship quote was a little sneakily done, and is not a direct quote. That came up a couple times, but was pre-tantive announcement and pre wave 2, when people were expecting to call the falcon a medium ship - they became "large ships". later, the transport was released as a huge ship, and skirted their previous statement of no big ships. (Hence sneaky) if this wasn't in that same QA it was in one of the interviews done at worlds, possibly in FFG's own cast or recap video.

I was just kidding. I even wrote it in the original post.

Course, we were also told by FFG flat out

"no big ships". And we got the tantive

"Rebel and empire only" and we got scum

So as time God on, who knows what we will get. I still hold on hope for a star destroyer, who cares if we need a flatbed truck to move it... Or if it s a 6x3 game mat....

When did FFG make those declarations? Where can I see or hear it myself?

Pre wave 3, during a panel discussion, and in some of the interviews done at trade shows. I don't want to send the time searching for a link, but you're welcome to do so, or maybe someone else can point you to them.

I believe the faction question was in the same QA session that ended with people having a chance to guess the U revealed 4th wave 3 ship.

The no large ship quote was a little sneakily done, and is not a direct quote. That came up a couple times, but was pre-tantive announcement and pre wave 2, when people were expecting to call the falcon a medium ship - they became "large ships". later, the transport was released as a huge ship, and skirted their previous statement of no big ships. (Hence sneaky) if this wasn't in that same QA it was in one of the interviews done at worlds, possibly in FFG's own cast or recap video.

I provided evidence. I'd like to believe you, truly, but I'd need a link to an interview video or something.

I'm not gonna' lie, if I were one of Disney's writers and had a hand in any of the books I'd make **** sure prequel stuff was seen in use by The Rebellion.

Just to end arguments like this. Some people still use Mosin Nagants.

Of course you would. You like them. A lot of people find them hideous* and would rather they be buried. Fortunately, FFG has stated what their position on the matter is.

* The N-1 is a glitter mosquito and the ARC-170 is an awkward, 6-winged insect.

Glitter mosquito? That sounds cute.

Of course you would. You like them. A lot of people find them hideous* and would rather they be buried. Fortunately, FFG has stated what their position on the matter is.

* The N-1 is a glitter mosquito and the ARC-170 is an awkward, 6-winged insect.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sketto

You mean kind of like the sketto right

is all I could find at the moment, 26 minute mark has the "are you considering other factions" question - with the general answer of right now its set up perfectly for the rebels and the empire. - this isn't a certain "no, never" but it may be the origination of that belief, though I am pretty sure in one of the later inflight reports (the one where wave 4 was announced?) or a seperate "interview" with one of the FFG employees ( probably from gencon or worlds) is where the faction question comes up again and is shot down with a No.

I can't pinpoint where the large ship question is - It's likely in the wave 2 announcement era - there's a lot of videos to wade through, and it was 2-3 years ago now, so I'mma gonna give up looking.

Thanks, I appreciate the effort, but even you admit they aren't saying there won't ever be other factions. According to this evidence, they haven't changed their mind on anything. I am curious if they ever did about factions or big ships, but would like to see the evidence myself.

If the game hadn't blown up then it would of probably stayed two factions they couldn't of known it'd get so popular so fast.

So they didn't deny additional factions and weren't trying to play coy, but just offer the best info at hand: just two for now.

Does anyone have any evidence to back up Bipolar Potter's claims? I think he abandoned them when I asked for for some evidence.

But couldn't Oh we won't make a prequel game be construed as the same coyness?

At this point, may I recommend adhering to Wheatons law dude?

But couldn't Oh we won't make a prequel game be construed as the same coyness?

At this point, may I recommend adhering to Wheatons law dude?

I don't understand your first "sentence".

You may recommend and swallow your own pill. There's nothing Wheatonish about pointing out that FFG said they won't introduce the prequel movie ships into the GCW game, except that you want them to. That's the only thing Wheatonish about it, and I only bring it up when you guys go on and on and on about it, just to remind others what the official position is.

I'll explain my first sentence if I must.

Isn't the quote your position is hanging on to "oh we won't make a prequel game".?

Not making a prequel game doesn't mean not adding prequel ships to an existing game.

My bottom line in the argument for the prequel ships is that they could conceivably be used in the setting, would they be a priority? No, not while there isn't an alpha class XG-1 Star wing in the game. But they should be in the game for at least some function, as should ships like the Vigo in galaxies.

There is always room to expand the game, and eventually I believe it is truly inevitable that prequel ships will slip in, whether anyone likes it or not.

My own personal position is that I'd like to see pretty much every possible ship in the game at some point minus the NJO crap (by which i mean the vong) (which frankly makes the prequels look like sistine chapel levels of work of art in comparison).

With ships like the K-wing and YV666 being desired, as well as the prequel era Gozanti (though the latter being in rebels gives it a more likely position) I see no reason why the prequel ships shouldn't be included in at least some capacity.

I am very fond of quoting Clarkes 3rd law, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That law has a good place in star wars but isn't relevant here - except to remind us of Clarkes 1st law.

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

It's probably going to happen despite what anyones said.

I'll explain my first sentence if I must.

Isn't the quote your position is hanging on to "oh we won't make a prequel game".?

No. The quote is the original post of this thread. The line is, "More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward".

Not making a prequel game doesn't mean not adding prequel ships to an existing game.

Correct, but that's not what I claim or what FFG's CEO stated. Man, where have you been?

My bottom line in the argument for the prequel ships is that they could conceivably be used in the setting, would they be a priority? No, not while there isn't an alpha class XG-1 Star wing in the game. But they should be in the game for at least some function, as should ships like the Vigo in galaxies.

There is always room to expand the game, and eventually I believe it is truly inevitable that prequel ships will slip in, whether anyone likes it or not.

My own personal position is that I'd like to see pretty much every possible ship in the game at some point minus the NJO crap (by which i mean the vong) (which frankly makes the prequels look like sistine chapel levels of work of art in comparison).

With ships like the K-wing and YV666 being desired, as well as the prequel era Gozanti (though the latter being in rebels gives it a more likely position) I see no reason why the prequel ships shouldn't be included in at least some capacity.

I am very fond of quoting Clarkes 3rd law, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That law has a good place in star wars but isn't relevant here - except to remind us of Clarkes 1st law.

• When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

It's probably going to happen despite what anyones said.

And this is why I keep doing what I do. Despite what FFG, the designer and producer of the game, states is their intention, you and small faction of die hards not just believe otherwise--which is totally cool--but you keep reminding us constantly. And when you do, expect me to be there to also remind you and everyone else what FFG actually said.

That's fair. Mine is a belief that despite what is said it's almost inevitable that at some point the prequel ships will be implemented in some form. Is it as likely as TFA ships being implemented? God no, (despite them being set some 40 years later and probably needing entirely new factions which shouldn't ever be played with the old ones) but at some point someone is gonna go "Hey, prequel nostalgia, cha-ching".

Until the game and it's expansions go out of print despite anything that is said there is always a reasonable chance.

This can be said for any ship/faction. Yes, even Yuuzan vong turdskippers.

Anything else that can be said is moot compared to this.

The bottom line is that this debate can be boiled down to my cynicism (more so than hope - I like the prequel ships but my hope is for almost every ship in the universe) vs your stoic belief it would seem that they are not.

What I view as inevitable you see as impossible.

Clarkes 1st rule man.

The best we can hope for is that they are done awesomely.

I'll add that there is a topic asking "how many waves should x-wing have" currently trending on these forums, which kinda goes into my viewpoint entirely.

I'd be happy with every ship in the verse and 4 different time periods. (KOTOR, Clone Wars, GCW and TFA) with each faction adequately represented in each. Until these don't happen, there is no telling that they won't happen, and each period would be kinda cool.

As asked in the other thread, would you care to wager that for the inclusion of the N-1 or ARC-170 into the current version of XMG?

How would you wager it? It exists as a possibility until the game goes out of print.

Thought so. Just pick a reasonable date if you're so confident (and it seems you're not). If they're so iconic, FFG's CEO will change his mind sooner than later. Or do you suggest that they will be the very last wave, scraping the bottom of the barrel just before closing the game production?

Thought so. Just pick a reasonable date if you're so confident (and it seems you're not). If they're so iconic, FFG's CEO will change his mind sooner than later. Or do you suggest that they will be the very last wave, scraping the bottom of the barrel just before closing the game production?

If I were a gambling man sometime between 2019-2021 based on my previous comment about the prequel 20th anni.

TPA waves i'd reckon will come first. HOWEVER I stipulate this bet that if TPA waves do not appear within the next 24 months we won't see prequel, as clearly x-wing will be narrowed to the GCW era alone.

There are ships way down in the barrel past what the prequels gave us. You'd be a fool to believe otherwise. Wasp shaped shuttles, coralskippers, the k-wing(sorry guys, it looks like crap).

I do expect we'll see the XG1, T-wing, R41, a couple of galaxies ships and the hounds tooth first. That just makes sense.

If the game gets to Wave 10, I'm guessing that will be prequel ships.

What d'you reckon - we ask for a stickied pool on when prequel ships will appear?

I think 10 is a little overconfident.

We've got the XG-1, Gozanti, a couple more aces sets, at least 2 scum waves, the R-41 and T-wing and TFA first.

I think wave 7 will be the TFA stuff, and that it won't be released and available until Christmas. I think Wave 8 will feature stuff from EU and possibly Rogue 1, or you can reverse those. Wave 9+, I don't even have an educated guess, but I would suppose by wave 10 we will either have prequel ships or they will never be released. Disney is releasing a Star Wars movie a year. It will be all FFG can do to keep up once that really gets rolling. So, my guess will be we will get them before wave 10 or not at all. Personally, I don't much care either way, I enjoy my Mel's minis N-1s and stuff, and if I want to home-brew things, I can.