I will still hold on to the hope that they release at least SOME prequel/clone war ships.
I still think if they are considering sequel ships then they should really have to include prequel ships as well, but that's my opinion.
It's good to wish for the things you want, but important to maintain realistic expectations. While FFG has made it clear they're not interested at this time, they obviously reserve the right to change directions later.
I still think if they are considering sequel ships then they should really have to include prequel ships as well...
I'm curious why you think that way. Is it just because you want prequil ships, or is there some sort of logic behind this?
Not flaming or anything, I'm just curious why, because in my mind, I see no correlation between the two, why does including Eps 7 and beyond ships require that they include eps 1-3 and CW ship?
Is that Dr. Doom?
I know the character was an inspiration for Vader... ... but to throw him into artwork... this is weird, guys.
I still think if they are considering sequel ships then they should really have to include prequel ships as well...
I'm curious why you think that way. Is it just because you want prequil ships, or is there some sort of logic behind this?
Not flaming or anything, I'm just curious why, because in my mind, I see no correlation between the two, why does including Eps 7 and beyond ships require that they include eps 1-3 and CW ship?
It is partly because I want those ships, but also because it doesn't make sense to me to include the sequels and not the prequels.
They both take place in distant times from the current "era" they keep referencing. But the sequels are actually FURTHER away from this era than the prequels are. EP 7 is supposed to be about 30-35 years after ROTJ, whereas ROTS is only 19 years before ANH - that's a 10-15 year difference. If the sequels were taking place less than a decade after the OT then I'd see the point, but they aren't.
As I and others have pointed out several prequel ships are still in use during the OT era, just like some ships in the game already such as the firespray or z-95.
So in summary, right now yes they are in a certain era, which is about 5 years +/- the OT period, as evident by the inclusion of the E-wing and soon possibly Rebels ships. If they want to stay in that era more power to them, but once they go down the road of adding sequel ships, the idea of a set era is gone and prequels should totally be fair game.
They both take place in distant times from the current "era" they keep referencing. But the sequels are actually FURTHER away from this era than the prequels are. EP 7 is supposed to be about 30-35 years after ROTJ, whereas ROTS is only 19 years before ANH - that's a 10-15 year difference. If the sequels were taking place less than a decade after the OT then I'd see the point, but they aren't.
You hear that the teacher approved a student's topic on the First Gulf War, so you approach the teacher and say you should be allowed to do a paper on World War I since it's closer in time to World War II than the First Gulf War. What do you think the teacher's response would be?
Edited by z0m4dI think a better analogy would be if FFG for some reason decided to release one or two scum huge ships, but no imperial huge ships.
People who have been wanting the imperial huge ships would wonder why this is, but FFG is in their right to include whatever they want in the game and we can't stop them.
Let's assume you were taking a class on US History from World War II to Present. You're required to write a paper on a major event after the topic is first approved by the teacher. Even though it's not in the period covered by the course, you really want to write your paper on World War I.They both take place in distant times from the current "era" they keep referencing. But the sequels are actually FURTHER away from this era than the prequels are. EP 7 is supposed to be about 30-35 years after ROTJ, whereas ROTS is only 19 years before ANH - that's a 10-15 year difference. If the sequels were taking place less than a decade after the OT then I'd see the point, but they aren't.
You hear that the teacher approved a student's topic on the First Gulf War, so you approach the teacher and say you should be allowed to do a paper on World War I since it's closer in time to World War II than the First Gulf War. What do you think the teacher's response would be?
I would assume the teacher would say "generally I wouldn't allow such a thing, but I have before and your topic sounds pretty awesome". You know... pretty much exactly what the FFG CEO said.
Let's assume you were taking a class on US History from World War II to Present. You're required to write a paper on a major event after the topic is first approved by the teacher. Even though it's not in the period covered by the course, you really want to write your paper on World War I.They both take place in distant times from the current "era" they keep referencing. But the sequels are actually FURTHER away from this era than the prequels are. EP 7 is supposed to be about 30-35 years after ROTJ, whereas ROTS is only 19 years before ANH - that's a 10-15 year difference. If the sequels were taking place less than a decade after the OT then I'd see the point, but they aren't.
You hear that the teacher approved a student's topic on the First Gulf War, so you approach the teacher and say you should be allowed to do a paper on World War I since it's closer in time to World War II than the First Gulf War. What do you think the teacher's response would be?
I would assume the teacher would say "generally I wouldn't allow such a thing, but I have before and your topic sounds pretty awesome". You know... pretty much exactly what the FFG CEO said.
I doubt most teachers would let that slide, and yet again that's not at all what the FFG CEO said. He said, "More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward."
I was trying to help you understand. Maybe I was doing a poor job explaining, or maybe you're having a hard time grasping it. More likely, however, you simply refuse to accept a reality that you've long believed just couldn't possibly be true.
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Why does everyone immediately jump to N1s.
Because they're the Jar Jar Binks of spaceships? (That Victory-class in the other thread notwithstanding.)
I really don't get that. You think the N-1 is worse than the flying AT-ST head and the Space Vibrator ? The N-1 actually looks like something that might be functional.
Well, those two aren't from the Jar Jar Binks movie, are they?
And as I have pointed out in the past, Jar Jar binks never flew any ships so won't be seen in this game as a pilot and would be unlikely even as a crew card. Your argument is like saying that you don't like the singer in Jabba's palace, therefore we shouldn't have any S&V ships because that character just ruined the movie for you. The whole point is that however much you liked or disliked a character is irrelevant. It is the ships that matter and to a lesser extent the pilots.
And as I have pointed out in the past, Jar Jar binks never flew any ships so won't be seen in this game as a pilot and would be unlikely even as a crew card. Your argument is like saying that you don't like the singer in Jabba's palace, therefore we shouldn't have any S&V ships because that character just ruined the movie for you. The whole point is that however much you liked or disliked a character is irrelevant. It is the ships that matter and to a lesser extent the pilots.I really don't get that. You think the N-1 is worse than the flying AT-ST head and the Space Vibrator ? The N-1 actually looks like something that might be functional.Why does everyone immediately jump to N1s.
Because they're the Jar Jar Binks of spaceships? (That Victory-class in the other thread notwithstanding.)
Well, those two aren't from the Jar Jar Binks movie, are they?
Except the cgi singer and the music number is from the special edition, jar jar wasn't added in he was there from the start.
Plus the jizz music scene at jabbas palace was a few minutes jar jar was in the prequels for so much longer...
Plus the jizz music scene at jabbas palace was a few minutes jar jar was in the prequels for so much longer...
You meant jazz music, right?! :^)
I would assume the teacher would say "generally I wouldn't allow such a thing, but I have before and your topic sounds pretty awesome". You know... pretty much exactly what the FFG CEO said.
I doubt most teachers would let that slide, and yet again that's not at all what the FFG CEO said. He said, "More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward."
I was trying to help you understand. Maybe I was doing a poor job explaining, or maybe you're having a hard time grasping it. More likely, however, you simply refuse to accept a reality that you've long believed just couldn't possibly be true.
Or you know, the fact that you don't actually know anything about me...or what I consider reality.
Here's a tidbit: I AM A TEACHER. And know MANY. That would totally fly. New standards care a lot more about your skill in writing, your thought processes about a topic, and your ability to communicate those thoughts and ideas. I read quite well and your very bold topic heading was ill supported by your transcription and the one alteration you made for emphasis was a small detail that happened to fit what you have defended as your reality. You left out the following points that weaken your argument.
Or you know, the fact that you don't actually know anything about me...or what I consider reality.I would assume the teacher would say "generally I wouldn't allow such a thing, but I have before and your topic sounds pretty awesome". You know... pretty much exactly what the FFG CEO said.
I doubt most teachers would let that slide, and yet again that's not at all what the FFG CEO said. He said, "More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward."
I was trying to help you understand. Maybe I was doing a poor job explaining, or maybe you're having a hard time grasping it. More likely, however, you simply refuse to accept a reality that you've long believed just couldn't possibly be true.
Here's a tidbit: I AM A TEACHER. And know MANY. That would totally fly. New standards care a lot more about your skill in writing, your thought processes about a topic, and your ability to communicate those thoughts and ideas. I read quite well and your very bold topic heading was ill supported by your transcription and the one alteration you made for emphasis was a small detail that happened to fit what you have defended as your reality. You left out the following points that weaken your argument.
Well, at this point we seem to have no more common ground and will have to agree to disagree. I can live with that.
This basically means Gozanti Imperial huge.
Plus the jizz music scene at jabbas palace was a few minutes jar jar was in the prequels for so much longer...
You meant jazz music, right?! :^)
No I don't check Wookieepedia the music in the cantina and jabbas palace is called jizz music.
And as I have pointed out in the past, Jar Jar binks never flew any ships so won't be seen in this game as a pilot and would be unlikely even as a crew card. Your argument is like saying that you don't like the singer in Jabba's palace, therefore we shouldn't have any S&V ships because that character just ruined the movie for you. The whole point is that however much you liked or disliked a character is irrelevant. It is the ships that matter and to a lesser extent the pilots.
I really don't get that. You think the N-1 is worse than the flying AT-ST head and the Space Vibrator ? The N-1 actually looks like something that might be functional.
Why does everyone immediately jump to N1s.
Because they're the Jar Jar Binks of spaceships? (That Victory-class in the other thread notwithstanding.)
Well, those two aren't from the Jar Jar Binks movie, are they?
Except the cgi singer and the music number is from the special edition, jar jar wasn't added in he was there from the start.
Plus the jizz music scene at jabbas palace was a few minutes jar jar was in the prequels for so much longer...
And this ladies and gentlemen is how you miss a point. By a lot.
I don't hate the prequel ships, but I feel they are worlds apart from the original trilogy ships.
They prequel ships all look shiny and brand new, sleek and very modern-day sci-fi like, while the prequel ships really represent the "used-universe" look.
Also, not that it matters too much, but continuity is nice to preserve too.
The whole shiny/brand new look really only applies to the naboo ships, pretty much everything else was just as "used" looking as the OT.
This basically means Gozanti Imperial huge.
That would be cool.
The "shiny vs junker" argument was defeated ages ago via the explanation that the prequel is set in an era of peace and wealthy commerce. Even within the first movie we see the difference of classes when the J-type lands on Tatooine all shiny and they walk into the grungy dust ridden town full of beat up junkers. It's good storytelling to show how the rest of the universe changes or was different along it's timeline. Particularly when there's a two decade difference. As Obi-wan said himself the lightsaber was a "weapon from a more civilized age." Say the same thing about the N-1 or the ARC and it's still a true statement. And if you look real close every tiefighter in the OT is utilitarian looking, but there isn't a scratch on them. Not even the Lambda looked like it had been out of the driveway more then once a week. And are we all just selectively forgetting the polished floor on the Deathstar hangar? You want to tell me there's a continuity issue now? :/
They weren't THAT clean, they were just brightly lit, I've seen a bunch of the original ship models when they came for museum tours and none of them are even vaguely shiny and clean.
Isn't the goal of the Rebel force to bring “BACK” the Republic?
Didn't many of the Rebels, fight for the “Republic”.
I can see the Rebel using prequel ships. I can see the Empire using them also. I can see Prequel ship being open to all factions.
Also there were many battles between the Republic and the Separatists. Which means any Scum and Villainy and Scavenger, could just scavenge old battle fields and rebuild many prequel vessels. If I wanted to keep my presence a secret, I would buy some prequel vessels, and use them so not to be traced back to my faction.
Just a thought I had.
Isn't the goal of the Rebel force to bring “BACK” the Republic?
Didn't many of the Rebels, fight for the “Republic”.
I can see the Rebel using prequel ships. I can see the Empire using them also. I can see Prequel ship being open to all factions.
Also there were many battles between the Republic and the Separatists. Which means any Scum and Villainy and Scavenger, could just scavenge old battle fields and rebuild many prequel vessels. If I wanted to keep my presence a secret, I would buy some prequel vessels, and use them so not to be traced back to my faction.
Just a thought I had.
Rebels is not Prequel:
Star Wars Rebels is an upcoming CGI animated series produced by Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm Animation. It is set 14 years after Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith and 5 years before Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, in a time which the Galactic Empire is securing its grip on the galaxy and hunting down the last of the Jedi Knights as a fledgling rebellion against the Empire is taking form.
Isn't the goal of the Rebel force to bring “BACK” the Republic?
Didn't many of the Rebels, fight for the “Republic”.
I can see the Rebel using prequel ships. I can see the Empire using them also. I can see Prequel ship being open to all factions.
Also there were many battles between the Republic and the Separatists. Which means any Scum and Villainy and Scavenger, could just scavenge old battle fields and rebuild many prequel vessels. If I wanted to keep my presence a secret, I would buy some prequel vessels, and use them so not to be traced back to my faction.
Just a thought I had.
Rebels is not Prequel:
Star Wars Rebels is an upcoming CGI animated series produced by Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm Animation. It is set 14 years after Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith and 5 years before Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, in a time which the Galactic Empire is securing its grip on the galaxy and hunting down the last of the Jedi Knights as a fledgling rebellion against the Empire is taking form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Rebels
I can see where the confusion is. But I'm not talking about the "Rebels" animated series. I'm talking about the Rebel forces in episode IV: A New Hope, episode V: The Empire Strikes Back and episode VI: Return of the Jedi. In X-Wing, they are the Rebel Alliance. They destroyed the Death Star, Twice. That who I'm talking about.
Putting together a Prequel ship is like rebuilding a Ford Mustang Model A. You fly around the Galaxy looking for parts.
"400 credits for that. Are you crazy? It's all rusted! I'll give you 100 no more!"
"Squeak growl growl Squeak squeak burp Click"
"Hey. that wasn't nice!"
