I hope we get Rebels and Prequel ships alike just to shut the can.

I'm sorry, that seems unlikely, according to what Christian Peterson said.

Oh I don't even want it out of likelihood anymore. I just want either so I can cackle madly at this point. I don't get a chance to thumb my nose at things but the more resistance to it I hear, the sweeter it would be.

So you've already gone back to being a ****? I mean that apology thread wasn't that long ago.

Are you trying to start crap?

I hope we get Rebels and Prequel ships alike just to shut the can.

I'm sorry, that seems unlikely, according to what Christian Peterson said.

Oh I don't even want it out of likelihood anymore. I just want either so I can cackle madly at this point. I don't get a chance to thumb my nose at things but the more resistance to it I hear, the sweeter it would be.

So you've already gone back to being a ****? I mean that apology thread wasn't that long ago.

Are you trying to start crap?

You cant tell?

I wholeheartedly believe, whether it draws the slander or disapproval of any other, that it is something of a tragedy that the Prequel Trilogy draws so much rhetoric level hate that the rest of the fans who love the entirety of the Saga get hedged off to the side. I have been a huge supporter of this game and am part of a local community that every member of which has at least one thing they want out of the first three episodes and we'll never get it because there's enough mudslinging on it to make it a hot potato topic that few companies would risk handling. One of my friends I hang out with regularly and have taught X-wing to and enjoys it quite a lot would LOVE to get into the game. But he won't. Because, and he has said numerous times, he only will Invest in it if they print the N-1! Friend 'X' wants the old style Y-wing because he's a car freak and to him it's like a old classic car. He just wants it for the model. Friend 'Y' wants the Jedi Starfighter. Etcetera and so on. I want The ARC 170 and LAAT/i Troop carrier. But we'll never get them as it stands.

Instead the original-trilogy-only-Star-Wars-fans want to make us pick up an entirely separate game as a 'Spin-off'. Did you all forget that the final missions of the Star Wars Battlefront 2 Campaign had the Imperial Stormtroopers of the 501st fighting against Droids in one mission, and a renegade Clone Trooper army in another? There is canonical precedent for inclusion. Beyond that in every single discussion I've read in a forum or had face to face, every argument brought to bear against the inclusion of Prequels, ranging from inconsistent technology, to time-line distortion, to something as irrelevant as the movies computer graphic quality itself, has been either defeated, or been concluded in stalemate as the prosecution against inclusion has stubbornly refused to withdraw. And I get involved with one of those arguments every week at our FLGS alone. You all should know how bad these discussions have been for the community. Frankly the whole situation sucks.

Thank the Force at least we'll get stuff out of 'Rebels' as that show looks like a ton of awesome.

I hope we get Rebels and Prequel ships alike just to shut the can.

I'm sorry, that seems unlikely, according to what Christian Peterson said.

Oh I don't even want it out of likelihood anymore. I just want either so I can cackle madly at this point. I don't get a chance to thumb my nose at things but the more resistance to it I hear, the sweeter it would be.

So you've already gone back to being a ****? I mean that apology thread wasn't that long ago.

Are you trying to start crap?

You cant tell?

Guys, this isn't relevant. Take it outside.

So by "settled" you mean "exactly as before".

FFG makes Star Wars ships into miniatures

FFG really likes "cool" ships that fit the game

All prequel ships are Star Wars

Many of the prequel ships are cool

All of them would fit in this games design space and era

FFG has already and will continue to make "Pre-OT" ships

I think the only "new" thing that is "settled" is that FFG has more Intellectual Property to call forth than some believed.

So by "settled" you mean "exactly as before".

FFG makes Star Wars ships into miniatures

FFG really likes "cool" ships that fit the game

All prequel ships are Star Wars

Many of the prequel ships are cool

All of them would fit in this games design space and era

FFG has already and will continue to make "Pre-OT" ships

I think the only "new" thing that is "settled" is that FFG has more Intellectual Property to call forth than some believed.

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

I'm paraphrasing here: "unless there is cool stuff from before that period that fits our design space, especially it it appears in Rebels or new sources too".

So yah...nothing changes.

I'm paraphrasing here: "unless there is cool stuff from before that period that fits our design space, especially it it appears in Rebels or new sources too".

So yah...nothing changes.

My interpretation was that it would have to be the dawn of the Civil War (Rebels is 5 years prior to Episode IV) and would have to blow their socks off for them to even consider it. So yes, it changes everything. Prequel ships are out, unless those ships show up in the Sequel or spin-off movies.

I hope we get Rebels and Prequel ships alike just to shut the can.

I'm sorry, that seems unlikely, according to what Christian Peterson said.

Oh I don't even want it out of likelihood anymore. I just want either so I can cackle madly at this point. I don't get a chance to thumb my nose at things but the more resistance to it I hear, the sweeter it would be.

So you've already gone back to being a ****? I mean that apology thread wasn't that long ago.

Are you trying to start crap?

You cant tell?

Guys, this isn't relevant. Take it outside.

Well that wouldn't be fair would it I'm six feet tall and grew up in an area where people fighting in the street doesn't even raise an eyebrow let alone a call to the cops.

Do you want him hurt physically? Perhaps we should discuss this desire to see living creatures hurt, with proper counselling and medication we can get you past this and back to normality.

Guys, this isn't relevant. Take it outside.

Well that wouldn't be fair would it I'm six feet tall and grew up in an area where people fighting in the street doesn't even raise an eyebrow let alone a call to the cops.

Do you want him hurt physically? Perhaps we should discuss this desire to see living creatures hurt, with proper counselling and medication we can get you past this and back to normality.

No, I obviously don't want anyone hurt physically. I meant outside this thread, though it was also a cheeky double entendre. No bickering, please. It's a polite request.

Guys, this isn't relevant. Take it outside.

Well that wouldn't be fair would it I'm six feet tall and grew up in an area where people fighting in the street doesn't even raise an eyebrow let alone a call to the cops.

Do you want him hurt physically? Perhaps we should discuss this desire to see living creatures hurt, with proper counselling and medication we can get you past this and back to normality.

No, I obviously don't want anyone hurt physically. I meant outside this thread. It was a double entendre. No bickering, please. It's a polite request.

Request denied!

*becomes twelve again* besides he started it!

we're going to throw in some new content with the new cartoon set in that era.

How can this be read any other way than "we are making ships from rebels"?

we're going to throw in some new content with the new cartoon set in that era.

How can this be read any other way than "we are making ships from rebels"?

Doesn't seem to be any other way, though he follows up by saying that it'd have to be awesome for them to take a hard look at incorporating it into their future plans. Seems somewhat contradicting. Either way, Rebels is the start of the Galactic Civil War, and not Prequel era.

we're going to throw in some new content with the new cartoon set in that era.

How can this be read any other way than "we are making ships from rebels"?

We already know they will make new ships based off ANY new Star Wars IP that fits design space and hits the "cool factor".

Again, we already knew this, now we just know that thier liscense does indeed cover more than the civil war era, even if GENERALLY ships will be from that era forward and there are already plenty of ships in the game from Pre-era. If anything there is more evidence that they will be open to "prequel" ships; they just aren't as closed minded to label them as "prequel ships" or ignorant enough to believe that suddenly all the really cool, popular, and powerful toys from the last war will magically disappear.

we're going to throw in some new content with the new cartoon set in that era.

How can this be read any other way than "we are making ships from rebels"?

Exactly.

We already know they will make new ships based off ANY new Star Wars IP that fits design space and hits the "cool factor".

Again, we already knew this, now we just know that thier liscense does indeed cover more than the civil war era, even if GENERALLY ships will be from that era forward and there are already plenty of ships in the game from Pre-era. If anything there is more evidence that they will be open to "prequel" ships; they just aren't as closed minded or ignorant enough to believe that suddenly all the really cool, popular, and powerful toys from the last war will magically disappear.

My friend, believe what you wish, but I think you're in denial.

Rebels is not Prequel:

Sounds like we have at least 4 different era definitions for a ~20 year or so period. Sounds like some people are carving things up to meet thier preferences...I would argue that those mitt be the ones in denial here.

Rakky Wistol, tell me what you think about this statement from the FFG CEO:

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

What does that mean to you?

I hope we get Rebels and Prequel ships alike just to shut the can.

I'm sorry, that seems unlikely, according to what Christian Peterson said.

Oh I don't even want it out of likelihood anymore. I just want either so I can cackle madly at this point. I don't get a chance to thumb my nose at things but the more resistance to it I hear, the sweeter it would be.

So you've already gone back to being a ****? I mean that apology thread wasn't that long ago.

Are you trying to start crap?

You cant tell?

Guys, this isn't relevant. Take it outside.

Well that wouldn't be fair would it I 'm six feet tall and grew up in an area where people fighting in the street doesn't even raise an eyebrow let alone a call to the cops.

Do you want him hurt physically? Perhaps we should discuss this desire to see living creatures hurt, with proper counselling and medication we can get you past this and back to normality.

Watch out, we got a badass over here.

Sounds like we have at least 4 different era definitions for a ~20 year or so period. Sounds like some people are carving things up to meet thier preferences...I would argue that those mitt be the ones in denial here.

Basically. That's why I'm open to just about anything.

Except for Vong. There just isn't any variety.

What Superdave said.

Additionally, while the prequel live-action films seem off-limits at this point, there are still ships from it that could easily find their way into the current product line; the V-Wing probably being the prime example. PARTICULARLY if they considered making ships from Rebels, which well precedes the events of A New Hope, the V-Wing and even ARC-170 should be considered very fair game. We got Z-95s after all (thank Ghod)!

Rakky Wistol, tell me what you think about this statement from the FFG CEO:

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

What does that mean to you?

Rakky Wistol, tell me what you think about this statement from the FFG CEO:

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

What does that mean to you?

That means you are good at finding a chunk of text from a "sloppy" translation received 3rd hand here on this forum that leaves out:

FFG having the property rights to "prequel era" material

FFG being sticklers for realistic non-cartoony ships (thank goodness)

FFG being open to all ships that are "awesome" and fit current design

FFG CEO "generally" prefers OT era and forward ships but expresses nowhere that Prequel ships are absolutely out.

And of course, it all depends on what the definition of is is.

The biggest issue with prequel ships is just where to put them? which faction gets what?

N-1s are planetary defence ships, doubt they'd be seen anywhere away from Naboo.

Vulture and Tri fighters, apart from the issue of how **** tiny Vultures are, you'd have 3 a base like the Armada fighters, who would still be using these scraps from the defeated seperatists?

V-19 torrents?

ARC-170s? Rebel seems a good spot for these Incom ships

V-wings?

We know who got the left over Z-95s and Y-wings

Delta and Eta Jedi starfighters.... would any be left after the purge? no surviving Jedi would fly in an easily spotted Jedi ship, so who would try and keep them running?

Stuff from the Rebels show on the other hand will be easy to drop into the game, these are: Rebels, Fringe, Empire

Rakky Wistol, tell me what you think about this statement from the FFG CEO:

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

What does that mean to you?

That means you are good at finding a chunk of text from a "sloppy" translation received 3rd hand here on this forum that leaves out:

FFG having the property rights to "prequel era" material

FFG being sticklers for realistic non-cartoony ships (thank goodness)

FFG being open to all ships that are "awesome" and fit current design

FFG CEO "generally" prefers OT era and forward ships but expresses nowhere that Prequel ships are absolutely out.

And of course, it all depends on what the definition of is is.

That's a long walk, my friend. I took it at face value.

"More generally we're looking at the sort of game as it is, the Galactic Civil War going way forward..."

What does that mean to you?

The following line tells me the intend to include at least one ship from rebels

Rebels is pretty much being defined by Disney as set during the formation of the alliance and is the very beginning of the civil war era

Therefore FFG won't seem to have any issues including many more Rebels ships in the game (assuming the show is good/popular) as it fits their intended time period.

The biggest issue with prequel ships is just where to put them? which faction gets what?

Scum and Villiany! I still want to see an ARC-170 in this game. Both sides used them during the rebellion, so they are still a current ship that fits in the time frame. I think all of the torrents were phased out of service by the time of the rebellion although they could still end up with S&V.