On another note; why is everyone so hostile towards coming up with a potential fix? I'm aware that I'm not a game designer and that there have likely been threads similar to this in the past.

The problem isn't just that it's come up before, but that it comes up about two or three times a month.

However, house rules happen and who knows who could be looking at the X-Wing official forum.

Given the comment by Alex Davy that TIE Advanced fans should "keep the faith", it would be reasonable to conclude that FFG has a solution in mind and the wild and woolly world just doesn't know what it is yet. And that's really the other problem with these threads: most of the players who are interested in house rules already have one (although I remember one TIE Advanced thread that was derailed by a conversation about whether or not it was ethical to teach house rules to new players), and FFG is unlikely to take inspiration from someone's homebrew fix at this point.

Essentially, it's not the thread itself, but that it's difficult for the forum's 37th TIE Advanced thread to be constructive or even propose anything original. It looks new to you because you're new (and welcome, by the way!), but really it's just the same set of people (including me) chasing each other around in circles.

On another note; why is everyone so hostile towards coming up with a potential fix? I'm aware that I'm not a game designer and that there have likely been threads similar to this in the past.

The problem isn't just that it's come up before, but that it comes up about two or three times a month.

However, house rules happen and who knows who could be looking at the X-Wing official forum.

Given the comment by Alex Davy that TIE Advanced fans should "keep the faith", it would be reasonable to conclude that FFG has a solution in mind and the wild and woolly world just doesn't know what it is yet. And that's really the other problem with these threads: most of the players who are interested in house rules already have one (although I remember one TIE Advanced thread that was derailed by a conversation about whether or not it was ethical to teach house rules to new players), and FFG is unlikely to take inspiration from someone's homebrew fix at this point.Essentially, it's not the thread itself, but that it's difficult for the forum's 37th TIE Advanced thread to be constructive or even propose anything original. It looks new to you because you're new (and welcome, by the way!), but really it's just the same set of people (including me) chasing each other around in circles.

On another note; why is everyone so hostile towards coming up with a potential fix? I'm aware that I'm not a game designer and that there have likely been threads similar to this in the past.

The problem isn't just that it's come up before, but that it comes up about two or three times a month.

However, house rules happen and who knows who could be looking at the X-Wing official forum.

Given the comment by Alex Davy that TIE Advanced fans should "keep the faith", it would be reasonable to conclude that FFG has a solution in mind and the wild and woolly world just doesn't know what it is yet. And that's really the other problem with these threads: most of the players who are interested in house rules already have one (although I remember one TIE Advanced thread that was derailed by a conversation about whether or not it was ethical to teach house rules to new players), and FFG is unlikely to take inspiration from someone's homebrew fix at this point.Essentially, it's not the thread itself, but that it's difficult for the forum's 37th TIE Advanced thread to be constructive or even propose anything original. It looks new to you because you're new (and welcome, by the way!), but really it's just the same set of people (including me) chasing each other around in circles.

Right now on the front page there is this thread, the tie advanced sucks thread, the tie advanced strikes back thread, and a thread specifically for Stele.

There are too many I agree

FFG should outlaw Advanced threads. Forever.

Once the Advanced is fixed, then what are we going to complain about? Bombers perhaps? The E-Wing?

Once the Advanced is fixed, then what are we going to complain about? Bombers perhaps? The E-Wing?

We're gonna complain that Corran is OP.

Or that the TIE Advanced is OP. Consider Vader+Squad Leader+Experimental Interface:

34 points gives you essentially 2 Vaders. Vader gets his normal 2 actions, and then can take a stress to make someone else have 2 actions. Give Maarek Stele Marksmanship and you can TL+Marksmanship each turn, while TL+Focus with Vader each turn. Toss on some proton rockets also and you've got some seriously improved ships - and that's not even counting what future love them have for the Advanced. Imagine if there is a missile refit, or a card that grants an additional slot.

I don't know what's so bad about multiple threads, if you don't want to read them skip them. Simple.

Now I truly believe that FFG reads these boards and gets Idea's from them. Look at the Scum for instance. I truly believe they used this board as a reference for understanding what people want. Before the big ships came out everyone was asking for them, or making there own mods of them and rules for missions.

Sure having 3 threads is a pain, but just skip them. I don't see the point in complaining about them, when you can do nothing to stop them. These boards allow people to act obnoxious without consequence.

For example if people were standing around at a store and discussing this, would the na sayers walk up and say, "You should never be allowed to talk about that again!" ? No because they would make a fool of themselves and in some places get decked in the face by a fist! for doing it.

When on the board, before people pump their chest and yell and scream. Say to yourselves, would I do this if I was actually talking to a person, most times the answer would be no. Then don't post it.

I'm sure FFG will fix the Tie Advanced, but we can give them some good idea's about the fix here and if someone can come up with a good idea on the boards, I don't think FFG would over look it entirely.

FFG has to read the board, because how else will they understand what their fans and people want. It's a great free resource, and many companies use it as a track to understanding their clients.

My two cents!

Crabbok, I love that idea. Vader with SL, EI, and Concussions is 38 points. Stele with Marksmanship and Concussions is 34. There's a lot of options for the remaining 28 points. It's a ton of opening round damage just from those two.

Crabbok, I love that idea. Vader with SL, EI, and Concussions is 38 points. Stele with Marksmanship and Concussions is 34. There's a lot of options for the remaining 28 points. It's a ton of opening round damage just from those two.

especially if you add Jonus and replace conc. with cluster missiles.

I don't really like that. You leverage the best out of Ordnance at range 3 because of the bonus die your opponent doesn't get. Jonus also has lousy damage, and I think you want someone with good base damage who will help make up damage in later rounds.

Crabbok, I love that idea. Vader with SL, EI, and Concussions is 38 points. Stele with Marksmanship and Concussions is 34. There's a lot of options for the remaining 28 points. It's a ton of opening round damage just from those two.

especially if you add Jonus and replace conc. with cluster missiles.

I also like this build, be interesting to see it in action. Sounds like another clip for your youtube channel.

Huh, that's weird, I thought the way to fix the tie advanced was to make more threads about it.