So I have 5 ties, 1 firespray, and three interceptors(aces and expansion) using what limited ships I have what list would you guys suggest to go against HSF.

Howlrunner (18)

Osidian Squadron Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Bounty Hunter (33)

Could be fun to try out, at least you're giving him plenty of targets.

Firespray is great against Han. A swarm of Academy TIEs backed by Howlrunner is also strong. Han has almost no defense, so a pack of TIEs at range 1-2 will flood him with red dice. You can fly one into where you think he'll move, preventing his action while the rest of your TIEs tear him up and possibly load him with crits.

Howlrunner (18)

Osidian Squadron Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Bounty Hunter (33)

Could be fun to try out, at least you're giving him plenty of targets.

Like that 12 point Obsidian Squadron pilot

Other than dropping that back to the AP (initiative bid?) this seems like it could be a good place to start from even if it is mostly no name ships with nothing extra on them.

The best YT killers are still swarms. This is my favorite and it can take a YT in two turns if you can get all guns on target.

Howlrunner+PTL, Alpha interceptor, Saber interceptor +PTL, 3 academies.

With this list you have 3 priority targets. Howl and the two 3 dice ships. If you have never run squints with howl then you should try it. They become extremely damaging and downright brutal to one agility ships. Your opponent is forced to waste shots on a defensive howl or go for your squints which leaves you howl for longer. If they ignore the academies you can close to range one with those or block. There is no weakness to a well flown swarm and putting squints in it makes it very damaging.

It's been a while but I had some success with both of these against HSF:

Krassis + HLC

Howlrunner

Academy Pilot x3

With 3 points for either PTL on Howlrunner or Recon Spec on Krassis

Bounty Hunter

Howlrunner + Determination

Academy Pilot x4

I've sed it before n im not popular for it but im not a fan of howl, I no she works but I gotten bored of the same list I was gona try soontir, jax, three AP, plus usual upgrades on soontir n jax ie ptl, wot do y'all think?

I've sed it before n im not popular for it but im not a fan of howl, I no she works but I gotten bored of the same list I was gona try soontir, jax, three AP, plus usual upgrades on soontir n jax ie ptl, wot do y'all think?

Falcons are a hard counter to expensive, elite Interceptors, so a list with two of them is not likely to perform well.

All I can say is ties make excellent blockers for Falcons.

I'd try something like

Krassis

Hlc

Recon specialist (if you have one)

Howlrunner

Academy pilot x3

100 pts.

Get your ties in his face.

If he shots at anything you want it to be them.

Block with your low PS ships. Deny his actions and from moving around.

Keep Krassis far away and shoot away with hlc.

Recon Specialist on there for that extra focus for defense

The thing is, Interceptors are at a disadvantage against turrets. Their main strength is their ability to get out of the way, which is nearly useless against the Falcon. An alternative to a TIE swarm would be using Shuttles and/or Firesprays though. Point for point they are more resilient and more destructive than Falcons, at the cost of mobility. I'd love to see a Han Shoots First list take on four Lambdas.

I've had a fair amount of success fielding naked TIE Bombers.

Scimitar Squadron pilots are only 16 points each and they have a fat 6 points of hull. Their dial isn't bad for what you pay and they tend to stick around, both because they can absorb a lot of shots and opponents often don't consider them an immediate threat. You can get a flight of 3 for less than half of your 100-point list and still have room for a decently-armed Firespray or two shuttles.

Edit: Disregard, unless you're investing in new ships.

Jonus + rhymer + 2 cheap bombers. All of them with cluster missiles. Jonus allows to repeat 2 dice for each attack to whoever is at range 1. The amount of shots can be brutal (24) And you have 24 hull total. Han shoots firts, Han dies first..

The OP doesn't have any bombers. But I agree, a firespray and 4 stock scimitars can destroy low agility lists, but it's a very long fight. 3 bombers and upgrades don't work anywhere near as good.

Too bad you don't have out maneuvers.

4X black squad outmaneuver

Mauler Mithel outmaneuver

Stealth device on 4 of them.

Han loves outmaneuver.

I tried soontir+ptl+shield+royal guard+stealth krassis+ion cannon and two AP it work really well.

I tried soontir+ptl+shield+royal guard+stealth krassis+ion cannon and two AP it work really well.

That is well over 100 points.

Options

Firespray + 5 Ties

Krassis HLC + 4 Ties (Howlrunner)

Soontir Push the limit + 5 Ties

4 Ties + 2 naked Interceptors (Interswarm)

Basically, any list with 4+ Ties can do well against falcons if you pin them down.

I tried soontir+ptl+shield+royal guard+stealth krassis+ion cannon and two AP it work really well.

That is well over 100 points

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I tried soontir+ptl+shield+royal guard+stealth krassis+ion cannon and two AP it work really well.

That is well over 100 points

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If by "well over" you mean exactly....I assume you thought the royal guard was a ship and not the title?

Oh you are completely right, the pluses can get confusing.