Pet Peeve: Pronunciation

By DigitalChicanery, in X-Wing

Tantive (as in Tantive IV) is pronounced Tan-tiv-vee .

It's taken from "Tantivy".

adverb
1. at full gallop:
"to ride tantivy".
adjective
2. swift; rapid.
noun, plural tantivies.
3. a gallop; rush.
interjection
4.
(used as a hunting cry when the chase is at full speed.)

yeah but surely its a fantasy universe... until someone says they name in the film thats an 'educated guess'.

Like classical greek and roman, we don't know how it sounded, we guess.

While i'm sure you're right as it does indeed make sense... i've been calling it the 'tan-tiv' since I was about 18 I cant see me really stopping now :)

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

Categorically refuse on the grounds that "tantivy" is not a sound I would be caught making in public.

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

Now if only the English could learn how to parse sentences correctly.

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

How did the english language develop to the point in wich "Sheep" is the singular AND the plural of a sheep?

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

Now if only the English could learn how to parse sentences.

It's the net no one cares now if I was writing a formal letter I'd worry about syntax grammar and punctuation, but on the net no fecks are given.

Tantive (as in Tantive IV) is pronounced Tan-tiv-vee .

It's taken from "Tantivy".

adverb
1. at full gallop:
"to ride tantivy".
adjective
2. swift; rapid.
noun, plural tantivies.
3. a gallop; rush.
interjection
4.
(used as a hunting cry when the chase is at full speed.)

Right, "Rebel blockade runner" it is!

Edited by Robin Graves

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

Now if only the English could learn how to parse sentences.

It's the net no one cares now if I was writing a formal letter I'd worry about syntax grammar and punctuation, but on the net no fecks are given.

Exactly, i'm the assistant editor of a magazine with a reasonable circulation as my 'day job'. I need to be really switched on when i'm editing or writing to entertain or inform those who are paying to read what I write.

On a forum that has no relation to the mag, well as long as i get my point across i sort of switch off 'grammar nazi' mode :)

Don't get me started. Pronunciation, especially when attempting to consider root languages, is not most peoples Forte. (See what I did there?)

It's the net no one cares now if I was writing a formal letter I'd worry about syntax grammar and punctuation, but on the net no fecks are given.

People who live in glass houses... should get dressed with the lights off.

Right, got it. Organa Family's CR-90.

As an Englishman I've long ago given up getting people to use the language properly, aluminium for example is alu-min-ium not iluminum as Americans say it, also colour and honour have u`s dagnamit.

Now if only the English could learn how to parse sentences.

It's the net no one cares now if I was writing a formal letter I'd worry about syntax grammar and punctuation, but on the net no fecks are given.

Exactly, i'm the assistant editor of a magazine with a reasonable circulation as my 'day job'. I need to be really switched on when i'm editing or writing to entertain or inform those who are paying to read what I write.

On a forum that has no relation to the mag, well as long as i get my point across i sort of switch off 'grammar nazi' mode :)

I switched it on. I found that after only a few years of not caring about spelling, I had lost a lot of it. So I actively try to improve my spelling and grammar at every opportunity. If I don't use it, I lose it.

Don't get me started. Pronunciation, especially when attempting to consider root languages, is not most peoples Forte. (See what I did there?)

you misspelled "Fort". and it it is pronounced "castle" :)

Oh i find i focus better if i let my mind wander a little in down time.

I've worked with words on and off since I was 16 (junior reporter) to where i am now (assistant editor) with a few non wordy career breaks (infantry!) and some very wordy career breaks (high school English teacher). I just prefer to treat my hobby time quite casually. As long as im not incoherent and dont make too many typos I dont mind.

Working largely from home and editing means i really have to put a 'work mindset' in place to do anything constructive of a day and not waste it all on forums like this..... erm like i did today :)

A big part of spelling and grammar is how you want to be perceived. If you're the type who gets into lots of debates, *ahem*, it behooves you to at least comport yourself like an intelligent person, to say nothing of communicating as effectively as possible. Some people may not care about their own writing, but those types don't realize how much of a disservice they're doing to the people who have to read and understand it. Sure, you don't have to write well, but I also don't have to think of you as anything more than an illiterate boob (and this is a general observation, not directed at any one person in particular).

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

Well a 1to 2 'like to post' ratio must mean I'm doing something right?

Or perhaps i'm just appeasing the masses :)

At least this is star wars. Once you get into the warhammer 40k rpg stuff things get harrowing quickly.

Most of the imperium's psuedo latin is to blame.

And i will admit that i used to pronounce Tyranid as Tie-rah-nid (tie as in tie-fighter) instead of ,what i'm told, is the proper way of tea-ran-id. And the 1st time I pronounced Omnissiah as om-niss-ee-ah rather than om-ni-saai-ah. And you don't want to know about "Ecclesiarchy". Dammit GW quit using big words!

Edited by Robin Graves

Tih - ran - id actually... trust me i used to work with the boys who wrote the book and this is how Andy Chambers and Rick Priestly pronounce it.

the I is as is 'tin'

The language thing was always a problem, its not even supposed to be latin... its actually called 'tech' but too many people got hung up on dog latin. Look up the designers notes on 'language of the imperium' in the back of the old Rogue Trader book.

My fave 40k thing was that so many people never got the in jokes and historical references.

not so much a joke as direct 'history lift' was the 'expulsion from imperial records' of two chapters.

People have spent years arguing what those chapters were and the truth is they were never anything. Rick put it in as he's an archeologist originally and the Imperial Roman records have two legions 'expunged from imperial records' (probably for rebeliing or losing an eagle) and he thought this was cool, they never ever had names or existed. :)

Joke wise.. well 'Rainbow Warriors' and 'Ultramarines' were very tongue in cheek for a start and *allegedly* the crimson fists red fist concept comes from a US gay rights movements insignia, or so studio legend had it.

It's the net no one cares now if I was writing a formal letter I'd worry about syntax grammar and punctuation, but on the net no fecks are given.

People who live in glass houses... should get dressed with the lights off.

Only if they grew up with some long outdated morality system, the human body is nothing to be ashamed of, has some one been mocking you for the way you look?

It's what's inside that matters champ old age robs us all of our looks, it's who we are and who others perceive us to be that matters, and on that count I'm golden.

Ah good to know the right way it's pronounced. Thanks I will.

I agree, the language is low or high gothic: ie gobledigook. But it works in creating an atmosphere that let's you know: this is not the same as your world. At least "Dies Irae" (traitor imperator titan name) was proper latin (but they got that from the hymn.

Also great fun is hearing people (trying to) pronounce "Roboute Guilliman"...

My fave 40k thing was that so many people never got the in jokes and historical references.

not so much a joke as direct 'history lift' was the 'expulsion from imperial records' of two chapters.

People have spent years arguing what those chapters were and the truth is they were never anything. Rick put it in as he's an archeologist originally and the Imperial Roman records have two legions 'expunged from imperial records' (probably for rebeliing or losing an eagle) and he thought this was cool, they never ever had names or existed. :)

Joke wise.. well 'Rainbow Warriors' and 'Ultramarines' were very tongue in cheek for a start and *allegedly* the crimson fists red fist concept comes from a US *** rights movements insignia, or so studio legend had it.

I heard he did that (the missing legions) so that players could make their own and tus fit them in the story.

Good old Robert gullman, wasn't much fun at parties but he sure could balance a check book.