You all should check out a artical I was reading with the same name as this topic. Plug it into google, it came out august 1st 2014. Its great!!!

And here I thought I just misplaced my books

It seems disney is being nicer. Before they were like even if stuff is not contradicted its noncanon. Now it sounds like its the other way round.

Can someone link? Not finding it off my phone.

Umm, the announcement from LFL was pretty much setting up the Shrodinger's Cat situation with the EU. Just because people overreacted doesn't change what the initial announcement was.

Umm, the announcement from LFL was pretty much setting up the Shrodinger's Cat situation with the EU. Just because people overreacted doesn't change what the initial announcement was.

The announcement was vaug though, the q&a that came after was alot better, like that the games r undecided. Going only by the annpouncement youd think they are noncanon. As it is they go up in canon type 2ndary class A.

Can someone link? Not finding it off my phone.

Sorry I cant post links with xbox 360. Someone should help you out.

They'll take what works.

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And your welcome

I always was under the impression that nothing outside of the movies was canon, but that Disney would be cherry picking the best the EU had to offer and making it canon by including it in the new movies. Let's face it, there is a wealth of stuff out there, they'd be remiss to summarily dismiss it all. But, with they're policy on how they are handling this, they can drag in suitable pieces as they find the need for them, without having to decide on things that aren't in the immediate plans.

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Good read. People need to shut the hell up already.

I always was under the impression that nothing outside of the movies was canon, but that Disney would be cherry picking the best the EU had to offer and making it canon by including it in the new movies. Let's face it, there is a wealth of stuff out there, they'd be remiss to summarily dismiss it all. But, with they're policy on how they are handling this, they can drag in suitable pieces as they find the need for them, without having to decide on things that aren't in the immediate plans.

Precisely. This might sound crazy, but I'm going to go ahead and say it.

If we want a good idea of what's canon, we should at the moment, look at XWMG. Right now, most of these things have involvement with many of the 90s Star Wars games, everything from TIE Fighter to Dark Forces, and even a few of the comics, we've got a lot of the iconic EU stuff in XWMG circulation, and I find that rather interesting.

It's an excellent article and it sets out Disney's views on the new movies and books - ie that they are the official continuation of the Star Wars story. I can only imagine how difficult it would have been to integrate any new film into the structure and timeline(s) established by the EU over the past 37 years, such as Thrawn, Chewbacca's death, clone Palpatines. However, it doesn't mean that each and every aspect of the EU is completely discarded. I would say that if it doesn't directly contradict the official timeline, then it's still possible for it to exist as part of the 'new' EU.

Eg Dennis Lawson is not interested in appearing in Ep VII. It doesn't mean that Wedge didn't exist beyond Endor and lead Rogue Squadron.

Right now, we DO NOT know what ideas and inspirations Disney will draw from the treasure troves of the EU, we do not know ifJJ Abrams and Disney will make a good film series - they are both capable of producing excellent material, just as much as they have produced some stinkers.

At least we can safely assume that there won't be some time travel mcguffin that re-writes the whole universe!

Let's not forget that the EU gave us Sun Crushers, wooden spaceships flown by half-Bothans, clones with muultiple vowels, Sith donkeys, the Droids and Ewoks cartoon series, the Holiday Special ......... OK, maybe not Sith donkeys.

But take heart that if Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc or Mara Jade acting as the Emperors Hand doesn't come into direct conflict with the events of Ep VII and subsequent timeline, then fans can still consider it as extant within the established Star Wars Universe.

As a closing line, and to illustrate that 'the Canon' is willing to draw from the EU, I would mention Palpatine, Coruscant and the Outrider as examples of EU material integrated into the Canon (yes, i know that Shadows of the Empire was an un officially official muti-media project).

I am willing to wait and see what Disney do with Star Wars. Let's face it, they could establish their own timeline or fully integrate the EU and still give us Star Wars Ep VII: Jar Jar Bombad Jedi ......

I think it was the right thing to do there is too many canon nazis at present (just check the forums) if they want to tell more they need to change some EU

Sound article

As i said in another thread the EU is so vast and patchy it makes sense to say 'these are all stories heard in bars across the galaxy' and then cherry pick the best ideas and make them into the films.

I'd love to see Mara Jade in a movie. I'm less excited about tons of obscure ships i've got in my 'Imperial Sourcebook' from about 1988 in the RPG supplement.

As long as Force Unleashed is still not considered Canon I'm happy.... It was a fun story but it was annoying to see Vader get beaten around again like nothing by an apprentice who never finished his training, plus the emperor got his butt whooped when even Yoda had some trouble with him. Plus it was stupid that it would've been leading him to the darkside by killing the emperor but leaving the emperor alive to keep killing everyone was the good route... fun story but terrible for canon...

I think Disney lost that...

Love'en Feeling...

Now the EU is Gone, Gone, Gone

I think it was the right thing to do there is too many canon nazis at present (just check the forums) if they want to tell more they need to change some EU

I'd actually like to see some really good canon nazism that purges some really awful crap, creates a consistent timeline, and establishes a coherent SWU.

Obviously, I do have my preferences and I wish that I were the one issuing the purge orders rather than someone else. I am afraid that they'll purge the elements that I really like (Grand Admiral Thrawn), but I'm willing to accept some collateral damage.

A problem that I do foresee is that the Nicaean Council of Star Wars canon (the Lucasfilm Story Group - LSG) is going to overlook details that fall below their radar, and they're going to create the same inconsistencies that they believe they're trying to iron out. Thankfully, they have more than enough tools to do the job well (incl. the crowdsourcing engine called Wookieepedia). Hopefully, they'll choose to do their homework. However, it might just be that they're giving themselves an excuse to be the elephant in the china closet. That's usually how nazism works out.

I'd love to see Mara Jade in a movie. I'm less excited about tons of obscure ships i've got in my 'Imperial Sourcebook' from about 1988 in the RPG supplement.

I really love the Imperial Sourcebook, despite some of its problems. I would hope that they would actively integrate and canonize as much as they could from that.

That said, I don't get the sense that the LSG is attempting to so much iron out past inconsistencies, as minimize future ones by allowing the Wild West (Outer Rim?) of publishing that happened in the 1990s.

But I really, really hope (pray/despair?) that they adopt the Essential Atlas as the guiding structure of the galaxy.

Canon nazism isn't fun with people with an imagination. All fantasy should spark the imagination and to much that can't happen when there is someone far more interested in correcting people than enjoying the story. That was always the key to GWs success although you had a set story of the universe you could have an army that could have any story.

Although GW are on a downer their formats are very old and XWings lifespan will depend on their ability to do this.

But take heart that if Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc or Mara Jade acting as the Emperors Hand doesn't come into direct conflict with the events of Ep VII and subsequent timeline, then fans can still consider it as extant within the established Star Wars Universe.

If Luke has just been mooking about on Degobah for 30 years cranking until his hand falls off then a lot of EU won't fit at all anymore.

Well, I won't say much but that's definitely not what he's been doing.

But take heart that if Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc or Mara Jade acting as the Emperors Hand doesn't come into direct conflict with the events of Ep VII and subsequent timeline, then fans can still consider it as extant within the established Star Wars Universe.

If Luke has just been mooking about on Degobah for 30 years cranking until his hand falls off then a lot of EU won't fit at all anymore.

Well, I won't say much but that's definitely not what he's been doing.

What, not even a little? Has he got a boy/girlfriend now?

But take heart that if Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc or Mara Jade acting as the Emperors Hand doesn't come into direct conflict with the events of Ep VII and subsequent timeline, then fans can still consider it as extant within the established Star Wars Universe.

If Luke has just been mooking about on Degobah for 30 years cranking until his hand falls off then a lot of EU won't fit at all anymore.

Well, I won't say much but that's definitely not what he's been doing.

What, not even a little? Has he got a boy/girlfriend now?

It's all rumor, but it adds up.

Supposedly, Luke has been detained by Imperial Inquisitors for a long time. Why? I don't know.

Star Wars Canonicity has always been flexible with movies always superseding anything else, even if movies came later. The Thrawn trilogy was already swept aside by the prequel trilogies which gave a wholly different explanation of the Clone Wars invalidating a lot of the books.

Just read the article on Wookieepedia on it: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

For me, Star Wars mostly means the novels of the 90s, because that's where I spent most of my time. While I understand why the movies are primary for most people, I think the novels, at least the best of them (in my experience the X-Wing novels, particularly the Wraith trilogy, Zahn's first five books, and a couple others) really "expanded" (pun intended) the universe, not just in worldbuilding and tech, but also emotionally and themtatically.

Thus, unless the new films accomplish something similar (and I have little hope that they will), the EU will never be completely dead for me.

Fan Fiction even if it is endorsed is still other peoples liberty on stories. Lucas made the movie then everyone else made the books based on those movies. The same story told by a different person will seldom be the same story.