I see countless jokes about going all Captain Kirk with the various xenos in the expanse, but seriously, both fluff and game-wise, how often does this happen? If someone tells me there are little Eldar-Human mutants frolicking somewhere.....

I don't think it's ever officially happened. There are some well-written stories (and far more poorly written ones) saying it has happened, but humans and Eldar are almost certainly not biologically compatible.

There are a lot of recognised abhuman species, which are humans that evolved to adapt to the worlds they've lived on. Apart from the obvious Ogryns (more traditional fantasy Half-Orks) and Ratlings (Halflings), the latest codex mentions the existence of Felinids (cat people), Troths (plant people), Neandors (probably Neanderthals), and Longshanks (no clue). They're a subclass, but presumably are breedable with humans.

Given that Star Trek aliens all look like funny-coloured humans there probably are Rogue Traders who discover lost tribes of humans and give them the old mating procedure to see if they produce valid children, and thus valid to be recognised as abhuman!

I don't think it's ever officially happened. There are some well-written stories (and far more poorly written ones) saying it has happened, but humans and Eldar are almost certainly not biologically compatible.

Yes, it actually did, in a previous edition. The Ultramarines astropath was a half human/half eldar.

Yes, it actually did, in a previous edition. The Ultramarines astropath was a half human/half eldar.

.... If someone tells me there are little Eldar-Human mutants frolicking somewhere.....

There are little Eldar-Human mutants frolicking somewhere.

On a serious note, in previous editions of Rogue Trader tabletop and Warhammer 40k, half-eldar-human existed (albeit rarely). Other than that, no other half-human-xeno existed to my knowledge. So, it's completely at your GM's discretion. So, whether you want to play a half-human-xeno character, or make little babies with one, it's completely up your groups intent with the Warhammer 40k universe. Saying that, don't be surprised the vast majority of humanity in IoM would want to maim, burn, kill your character (and not specifically in that order). Happy gaming.

Pretty sure the Eldar wouldn't be too keen on it also.

Pretty sure the Eldar wouldn't be too keen on it also.

Probably depends on why the Eldar parent became a parent. If it's part of some Eldar Plan, those aware of (and supporting) the Plan will let it slide, and those unaware will be filled with curiosity, (extra)contempt, and (extra)arrogance. Those opposed to the Plan will try extra hard to kill you/manipulate you to their ends. The Dark Eldar will be fascinated, and immediately attempt to secure you for experimentation.

Also, Slaanesh is probably paying an undesirable amount of attention to you.

I've written chunks of one of those Human + Eldar romances, so I won't say "nope" to the idea, but they haven't bred, and as she has two adult offspring (who HATE the bastard Mon'keigh she brought home; as a Warp Spider and a Shadow Spectre, currently, they are trying to decide if they can kill him, and get away with it, or if Mom will catch them), I don't think they plan to. They are, in fact, part of one of those "she had a vision, and now must see it through" angles.

On the other hand, I am inclined to think that they COULD breed because...fantasy. A monumentally weak answer, I confess, but it works everywhere else. In both D&D AND LotR, Humans and Elves, two races that share no origin, or even similar creation, can breed. I know that there are breeds of the same animals now, here on our Earth, who cannot breed, due to branched evolution (Darwin's Finches are a good example), but you can breed most dogs into something, and that doesn't depend on fantasy logic. In my universe, the Humans and the Eldar are similar enough, physically, that their DNA, while better by leaps, can assimilate Human DNA. Should they breed? That's a bigger question, and I don't know, but I'd say yes, they can. If nothing else, the Old Ones could've engineered that as an adaptability-catch, not knowing how long the Necron Wars were going to take, but the Necrons couldn't really change, except for their tech. I view it in a similar light to the Asari, in the Mass Effect trilogy; very different alien race, but able to assimilate numerous DNA strands into their offspring, leading to some interesting, if not always apparent results. I don't know; it's my interpretation, anyway. My universe Humans and Eldar are COMPATIBLE, if not likely to work. Tau? Less certain, more different.

Will you live? No, probably not. Like many sci-fi/fantasy stories, half-breeds are viewed with hatred, and their parents disgust. Even the relationship would be problematic. In my story, Astrina's family and people are either disappointed, or outright hostile. Her father, one of the chief-ranked Farseers, is unable to understand her choice, and feels at least a bit put out at what it makes the others think of him . Her sons are more openly hostile, wanting to kill Alistair, thinking he must have bewitched their mother (even though she is a considerably more potent psyker than he is). The rest of her people watch closely, as if waiting for Alistair to slip up, while in their presence. Only Astrina's younger sister, Ynella, is helpful. To describe her, she was born simple, a bit naive, if you will, and so she is often coddled by everyone else, lest she get hurt. She is, however, far and away the best Bonesinger in the Craftworld, possibly as a result of her "lack of mental clutter." She thinks that Alistair is decent, and is making him wraithbone psyker gear (no one else would, or could attune it to his Human soul rhythm). As for Alistair, he was already hated by his regiment, and literally stolen off the field of battle, in front of them. If anyone he knew saw him, they'd just shoot him as a deserter, more than likely. In most works I can think of, those couples, and their children, will be killed. Play Tales of Symphonia sometime, and then tell me why any Human and Elf, knowing how EVERYONE in the worlds would feel, still bred so many Half-Elves, or even dated.

There are plenty of little human/genestealer babies out there...

I think the best chance for human + xenos relationship would be with a Tau. (Ok they aren't exactly orion slave girl material, but at least they are blue skinned) They are sane and civil, not 100 year old hyperemotional space elves or monstrous spore reproducing barbarians.

Eldar: I don't think elkdar like humans enough to get in a relationship with them. - altough the human probably wants to do some hot eldar babe. (And then find out the Screaming banshee they were shatting up was male!)

Dark eldar may be a bit more frisky- but then again the human would end up dead/castrated/pet/homnonculus test subject...

Orks/vespid/Kroot/loc'atl: NO. just no.

Tyranids: Hmmm Dominatrix...err i mean, no, unles you coun't getting impregnated by a purestrain genestealer.

Necrons: NO! Unless the pariah gene counts (wich i doubt)

Goes double for the C'tan altough there is no telling what they can and cannot do. It would be a powergamer's dream come true: " yeah i'm half c'tan so i have all these powers..."

And besides, why would you go xenos when you could turn to chaos and do a Daemonette? Once you go Slaanesh...

Abhumans aren't exactly aliens so "going Kirk" would be accepted (ie not get you burned imediatly as a xenohumper).

Ratlings. possible but i doubt many rogue traders are into small abhumans with hair feet...

Ogryn: "ME WANT SNU SNU!" - 'nuff said.

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Illiyan Nastase

Of course you could always get jiggy with the superhot assassin babe instead (Beware of whiney activist weirdo incoming! Actually, I'm surprised he hasn't shown up yet!)

In all seriousness though, A Dark Eldar most likely entertain the notion above any other. How well the Human character did in this tryst would depend ENTIRELY on who held the balance of power! For example: A DE Wyche "serving" on a RT's ship would certainly "do it" if she thought it would improve her station! She would probably even enjoy it! (It's ALL about the sensation!). However, If the Human were under her tender care, wellllll..... She might still "do it" if it amused her but the human wouldn't fare nearly as well!

You say 'relationship', I say 'spoils of war'.

Illiyan Nastase

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1° edition was the best edition to me.

The title of this thread (rather than the green skin seducing Kirk concept) got me musing on what a 40k siren would be like... Given the nature of the setting, they wouldn't be beautiful in reality. I started thinking of a horrific looking monster that PRETENDED to be a beautiful woman to get close to men in order to eat/enslave/brainwash etc them. Then I thought that this idea seemed a little familiar:-

http://reddwarf.wikia.com/wiki/Psiren

And actually:-

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Skin_(2013_film)

And now I come to think of it:-

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_(film)

And actually:-

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vampires#.U_Je-WK9KK0

The title of this thread (rather than the green skin seducing Kirk concept) got me musing on what a 40k siren would be like... Given the nature of the setting, they wouldn't be beautiful in reality. I started thinking of a horrific looking monster that PRETENDED to be a beautiful woman to get close to men in order to eat/enslave/brainwash etc them.

Pretty much how Daemonettes roll.

I would say that although normally humans and Eldar aren't compatible, Eldar could do some bio-engineering thingies to make it happen. Probably just heavily alter eldar genes and somehow put them into a human female.

I would say that although normally humans and Eldar aren't compatible, Eldar could do some bio-engineering thingies to make it happen. Probably just heavily alter eldar genes and somehow put them into a human female.

This sounds like the sort of thing Dark Eldar would do for fun. Puts a new perspective on Illyan Nastase, doesn't it? Mutant offspring of a thousand alien psychopaths, conceived in a torture chamber for the pleasure of a cabal of insane Haemonculi, his pregnant and utterly traumatised mother, a captured slave, was hurled through the webway, landing on the shattered world of Badab among the ashes of the Palace of Thorns...this stuff just writes itself!

Being captured by dark eldar wyches seems all fun and games untill they hand you over to the haemonculi

And while i'd like to think that slaanesh folower are to kinky to torture the one thing they don't want to hear is haemonculus saiying: "ok, let's start with burning out your nerve clusters..."

Being captured by dark eldar wyches seems all fun and games untill they hand you over to the haemonculi

And while i'd like to think that slaanesh folower are to kinky to torture the one thing they don't want to hear is haemonculus saiying: "ok, let's start with burning out your nerve clusters..."

I've never considered being handed over to a Dark Eldar anything fun and games. The Dark Kin supplement is freely available to everyone, and nowhere in it does it describe Wyches as kinky sex torturers. They're the elite arena fighters of Dark Eldar society. Like the Howling Banshees nor are they exclusively female, but FFG will probably not put a Dark Eldar male in that skimpy arena costume. At least with a Wych they can only fight you in an arena for so long, and worst case scenario you'll still have a weapon to end your suffering. Haemonculi can torture you for eternity.

Blocking out all sensation is the standard torture of Slaanesh worshippers.

Here follows a list of Xenos that wouldn't just rip your face off and are humanoid enough that they MIGHT be viable enough to mention in this thread:

Enoulians http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Enoulians#.U_NTUpRdUy0 not much is known of them, but they are humanoid and exotic enough compared to humans.

Kroot http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kroot#.U_NUEZRdUy0 biologically not compatible but then neither was Jabba with Leia and he still kept her around

Lacrymoles http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lacrymole#.U_NU25RdUy0 if you could convince one not to feed on your blood it would make an exotic shapeshifting 'nubile alien siren'.

Sslyth http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lacrymole#.U_NU25RdUy0 assuming you could acquire one's services and loyalty, would certainly be exotic and most likely biologically incompatible.

Demiurg http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Demiurg#.U_NXqJRdUy0 again little is known of them but they are basically space dwarves so should be biologically compatible.

For that matter pretty much any of the Tau Empire minor xenos races http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Sentient_Species#Tau_Empire_species bar the etheral or crustacean ones

There's loads of other Xenos in the setting and the glory of it is that you can easily come up with your own minor xenos or a human offshoot race to fit the needs of your story.

Well, the Demiurg and Squats are different. The Squats were abhumans, the space dwarves. The Demiurg not so much.

Are we really compiling a list for coitus compatible races?

Apparently so, but i've got the Jaded Talent and a high enough amount of Insanity and Corruption that i just don't seem to care anymore...