How do you pronounce "Scyk?"

By UnfairBanana, in X-Wing

You'll have to forgive my pedantry, but those credentials don't mean much coming from " a primary school teacher s ."

(from a primary school teachers ... point of view)

Now, we could make an argument over the lack of a possessive apostrophe, but they did finish the sentence.

Sick. Think scepter and sycophant.

Neither of those words is even spelled with the same letter combination.

Scythe is, though, meaning my money is on the sike/psych pronunciation.

Sure they do, just not at the same time. Those were both individual examples of how those particular letter combinations work.

Its pronounced 'Psych' and heres why (from a primary school teachers - who regularly teaches spelling rules to children - point of view):

Sc - is capable of making 2 sounds. It makes separate s and c sounds when it is followed by another modifier consonant (school, scratch) or a short vowel (scum, scat). It makes a single s sound when followed by a long vowel (science, scene)

y - usually makes a long i [eye] sound, but there are enough exceptions to not make this a rule.

k - a k sound as the final sound of a word is always made by ck if it is following a short vowel (sick, click), and by just k if it is following a long vowel (took, fluke - k is final sound as bossy e is silent).

So if we backtrack, just a k on the end means it's a long i sound, meaning it's a single s sound.

so s-eye-k. - phsych.

You'll have to forgive my pedantry, but those credentials don't mean much coming from " a primary school teacher s ."

Psych and scythe have long Is only because of another vowel following afterwards (psych being pronounced differently because it's shorthand for longer words). It's most definitely sick.

http://homepage.smc.edu/reading_lab/basic_spelling_rules.htm

Feel free to keep discussing it, but I think the above link fairly well ends the argument.

forgive me for forgetting the apostrophe, I was sure I put it in, but the phone took it out - DYAC.

a teacher's is correct. In this case the s is possessive, as it's my perspective, not plural.

Also, in your example of scythe - it only has 1 vowel sound. The e is a modifier e (bossy e in primary school), and has no sound itself, otherwise you would say it s-i-th-ee - as the i would also be a short i sound).

I still don't see how the link you've provided answers the question at all, as none of that information relates to how these sounds interact.

However here: http://tipsforreluctantreaders.weebly.com/rules.html

Point 13: - if the y was a short vowel (sick), you would have to have ck. Only having k makes it a long vowel.

Making it a long vowel, makes sc a blend instead of a digraph.

Edited by godofcheese

It is a short vowel, as described in the link I posted above. "Point 13" in your link jibes with that just fine, despite the fact that you're interpreting it backwards (just because a short I should be followed by ck doesn't mean a lone K must be preceded by a long I).

1. Short-Vowel Rule: When one-syllable words have a vowel in the middle, the vowel usually has a short sound: Examples: cat, dog, man, hat, mom, dad, got.

Is Scyk a one-syllable word with a vowel in the middle? Yes. The vowel should be a short sound.

4. Y as a long i: The letter Y makes the long sound of I when it comes at the end of a short word that has no other vowel. Examples: cry, try, my, fly, by, hi.

Is Scyk a short word that has no other vowels and ends in Y? Obviously not. The vowel is not a long sound.

Out of curiosity, how many single-syllable, single-vowel words with Y in the middle (not at the end) can we name together? I've got crypt, gym, hymn, and myth, all of which are short Is. Please don't bring up "psych," as people have already mentioned in this thread; even if we suppose that it's a word unto itself, we still have to acknowledge that it derives its pronunciation, etymologically, from longer words that correspond to different rules.

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Let's be fair, we're trying to impose the rules of English on a made up word in an alien cosmology. We might as well debate the pronunciation of various Tolkien words, though at least there I'd imagine some kind of intuitive rule set.

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

Since it's a Mandalorian starfighter, the Mando'a pronunciation is probably the most accurate. That would mean that "seek" or "chic" would be the most accurate pronunciations, from what I understand of Mando'a.

"Shike" seems to fit better with a lot of the other Mandalorian pronunciations as seen in Republic Commando game and novels.

Edit: further info: A lot of Eastern European languages (which Man'doa seems to be kinda-sorta based in), the "sc" dipthong makes a "sh" sound, and "y" in Mandalortan makes a long "I" sound.

I like this answer. Goes right to the fluff and not to our language constraints

As much as I'm a fan of Mando'a, in which it would be "sheek", it's named after a lizard on Tatooine whose name I assume is not Mandalorian in origin.

To that end, I pronounce it "Hutt fighter".

Edited by bayruun

And I'll be calling it the M3-A.

Since it's a Mandalorian starfighter, the Mando'a pronunciation is probably the most accurate. That would mean that "seek" or "chic" would be the most accurate pronunciations, from what I understand of Mando'a.

Just watched Team Covenant's interview with the X-Wing team from FFG. The X-Wing guys pronounced it "seek".

Doesn't matter.

The sound they all make is "boom" when in the sights of the superior Imperial Army.

Or so I think due to George Lucas' special effects lied to me that sound could travel in space =/

The designers pronounced it Seek. But I still like psych.

think of the religion Sikh, it is pronounced "seek" and now we have FFG on video saying it that way too, so Im on board with "seek."

FYI FFG apparently pronounces it as "seek" with a silent c and a long-i y.

Edit: looks like I'm late with this tidbit. Oh well.

Edited by Levi Porphyrogenitus

"This bickering is pointless..."

Anyways, the real question is, how do you pronounce HAN??

SICK!

In Star Wars Galaxies, the game it's from, it was pronounced like "Skick". It was the named after a type of lizard in star wars. It was basically like a TIE Fighter with shields.

The amount of confusion in his thread is scykening.

I came into this thread scyking answers but now I'm all scyked out and it's making me scyk.

(Did I miss any?)

Edited by Ktan

(Did I miss any?)

Yes. You'll be scyking yourself in the butt when you figure it out.

Seek?

ZOING!!!

:o

Leave it to a Rookie with 33 post to get it right.

Yes you say it SEEK.

:lol:

Nice, since it is an Interceptor... go figure.

;)

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here but in the team covenant video, ffg pronounced it "seek"

Yup they both called it a seek. Thread closed ... LoL

Yep. It's Seek.

Yup they both called it a seek. Thread closed ... LoL

Hardly. Has everyone forgotten the Echo debate so soon? I might consider the FFG staff authorities on the subject if they had created the word themselves, but it's clear they didn't. Without the actual author here to chime in on the subject, we can either abide by the rules of the English language, or we can take the word of two guys who might well be as confused as the rest of you.

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

what you scyk is in SWG find in there, and your questions will be answered.

Welp. It's seek. I was wrong.