I think it was stated quite early on that DH2 would be set in 999m41 (or at least hinted at) and it's yet another reason I'm unlikely to really ever get into DH2, other than to mine it for influences and ideas.

You know you can "get into DH2" without the need to use the setting, right? All our DH1 sessions were set in M42.

BYE

I get the most out of the setting(s), fluff, stories and content like that. The rules are just rules, and I don't really want to spend the time to fully flesh out my own setting. I wish I had the time to do it, and had enough GM experience to actually do these things "on the fly", but I don't.

I'm a sucker for setting and story content, and just like with rules, kicking at these things until they give in and then make them mine.

Changing base assumptions such as time and place will invariably affect the presentation of rules and offered content, as alternatives offered will almost always be tied to the setting - as I think it should be, I think you get the most out of it that way, and it's not just a sheet with rules, but something that can be potentially interesting - and seeing as how DH2 is tied to Askellon and 999m41, I just don't see it offering much that I'm interested in at all, other than what little I'll manage to pilfer and use for better setting(s).

You can always turn the question to your players if some aspect of the setting needs to be made up on the fly. Pick the player whose character would most likely know about it and ask them what their character knows about the subject. If the player gives you something silly but everyone else likes it, that may be a hint that they want a silly game, likewise for darker stuff.

I.. I get the feeling that that response wasn't intended for me, or this thread. Either that, or I believe you just had a stroke, Nimsim, because I have no idea what you're on about.

It was in response to you saying you have a hard time adjusting the setting on the fly as a GM. I was saying that when you're stuck for something to say on the fly you can always throw it back to your players for ideas.

Thanks.

Sigh ... homebrew sector it is. How does the name 'Thanatos Sector' sound...?

You could save yourself some work an use this one: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Setting:Tiji_Sector

Wow, that's impressive. I almost sprayed soda out of my nose when I saw the 'Gygaxian Subsector".

Page 319 ( "As the 41st Millennium draws to a close...") .

Page 321 ( "In the ten millennia that have passed since the founding of Askellon..." - Askellon was founded during the Great Crusade, which was M31).

So 2nd Ed takes place about 180 years after 1st Ed.

BYE

Two flawed assumptions:

The 41st Millennium drawing to a close could easily reflect any period in the Time of Ending (the last two hundred and fifty years of that Millennium, as defined in the last few 40k rulebooks).

Secondly, the Great Crusades didn't take place within the 31st Millennium. The Siege of Terra is said - in one of the few sources about it to give any kind of date - to have begun on "the thirteenth of Secundus" in 012.M31. Assuming that Secundus is the second month and thus analogous to February, the Imperial datestamp associated with the start of the Siege of Terra would be somewhere between 0120012.M31 and 0123012.M31 (check digit is 0, as it's an event occurring on Terra itself, chronosegment is between 120-123). The Heresy lasted a little over a decade, so would have started at the very end of the 30th Millennium or the very beginning of the 31st Millennium.

Consequently, any world conquered during the Great Crusades would have been conquered during the closing centuries of the 30th Millennium - most (though not all) of the dates we have for events of the Great Crusades are in the last two hundred and fifty years of M30. Consequently, any sector conquered during the Great Crusades would have been under Imperial control for exactly ten thousand years at some point in the Time of Ending.

I've never had much problem changing times, and to me the issue of time in a game where time is presented as being so malleable as 40K is kind of a red herring. If we're gona talk about heresy stuff, there's a line in the book 'Legion' that mentions a final ending not being for another 20,000 years? Or maybe I remember it wrong, I don't have access to that book to fact check myself on that claim. There was also a line in one of the novels set to support the original Dark Heresy where a character was ruminating on what might happen at the turn of the millennium, and provided what might be some rumors floating around in the minds of the average Imperial citizen, and probably even in the minds of higher ranking nobles. I like the analogy to Y2K, and I certainly plan to use it like that. There will probably some major plots and riots and whatnot to mark the event on various worlds, but nothing cataclysmic. It's just a date, it's events and plots that cause cataclysms, not dates on calendars, which are arbitrary by nature.