Thanks for the heads up!

Middle-aged white men crack! ON SALE!

Bought 4...

*Sigh* I have no money until next week. Anywho I think four is more than enough for now. I only bought the fourth one to fit into my e-wing list.

I don't see how these could win a tournament.

Hlc, Phantoms, Fel, Firespray eat these things up.

Anything that can maneuver, or equip a hlc shreds em

32 hit points is no laughing matter.

...plus, there's the other main benefit of a swarm: action denial!

I got really excited for a moment.....

then didn't buy any.

because honestly, who gives a ****?

Oh I don't know, a friend of mine flys Z-95's and he does well with them, its really the equivalent to Tie Fighters for the rebels except Z-95's have the luxury of shields and the ability to carry missiles, while also having target lock which effectively acts like every ship has his personal howlrunner onboard. I'm not sure if its competition worthy, but if you can build a mini swarm at 50 points. He makes it even tougher for me by flying Wedge with them.

Z95 are nothing like tie fighters

2 evade vs 3 is a huge difference.

Hlc and missles eat these things up.

I've seen game where is lose one before it fires.

When I use ties they do not very one shooted as easily as a Z. Even though a tie has one less hp, that barrel roll, focus, evade is awesome.

Having a target lock is nothing like having howl's ability.

With Howlrunner with my ties I can re roll one dice and then focus.

With a Z you can target lock but no focus.

The damage output on them is low.

Yes they can equip missles but when focus fired they drop fast.

I don't see how these could win a tournament.

Hlc, Phantoms, Fel, Firespray eat these things up.

Anything that can maneuver, or equip a hlc shreds em

According to Juggler, the Z is more resilient then the Tie.

Ties get 1 shorted all the time in practically every game I play. Its not nearly as easy to 1 shot a 4 HP ship as it is a 3 HP ship.

Green dice are worthless, haven't you gotten the memo?

Man I was trying to get 7 and they sold out as I was checking out. Bummer

Man I was trying to get 7 and they sold out as I was checking out. Bummer

I was trying to figure out if it just goes into backorder or what.

Lol...already sold out...Cest la vie

Dang...already sold out...

Z95 are nothing like tie fighters

2 evade vs 3 is a huge difference.

This is a common misconception, although it does depend on the specific matchups. If you consider a variety of different shots across the entire meta game, and the effects of critical hits, then Z-95s are actually a hair more durable than TIE Fighters.

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/100360-using-lanchesters-square-law-to-predict-ships-jousting-values-and-fair-point-values-work-in-progress/?p=1000110

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4i-dE5epNFzeloyRGVjSlVFNlk

Anything drops fast when focus fired. It's durability per point cost is extraordinarily high. The damage output per cost is still quite good, on par with the X-wing and B-wing.

When ever I have a generic z95 in play it seems like it gets to do very little

A lot of times I am up against firespray with hlc, or Phantoms.

Hlc really hurts cause they they don't get their range bonus.

I never ever rely on the green dice, but from what I've seen is ties seem to work better in a mini swarm with Howlrunner over a mini swarm of Z flying along side the Falcon for example.

I'm not a real fan.

Cracken is nice but still dies just as fast as a generic.

I don't know

Maybe it's because when I use Z I don't have a many in play as I would maybe ties.

Maybe having 8 would be a difference as that is a lot of HP

When ever I have a generic z95 in play it seems like it gets to do very little

Maybe it's because when I use Z I don't have a many in play as I would maybe ties.

Maybe having 8 would be a difference as that is a lot of HP

Yeah, there is strength in numbers. Everything is all about points spent, and 12 points by itself is not going to do much. Combat power is proportional to the number of ships squared, so all else being equal, 4 TIE Fighters are going to be 16x better than 1 Z-95.

Interestingly, the efficiency stats looking at only generic pilots + named YT-1300 cast the Z-95 in an even more favorable light. It takes #1 at 125%, followed by the standard TIE Fighter at 113%. Named YT-1300, generic B-wing, generic Lambda, generic Y-wing are all around 100% (break-even, average). Everything else is clearly below average.

This is all wave 4 meta only. The meta can shift, during wave 3 Regionals generic Interceptors were doing well, getting sprinkled into 6 TIE Swarms.

Cool, a fellow Dragonlance fan.

There are several Z95 swarm battle reports in the X-wing battle report sub-forum. There is even one against firespray HLC/Doom shutter/defender. In most of them, the Z swarm came up on top.

Again.. Not a surprise. The extra evade die is nothing compared to 2 shield... 2 shield is as better than having the evade ability which is largely useless on Ties because if your evading 50% of what makes Ties worth anything disappears. Target lock is better than a howlrunner because howlrunner can die, target locks do not. It's no contest z95'S are better.

Again.. Not a surprise. The extra evade die is nothing compared to 2 shield... 2 shield is as better than having the evade ability which is largely useless on Ties because if your evading 50% of what makes Ties worth anything disappears. Target lock is better than a howlrunner because howlrunner can die, target locks do not. It's no contest z95'S are better.

Except I can focus and Howlrunner in the same turn...and not telegraph who I am shooting at...

True..howl can and will die...but while she is around she works better and is more flexing let than a target lock...I can also use your fear of her to get you to take less than optimal shots.

Wow... The American dollar really isn't worth much these days is it. I got four of them with international shipping for 322 crowns... That really is dirt cheap.

It's only going to get worse and very soon. That's what 20 trillion in fiat currency will do

Again.. Not a surprise. The extra evade die is nothing compared to 2 shield... 2 shield is as better than having the evade ability which is largely useless on Ties because if your evading 50% of what makes Ties worth anything disappears. Target lock is better than a howlrunner because howlrunner can die, target locks do not. It's no contest z95'S are better.

Except I can focus and Howlrunner in the same turn...and not telegraph who I am shooting at...

True..howl can and will die...but while she is around she works better and is more flexing let than a target lock...I can also use your fear of her to get you to take less than optimal shots.

True, but when it comes down to it in a contest of z95 and Tie Swarm, howlrunner will die in round 2.. It's a certainty, I don't think that's nearly as good as target lock. Which when eliminated, breaks the focus advantage.

I think a better argument for Tie swarms is their dial superiority. Ties have that advantage which I think is far more potent.

edit: Which is to say a more skillful player in control of a Tie Swarm can improve his odds a great deal more then a skillful player behind the controls of a Z95 swarm. Z95 is better mathematically and logically, but when it comes to skill, Tie swarms offer more flexibility. Even that however obviously has its limits given tournaments stats, clearly with players of equal (or similar) skill, Tie's lose the match up.

Seriously tempted to get 2 or 3 or them but am quite afraid of getting stung by customs... (UK based)

I'm UK too. Last time I ordered from MM, I had to pay customs. Was about a tenner. I ordered 6 to make sure I would still save even with customs

Out of stock! Bummer...

Thanks for the tip! I now have a mini swarm of Z-95's locked in on my mailbox.

Out of stock! Bummer...

Phooey, I see this and then go to look and it say's they're already sold out. I know I could have used more but didn't get them then but now it looks like I'll wait some more.

#1 efficiency is, interestingly enough, the Lambda Shuttle. You can thank Dom for pushing it over the edge in Chicago Regionals.

Just so that I understand, your efficiency rating is based off observed real-game results (induction), rather than deductively calculating the efficiency based on given values, correct?

#1 efficiency is, interestingly enough, the Lambda Shuttle. You can thank Dom for pushing it over the edge in Chicago Regionals.

Just so that I understand, your efficiency rating is based off observed real-game results (induction), rather than deductively calculating the efficiency based on given values, correct?

In this context, yes, it is based on measured Regionals results (not MathWing). I'm in the process of updating wave 3 statistics now.

#1 efficiency is, interestingly enough, the Lambda Shuttle. You can thank Dom for pushing it over the edge in Chicago Regionals.

Just so that I understand, your efficiency rating is based off observed real-game results (induction), rather than deductively calculating the efficiency based on given values, correct?

In this context, yes, it is based on measured Regionals results (not MathWing). I'm in the process of updating wave 3 statistics now.

Good.

I like that it factors in people's bounded rationality, though I'm not sure what lessons I should draw from that for use at the micro-level.