So how long is it going to take for an FAQ entry on the VT-49 discussing exactly what ships take damage that it has flown over/through and backed up over/through and ends up touching?

You know what's cheap? Ion pulse missiles. As a rebel, I'm looking forward to taking these things down with a swarm of Zs...

Big O(Captain Oicunn) now an kill a phantom with auto damage in 2 ways! Maybe more!

Step A- ram phantom. 1 damage...

Step B- Activate Daredevil to ram phantom again. 2 damage

Step C- Dauntless for boosting off of phantom.

Step D- Shoot at Phantom with 4 attack dice. Hit + Vader = dead phantom

Step D2, if required: Activate gunner if miss. Activate Vader = dead phantom

Add Experimental interface and after Step C you can drop a seismic!

Add Ruthlessness somehow and you don't even have to shoot the phantom, you can shoot it's friends and ruthlessness it instead...

Now those are all far from garunteed but this is the type of shenanigans that you can pull off... I might have some of the ordering off but I'm pretty sure it can be done. BUT IT AINT CHEAP

I don't think I can say just how fired up I am right now. I am pre ordering 2 already and this just sums up that was the right call. As it seems you can make a couple a really potent force in 100 pts, can't wait to see them in epic games as well.

So the Tie Defender gets all 1 and 2 turns Red, but the Decimator has 0 Red manueuvers? For the largest, non-huge ship in the game, it sure is nimble.

Edit: Correction to Defender 1 and 2 turns are Red.

So the Tie Defender gets all 2 and 3 turns Red, but the Decimator has 0 Red manueuvers? For the largest, non-huge ship in the game, it sure is nimble.

1 and 2 are red for the Defender. 3 turn is white, and it has barrel roll as an action to end up in mostly the same place as a 2 turn without getting stressed. The Defender doesn't lack being nimble, it lacks the maneuvers you usually use to clear stress...but since it can go 5 forward as a green it can get by.

As for the Decimator, after seeing the green 2 banks in the first preview image I expected a decent dial but I don't think anyone expected it to be as solid as it is. It's an E-wing minus the K-turns and 5 forward. I guess to help make up for it having no agility.

Anyone else think it makes no sense what so ever that this ship can't equip a heavy laser cannon because the HLC icon is not on the upgrades for it?

Smaller ships like the B-wing can get a HLC, Slave 1 can, TIE defender can. The Lambda shuttle, that is not a warship, can equip a HLC. But this large ship that is the same game scale as the shuttle and built for combat can't have a heavy laser cannon?

FFG needs some consitency with the rules. This makes no sense.

Okay, I think I have all of these cards up on the Wikia page, but i've not had the mental space to internalize any of it.

That said, I think I'm pretty tickled that I'll be getting it as soon as it hits the FLGS (with the lag-time being my ability to drag my carcass down there to pick it up). I won't be able to have a real star destroyer, but running this bulldozer around the mat will certainly be a lot of fun. I think Captain Oicunn is going to be my fav.

Anyone else think it makes no sense what so ever that this ship can't equip a heavy laser cannon because the HLC icon is not on the upgrades for it?

Smaller ships like the B-wing can get a HLC, Slave 1 can, TIE defender can. The Lambda shuttle, that is not a warship, can equip a HLC. But this large ship that is the same game scale as the shuttle and built for combat can't have a heavy laser cannon?

FFG needs some consitency with the rules. This makes no sense.

Bottom-up design is a wonderful thing.

Okay, I think I have all of these cards up on the Wikia page, but i've not had the mental space to internalize any of it.

Yeah we've been spoiled rotten this afternoon!

Yeah, these previews speak to them both building up interest in Wave 5, while also getting the official spoilers out there before it's all spoiled after someone buys them. A month and half before release means they easily could've flown some in.

I think it's more likely that they are announcing imperial aces v2 that includes a TiE advanced and/or the first imperial big ship.

Finally, Lord Vader has a ship that can handle him longer than the shuttle. 3-dice turret plus Vader crit? Good times.

I find it amusing that if Oicunn hits a huge ship it damages the huge ship, but if the huge ship hits him he explodes.

Finally, Lord Vader has a ship that can handle him longer than the shuttle. 3-dice turret plus Vader crit? Good times.

Oh crap. I just realized how screwed interceptors are.

Man a Ruthlessness Black Squad would be a lot of fun... too bad I'd have to buy a small armada...

Black Squad + Ruthlessness + Hull x5?

what is that little ship on the intimidation card?

A hutt fighter from Star Wars Galaxies.

Pretty sure that fighter's smaller than a Hutt.

Moff Jerjerrod is interesting, but he should be one point because it costs you one or more crew slots and he doesn't discard the damage. It works on any critical, unlike Determination, but Det. discards the result, can work more than once, and is only one point.

Intelligence agents will be spaced in mass

"Intelligence".

I'm a little confused on the wording. Ruthlessness can effect your own ships, right?

What part of Ruthlessness didn't you understand?

The Moff is just executing all the crew, what gives?!

He's not executing them at all. He's blaming his own incompetence on his subordinates, with Vader taking his typically... uh, direct... approach to dealing with failure.

On a related note, this guy is capable of sacrificing the Dark Lord of the Sith, or making him sacrifice himself. Who was the real threat all along???

MUST PURCHASE THREE... THREE... THREE...

I was going to ask the guy who said he'd buy one, "Just one?" Then there's this guy, lol.

Oicunn's ability is pretty easy to understand. You execute a maneuver, which includes determining if you are overlapping and then pulling your ship back along the template until you fit. Any ship you are touching at that moment receives damage. The APL FAQ clears this up pretty nicely.

Out of all the expansions they've released, this is the one I've been the most excited about. I need the cards. All of them. In multiples.

MUST PURCHASE THREE... THREE... THREE...

I was going to ask the guy who said he'd buy one, "Just one?" Then there's this guy, lol.

EPIC needs three...no less than three. Must... have... three!!!

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

If you're assuming that maneuver dials make no difference because they're turreted ships, then sure, why not. Otherwise, no.

Yeah it looks like it is, but that is fine by me. The Falcon is cool because of Han Solo and Chewbacca. The ship is not so super-duper, just look at a plain outer rim smuggler.

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

Yes that thing that was just spoiled that is not out yet that no one has flown yet that most definitely wasn't tested by the designers of a remarkably well-balanced game is most definitely more powerful than that other thing.

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

Yes that thing that was just spoiled that is not out yet that no one has flown yet that most definitely wasn't tested by the designers of a remarkably well-balanced game is most definitely more powerful than that other thing.

Or are you saying that anything more powerful than the Falcon would obviously be broken, so the designers wouldn't let it out the door? Or maybe the Falcon holds a special place in Star Wars lore, so they'd never build anything better? Would you make the same response if I asked if the Decimator is officially more powerful than the TIE Advanced?

Because I'm a bit confused here. He asked if it would be better than the Falcon, and your response basically snarks about the devs not breaking the game. Which seems rather badly misplaced even before we bring the Advanced into the mix.

Seriously, are we just using a Magic 8 Ball of fanboy responses at this point?

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

Yes that thing that was just spoiled that is not out yet that no one has flown yet that most definitely wasn't tested by the designers of a remarkably well-balanced game is most definitely more powerful than that other thing.

So every ship is exactly as powerful as every other ship?

Or are you saying that anything more powerful than the Falcon would obviously be broken, so the designers wouldn't let it out the door? Or maybe the Falcon holds a special place in Star Wars lore, so they'd never build anything better? Would you make the same response if I asked if the Decimator is officially more powerful than the TIE Advanced?

Because I'm a bit confused here. He asked if it would be better than the Falcon, and your response basically snarks about the devs not breaking the game. Which seems rather badly misplaced even before we bring the Advanced into the mix.

Seriously, are we just using a Magic 8 Ball of fanboy responses at this point?

Answer unclear. Ask again later.

That pilot ability is extremely interesting.... and everyone is now wondering, exactly how durable will he be?

MathWing to the rescue!

So lets just assume that this ability kicks in after you take 2 damage. So the first 4 shields and 2 hull is behind 0 agility, and the remaining 10 hull is behind 1 agility. How durable is that?

I'm getting numbers of 2.53 - 2.84 relative to a TIE Fighter, with a "normal" value of 2.75. That, my friends, is the most durable ship in the game. Here are some comparison numbers with the other large base ships:

VT-49 (Kenkirk): 2.75

YT-2400: 2.60

Firespray: 2.57

YT-1300 (named): 2.49

VT-49: 2.34

Lambda Shuttle: 1.94

YT-1300 (ORS): 1.92

It's on par with the named YT-1300 for the best jousting value in the game for any ship with a 360 degree turret:

Named YT-1300 (42@ PS5 = 37 @ PS1): 70.0%

Kenkirk (44@ PS6 = 38 @ PS1 + 1 for EPT = 39 @ PS1)*: 69.9%

YT-2400 (32@PS3 = 29@ PS1): 68.1%

VT-49 (40(?)@ PS3 = 38 @ PS1): 66.0%

Outer Rim Smuggler (27 @PS1): 62.4%

* His pilot ability costs 1, and its affect is fully considered in the ship durability, so his PS1 equivalent cost is essentially 1 higher than the generic, or other any other VT-49 before considering their pilot ability.

And, oh, look, it's the Imperial equivalent of C-3P0! One free evade every round after you have taken at least 5 damage!

But wait, it can get better! If you don't mind eating up your EPT and flying alone, you can also slap on this from the YT-2400 pack:

... so now your 1 agility has a 60% chance of rolling an evade.

Edit: Although Determination is still probably a better EPT for him. That's a tough call.

I haven't even MathWing'ed the last two yet. Nor would it be easy to. But Kenkirk at least is looking like the Imperial Chewie of large ships. I bet he will be a consistent performer in the competitive meta.

I'm already thinking of bringing him with Echo, and put Lone Wolf on one of them.

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

it's an interesting question, Ysanne will be better than C3PO once you've reached that level of damage. The problem being.. getting to that damage level without going to far past it before she triggers.

Would suck to loose your shielding than get hit with proton rockets when you still have full hull..

but overall it looks like the Decimator has the potential to take over the Falcons place.

So, is the Decimator officially more powerful than the Falcon? It sure seems like it to me...

it's an interesting question, Ysanne will be better than C3PO once you've reached that level of damage. The problem being.. getting to that damage level without going to far past it before she triggers.

Would suck to loose your shielding than get hit with proton rockets when you still have full hull..

but overall it looks like the Decimator has the potential to take over the Falcons place.

Ysanne gives only one evade token, which is the same as what C3-PO can give. The difference is you can deny an agility die to turn off C3-PO, but stress effects affect Ysanne. They're pretty equivalent in my mind, but Ysanne costs one point more for some reason.