Thing about Lando is, he can be either offensive or defensive, based on the results.
He can also do absolutely nothing.
Edit: Which fits the flavor of the card art as it depicts gambling.
Edited by TheGreedyMerchantThing about Lando is, he can be either offensive or defensive, based on the results.
He can also do absolutely nothing.
Edit: Which fits the flavor of the card art as it depicts gambling.
Edited by TheGreedyMerchantis black squadrons the cheapest ships we could do this on? i think so... mwhahah!
black squad
expose
experimental interface
21 points... cost of a naked saber squadron. Not sure.. thinking predator is still more viable. what do you all think?
Royal Guard Pilot + RG title + EI + Hull+ Marksmanship = PS 6 super Fel who does more crits...
Expose is the Decimator's friend. EI might be worth it depending on the dial.
4 dice Decimator attacks with a turret is going to be punishing.
There's a new YT-2400 preview up here (and a thread here for discussing it). I specifically want to talk about a new combo, though:
This is the cost of an HLC, and fills up your EPT and modification slots. But it effectively eliminates the action cost of Expose, which mathematically is the biggest thing that's been standing in its way--replacing it with a stress cost.Who's this good for?
Who's it not good for?
- Decimators with EPTs will like it a lot, since it makes their 360 attack even stronger and because they don't feel the Agility penalty at all.
- B-wings with EPTs might like it, and Keyan in particular can use it to hit like a Phantom every round (he basically gets 4 Attack + focus plus either TL or barrel roll). The downside there, though, is that he'll have 8 hp on effectively 0 Agility... and he's a third of your list.
- Soontir Fel might like it; although it makes him 34 points and gives up the BR+boost combo, the potential for 4 Attack with focus when he is out of arc could make up for it.
- You could plausibly run this on Wedge, Wes, or Luke with an R2 Astromech, or on Hobbie with R2-D6. The expense (8 points, with an R2 unit!) and Agility cost are still big, but Biggs can help make up for the latter.
Other thoughts?
- Any ship that has trouble clearing stress. HWKs might actually like it, in combination with Blaster Turret + Recon Specialist, but even if it weren't too expensive it just restricts their movement too drastically.
- Any ship that would rather have PTL for more flexible choices with their actions--this is, of course, the main problem with running Expose + EI on Soontir.
- Any ship whose modification slot is already spoken for; I'm looking at you here, Phantoms.
Thoughts about Mauler Mithel with this? Makes for a pretty devastating R1 shot.
Edited by AlexWI immediately jumped to MM and it too. Not sure it's worth 24pts to have a 3/2/3/0... Sure jumps to 5/2/3/0 at range 1... but you're already in interceptor point territory and not far from phantoms either.
Edited by Rakky Wistol
Vader + Expose + Experimental Interface = 36 points
PS9, laying down 3/4 dice attacks with Focus/Target Lock to back them up. Probably too many points.
Too expensive and the Advanced isn't actually great at shedding stress, so Vader could end up trapped in an awkward position.
Vessery + Expose + Experimental Interface = 42
4/5 dice, re-rolling hits with friendly TLs, with the native action used to Focus or Barrel Roll into/out of arcs.
The problem here, I think, is that it's the same price as HLC. Expose + EI is better at Range 1, but HLC is better at Range 3--and HLC never gives you stress.
Yeah, that HLC is so good.
I immediately jumped to MM and it too. Not sure it's worth 24pts to have a 3/2/3/0... Sure jumps to 5/2/3/0 at range 1... but you're already in interceptor point territory and not far from phantoms either.
Right, his competition would be a PTL saber as a flanker in most lists.. So, you're essentially paying for the pilot skill and better information about whether expose would be useful.
5 dice from a TIE Fighter does have some pretty high style points, though.
I wanna try that out with Tycho,
lets see
Tycho + vet title + expose + push the limit + experimental interface and the -2 chardaan...
hmm... sounds like fun, to bad that you cant get a barrel on him also for uber jinkiness ![]()
but still wanna try him out, maybe even along an also uber jinky E-wing ![]()
, to bad that you cant get a barrel on him also for uber jinkiness
Expert handling instead of expose. That's what I suggested a few pages ago. Tycho boosting, rolling and focusing every turn.
I see your Expert Handling and raise you a Daredevil.
Decimator= 4-5 dice of destruction. This is going to be fun to run against fat falcons.
I'm SO excited for the Decimator right now... finally an answer to the Falcons. Phantom + Decimator 2 ship list, hopefully?
It is indeed a cold day in hell. We are talking about serious usage of Expose.
I know, what next? Serious usage of Saboteur? ![]()
He was specifically requesting a barrel roll.
I did suggest DD as well. Think I like EH though just to be giving Tycho 3 stress a turn.
It is indeed a cold day in hell. We are talking about serious usage of Expose.
I know, what next? Serious usage of Saboteur?
I've thought about it, but I still think Saboteur is too hard to use and too inconsistent.
It is indeed a cold day in hell. We are talking about serious usage of Expose.
I know, what next? Serious usage of Saboteur?
I've thought about it, but I still think Saboteur is too hard to use and too inconsistent.
Honestly, that's how I feel about Tactician on large ships, even the Firespray. The times I have someone in my R2 is so limited and not always the person I want to shoot.
It is indeed a cold day in hell. We are talking about serious usage of Expose.
I know, what next? Serious usage of Saboteur?
I've thought about it, but I still think Saboteur is too hard to use and too inconsistent.
Experimental Interface + Saboteur? Anyone? Bueller?
It is indeed a cold day in hell. We are talking about serious usage of Expose.
I know, what next? Serious usage of Saboteur?
I've thought about it, but I still think Saboteur is too hard to use and too inconsistent.
Experimental Interface + Saboteur? Anyone? Bueller?
I'm pretty sure Moff Jerjerrod has a VERY good use for a Saboteur in a Decimator ![]()
Would Corran Horn make good use of this combo? Or would he just prefer marksmanship + EI?
Edited by AllDeadDavePretty sure expose is still absolutely terrible except in extremely niche circumstances. And by circumstances, I mean one. And by one, I mean the decimator.
Quick comparison between HLC and Expose (FP:3) + Interface.
Both cost 7.
Both allow firing with Focus or Target lock.
HLC takes up one less upgrade slot.
HLC reduces target evasion by one at R3.
HLC does not cause a stress every turn.
HLC does not reduce your agility by one every turn.
HLC has one less die at range 1
HLC deals no crits.
The range 1 and range three differences largely cancel each other out. So essentially, for the same points you are choosing to roll one less evade die and be stressed every turn. Still terrible.
The only ship I see this working on is the decimator (and not the defensive one) because of two reasons. A. It has a turret. B. It has zero agility to begin with.
As you can see, this "combo" is pretty terrible on anything that can take an HLC and has one ship that might do okay with it...
Edited by AndOneWhy would HLC have one less die at range one.. doesn't it only fire at 2-3..
A Decimator with Expose rolls 5 dice at Range 1; a ship with HLC will roll 4 since they have to use their primary weapon.
Edited by kraedinAhhh ok, yeah wasn't thinking about it that way.. lol... ok
He was specifically requesting a barrel roll.
I did suggest DD as well. Think I like EH though just to be giving Tycho 3 stress a turn.
Daredevil gives you stress, so you get the 3 per turn either way.
Which basically means that Tycho does not K-turn ever.
Deleted cause I'm dumb.
Edited by Silver Crane