So basically everything that this game references as far as continuity with the greater SW universe out there is now considered part of the "Legends" nuked continuity... Has there been any talk of the rpg playing catchup and aligning with the new Disney continuity?

Because, say, a Rebels sourcebook detailing the birth of the alliance under the new continuity wouldn't jive with anything written in the Age of Rebellion (as far as in-universe history) is concerned.

I wonder if FFG is planning on hopping unto the new continuity... as it is now, both the rpg and xwing exist in the "Legends" universe, outside of canon.

The game is focusing very narrowly on the timeline. The two core books out now have both begun at essentially the same time which is after the battle of Yavin. I have no doubt that force and destiny will begin at the same point. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say continuity since the books are taking place square in the middle of the classic Star Wars sweet spot.

In regards to the Legends material Disney said things released going forward were going to be considered canon. This game very much gets passed through the canon police per Sam on a podcast when discussing the working relationship. Those determinations about canon were announced prior to AoR. So really what is in AoR is canon.

The other day, reading the sourcebook of Enter the Unknown, I saw that there are mentions to things like the Infinite Empire. In the EtU book these are stated as cannon, but now they are not, or more precisely, they are Legends. I wonder if the SW FFG team is going through a full revision of their future releases because now Disney bought SW.

I don't think Disney is going to trouble itself terribly much with anything prior to Clone Wars if its in the distant past save for maybe Yodas early days. Obviously post Endor is going to be a no go zone along with Clone Wars to Star Wars.

I think that these games will remain fully Legends-based. They still stick with things like the separation of the Imperial Army from the Stormtrooper Corps despite the new canon, and I have every reason to believe that we'll see plenty of Legends material in the Force and Destiny Beta.

To put it as simple as possible: the "Legends" doesn't mean it's "nuked" from canon, it only means that it's canon status is uncertain until it is referenced or contradicted in any future published stories, be it film, tv-series, comics, novels etc. If it isn't referenced it can both be canon and not, at least for your games. Anything Legends is potentially canon, Legends is being used as inspiration for the new stories we're getting, but it is no longer holy or untouchable, which is a good thing I think.

Now, as HD points out, this being a roleplaying game it is less imperative that it adheres to the canon, as people will play their own stories, make up their own twists and turns, which can never be canon, but would - insofar as it makes sense to use the term in this context - give any stuff produced through gaming the "Legends" label, of course it will never be "Legends" (or perhaps some of FFGs published stuff could be?) as LF/Disney will most likely never participate in your games or read your online journals and so on, so it cannot serve as inspiration even.

The game is focusing very narrowly on the timeline. The two core books out now have both begun at essentially the same time which is after the battle of Yavin. I have no doubt that force and destiny will begin at the same point. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say continuity since the books are taking place square in the middle of the classic Star Wars sweet spot.

In regards to the Legends material Disney said things released going forward were going to be considered canon. This game very much gets passed through the canon police per Sam on a podcast when discussing the working relationship. Those determinations about canon were announced prior to AoR. So really what is in AoR is canon.

I'm interested in which podcast that might be. I'm guessing the Order 66 podcast, which i don't listen to, so if it is that one, which episode should i not listen to ?

@Poseur, why the eff not!? It is a pretty good podcast with a ton if great content, and it's free! I highly recommend it! As to the episode in reference...I don't know.

@Jegergrtye. You are quite right. I think people are getting this canon and legends thing way to blown up. All Legends is saying is that what has been written can be overturned by new material coming out. Garm Bel Iblis has not been wiped out, YT-1300, which first appeared in either the Brain Daley books or from WEG, Kuat Drive Yards, BlasTech DL-44, Rodians, Ithorians, about everything thing else we know has not been wiped clean into non-exsistance. People, please quit overreacting.

WEG, for better or for worse, gave us so much info on the Star Wars universe in the early days that has now become canon, as did Zahn. If Legends wipes out ALL "non canon" stuff in one fell swoop like a Death Star Blast on Alderaan, we would loose almost everything we know, or thought we knew about this Universe.

All "Legends" is may or may not be contradicted in later TV show, Movie or books, etc. Right now there are at least three ways the Death Star plans fell into the Rebels hands. In one book Jedi Even Piell survived Oder 66 only to die later on Coruscant, but in The Clones Wars he dies before EP III. So which one is correct? That is all Legends and Canon is, which one is correct. But if you loved "Coruscant Nights I: Jedi Twilight" then still love it, but to the official Canon, Even died before EP III.

For me, if it means getting new SW on TV and on the big screen, then I'm all for a few books getting pushed in to a side continuity of some sorts.

As to the RPG line, they will follow the Canon as set by Disney. X-wing I have no thoughts on as a I don't play that game.

Final thought after re reading some of the earlier posts in this thread. Just because something has the "Legends" does not make it incorrect or a fallacy. Legends is not Infinities. So stuff like the Infinite Empire, Xim the Despot, and about everything else is still part of Star Wars, but at one point, it can be wiped out from a new source. The new writers, stories do not have to conform to anything already, but can use the Chiss, The Noghri, Incom, Industrial Automaton.

The game is focusing very narrowly on the timeline. The two core books out now have both begun at essentially the same time which is after the battle of Yavin. I have no doubt that force and destiny will begin at the same point. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say continuity since the books are taking place square in the middle of the classic Star Wars sweet spot.

In regards to the Legends material Disney said things released going forward were going to be considered canon. This game very much gets passed through the canon police per Sam on a podcast when discussing the working relationship. Those determinations about canon were announced prior to AoR. So really what is in AoR is canon.

I'm interested in which podcast that might be. I'm guessing the Order 66 podcast, which i don't listen to, so if it is that one, which episode should i not listen to ?

I know Sam Stewart goes into some detail in episode 30 while talking about the Suns of Fortune source book.

The game is focusing very narrowly on the timeline. The two core books out now have both begun at essentially the same time which is after the battle of Yavin. I have no doubt that force and destiny will begin at the same point. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say continuity since the books are taking place square in the middle of the classic Star Wars sweet spot.

In regards to the Legends material Disney said things released going forward were going to be considered canon. This game very much gets passed through the canon police per Sam on a podcast when discussing the working relationship. Those determinations about canon were announced prior to AoR. So really what is in AoR is canon.

I'm interested in which podcast that might be. I'm guessing the Order 66 podcast, which i don't listen to, so if it is that one, which episode should i not listen to ?

I wouldn't listen to the podcast, they're dreadfully long, and what he says is essentially what I wrote. They do get clearance from on high for what gets published in their books.

@Poseur, why the eff not!? It is a pretty good podcast with a ton if great content, and it's free! I highly recommend it! As to the episode in reference...I don't know.

I just want to point out that "I never listen to the Order 66 podcast". Listening to it might get you into trouble with the ISB, I'be heard. And listening to such anti-imperial propaganda is clearly an act of treason.

The game is focusing very narrowly on the timeline. The two core books out now have both begun at essentially the same time which is after the battle of Yavin. I have no doubt that force and destiny will begin at the same point. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say continuity since the books are taking place square in the middle of the classic Star Wars sweet spot.

In regards to the Legends material Disney said things released going forward were going to be considered canon. This game very much gets passed through the canon police per Sam on a podcast when discussing the working relationship. Those determinations about canon were announced prior to AoR. So really what is in AoR is canon.

I'm interested in which podcast that might be. I'm guessing the Order 66 podcast, which i don't listen to, so if it is that one, which episode should i not listen to ?

I know Sam Stewart goes into some detail in episode 30 while talking about the Suns of Fortune source book.

Thanks, now I know what episode I shall not listen to, again... Emhm never.

Really, all you're required to take from the RPG is the playing mechanics. You're totally allowed to pick and choose every other aspect of the game, down to the time period you're playing in and what's canon or not. Everything except for how you build characters, spend experience, and roll dice can be considered optional.

That said, as Disney had acquired Lucasfilm before Edge of the Empire was released (maybe, even, before the development cycle had started or gone into full swing), I would think that it's safe to assume whatever's mentioned in the books is canon. I have no doubt that Disney has some say over what goes into the RPGs, and if there was anything in there they specifically cared about denying, they would have done so.

Not to say they can't still do that further down the road, but my guess is they're primarily concerned with Rebels and what's happening post-Endor. Everything else will be met with a shrug of god.

Order 66 Podcast Episode 34, Firing the Canon.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/order-66-podcast/id276381727?mt=2

I'm interested in which podcast that might be. I'm guessing the Order 66 podcast, which i don't listen to, so if it is that one, which episode should i not listen to ?

I see what you did there...now... Sorry, I have been a triangle with an angle greater than 90 degrees...

I never listen either.

Personally, I think the whole issue is overblown. Who cares if a 10-year old novel or comic is no longer 'official'? It's not like that crap is 'real' anyway. If you enjoyed the story, you'll still enjoy the story when you pick it up and read it a 2nd time. It's not like the Disney Canon Cops are going to storm your house to burn your old books.

The worst thing about nerd culture is when some bit of what we like gets translated into a new medium and we waste all our **** time arguing about what's wrong with the new version rather than just enjoying it for what it is.

I believe that Lucasfilm has stated that all media going forward - including games - will be considered canon.

Though it is interesting how much the EU and some elements that are now canon (according to some elements in the upcoming Rebels tv show) started as RPG material.

When the announcement regarding canon, legacy and canon going forward was announced on starwars.com there was a video presentation that went with it - the camera scanned a bookshelf mostly filled with gaming books - with Pablo Hidalgo mentioning his favorite was the WEG StarWars Sourcebook (it also shows an RPG entry for Inquisitor Tremayne followed by footage of the Inquisitor in Rebels).

I don't particularly care if the RPGs are considered canon - I like departing from canon in my games but it would be interesting to have this specifically confirmed.

The biggest impact this will have is that source books will stick to the "new" canon.

But hopefully the system mechanics are robust enough that they aren't locked into specific eras (e.g., You can run an Old Republic game using EotE, AoR, and F&D).

This Legends/Canon thing was mostly for Disney to simultaneously demonstrate ownership and control of the IP while also freeing themselves of being held to any boundaries in regards to the direction of the story.

Yeah, Rebels is going to have the ISB and an Inquisitor. Both, I believe, were things created by WEG for the old D6 RPG.

Yah, they clearly don't mind farming EU for names and places and such. They simply don't want to be bound to definitions and backgrounds.

Yah, they clearly don't mind farming EU for names and places and such. They simply don't want to be bound to definitions and backgrounds.

Honestly, who would be? There is some fantastic stuff in the EU, but there are also some really, really dumb stuff that should be taken out back, flogged, burned, buried, and never spoken of again.

I think they are really going to shake things up with these new movies in regards to the story post Endor and a lot of assumptions about how things played out. I think that's a big motivation in this canon purge as it allows them to make all aspects new and fresh. Even the parts I like of the EU I'm really not interested is seeing covered verbatim. Something old and something new is nice.

I couldn't agree more. Given how many novels have come out in the post-Endor period since the mid-90's, there's not a lot of fertile soil left in that field.

Unless you plow that field under.....

Yeah, Rebels is going to have the ISB and an Inquisitor. Both, I believe, were things created by WEG for the old D6 RPG.

Inquisitors were mentioned in the radio drama from 1981 so they predate WEG. However, I doubt the guys doing Rebels know that.