Sounds like he had a system that increased his odd.

My dice are marked but simply so I can get my dice back. I've had multiple games where people tell me they had X number of dice and now they are missing one. I go through and show them all my marks and they are just missing a die.

Strange. I can't say he's technically doing anything wrong. But it looks sketchy. Maybe he tested his dice and found that if those sides are up they roll to something... But proving that would be tough.

If he had marked dice he should have been forced to roll unmarked ones for the tourney. Rolling marked dice is cheating pure and simple. He wanted the dice to sit a certain way before flipping them out to raise the chances of a marked side landing versus a blank side.

Notice how he marked the same face on each type of die. That is so they leave his hand facing a certain direction each time. Coupled with a somewhat consistent rolling motion and the results are much more predictable. Too bad this has made it's way into the scene.

Looking at the video, it looks like the dice roll and bounce enough after he flips his hand that there isn't any way he can really control them. if he flipped is hand and they just landed flat on the table without flipping/rolling then yeah it would be an issue.

Now queue the weighted dice.

Pretty obvious that he was up to something. If I saw someone playing in a Toruney and they had marked dice, I would tell the TO in the first round. Can't believe he got to semi finals doing that.

Even if it gives him 1/1000 chance for better rolls, it's terrible sportsmanship and I hope the players remember him and watch him in future games. Shame on people who ruin good fun with this type of garbage.

Theres one in every crowd. D8's have always been one to roll kinda flat if that makes sense? I've found them to slide rather than roll and tumble from time to time.

By your description he is using a known technique to cheat with his dice. He pretends to roll, then he slams the dice down after checking so they won't roll any more. By knowing both sides of a die he knows what will be face up after flipping them. This is cheating pure and simple and he should have been called out sooner.

Rolling marked dice is cheating pure and simple.

There's nothing in the Tournament rules that say anything about marked dice. Marked dice are not cheating as long as they haven't been altered in some way to increase the odds of a given side showing.

Putting a red dot on a single face like was shown above would have no effect on how the dice roll, it would just make it easier to tell yours from someone else.

Looking at the video, it looks like the dice roll and bounce enough after he flips his hand that there isn't any way he can really control them. if he flipped is hand and they just landed flat on the table without flipping/rolling then yeah it would be an issue.

I agree. There is a lot of motion to the roll. However, if you start with the same side hitting the table every time, you do create a bit of an advantage for yourself.

He pretends to roll,then he slams the dice down after checking so they won't roll any more.

Umm no, I agree that what you say would be cheating, but look at the video above, and the dice bounce and roll quite a bit after he releases them.

By your description he is using a known technique to cheat with his dice. He pretends to roll, then he slams the dice down after checking so they won't roll any more. By knowing both sides of a die he knows what will be face up after flipping them. This is cheating pure and simple and he should have been called out sooner.

Did you watch the video? That's not at all what he does.

Edit: Ninja'd

Sounds like a bit of gamesmanship and a little slight of hand. Definitely call a TO if you see that happening.

In a previous minis game I was also at the final table with an unorthodox war and that was just slaying the meta netlists. My final opponent was notorious for stalling out the win but his semi-final opponent dropped so he was able to watch my semi finals match when my dice were disgustingly hot.

When our time came he was slow to arrive. Very slow to set up. Wanted to look over all my cards even though he had seen my entire last match. The round combat finally occurred (since he was slow on the play too) he called the TO over, taking more time, and said he suspected loaded dice on my part, taking more time again. With a smile I immediately said I'd gladly roll his own dice for the rest of the match as to not waste our time and the TO said tha was fine. My HOT dice continued and it was really not possible for me to keep it all in as I beat him with his own dice despite his slow play. Rolling 3 max rolls vs. someone who's gaming the game with thier own dice is satisfying.

Dice making science is often bad but at least for now we all have to use FFG dice.

However, if you start with the same side hitting the table every time, you do create a bit of an advantage for yourself.

Perhaps, but perhaps that's just a superstition we have as a way to control chaos? I know there's way to roll dice to improve your odds, but most of those involve actually placing the dice down while making it look like you're rolling them.

What the person in the video does isn't the same thing. Perhaps having them land on given side effects things, but you'd have to know how many rotations and which way each dice is going to make to control it. The dice in the video don't seem to all rotate the same number of times to me anyway.

Rolling marked dice is cheating pure and simple.

There's nothing in the Tournament rules that say anything about marked dice. Marked dice are not cheating as long as they haven't been altered in some way to increase the odds of a given side showing.

Putting a red dot on a single face like was shown above would have no effect on how the dice roll, it would just make it easier to tell yours from someone else.

I respectfully disagree, as I have seen this technique used many times. It is cheating. If it isn't, then why don't all games let you use marked dice? Because of the distinct advantage you get from it.

Edit: I agree that it is not in the Tournament Rules. But, it should be, and I suspect it will now that shenanigans like this are starting to show up.

By your description he is using a known technique to cheat with his dice. He pretends to roll, then he slams the dice down after checking so they won't roll any more. By knowing both sides of a die he knows what will be face up after flipping them. This is cheating pure and simple and he should have been called out sooner.

Did you watch the video? That's not at all what he does.

Edit: Ninja'd

No, that's why I prefaced with "by your description"

Obvious cheat. Should have been evicted.

If he weren't trying to cheat he'd have no reason to mark his dice like that or use funky techniques.

EDIT: Retracted, at least partially. Based on a misinterpretation of the OP's description without watching the video.

I can't tell in the pic of the dice with arrows above but are the dice drilled out or marked with a pen/marker? If the dits on those evade dice are drilled, nene a little, that could be an issue I'd think.

As it is, the FFG dice are horrible. Look at the crystal dice from the Regionals. See all those bubbles? That throws off the uniformity.

I would be willing to bet the Chinese factory that made the opaque dice had the same production standards that the crystal dice had. I also posit if you cut an opaque die in half it will be full of bubbles.

My dice are weighted poorly, and tend to roll blanks a lot. I think I will actually do some serious testing, rolling them a couple hundred times and counting the faces that come up. I am willing to bet that the blanks come up more that 25% of the time.

So if that is possible, I believe its possible for dice to be weighted poorly but with the tendency to roll hits or evades. Id be willing to bet he found a set of those and maximized his chances by "rolling" in a particular way.

What I want to know is if we can find a place to order custom precision dice. I want to make good dice for xwing.

I don't know about the rest of you, however for me odd ball dice rolling techniques ALWAYS throw a red flag for me. When I was playing a lot of competitive 40K the big thing there were these Casino dice. Now the idea was that they roll much more random and were better for overall fairness to the rounded corner dice that were popular. However, when dropped from a short distance, they for tend to land rather then roll so 'fixing' dice rolls were easy. I became an expert on how to do it actually, by practicing with some at home.

In the end I always called a TO over to make them aware that I did not like playing against 'unusual' dice and if replacements could be found for both my opponent and myself. So we both were playing with neutral dice. Now, admittedly I only ever had to do this twice at an event, but one of those two times my opponents was not too pleased with this which makes me think he had intentions of cheating dice rolls.

If I were to come to the table and someone were to do that and I noticed that the dice were marked, I would have asked for replacements right way. I get the idea of marking dice so that you know which ones are yours. However I would rather not deal with the possibly that someone were attempting something weird.

Because of the distinct advantage you get from it.

The rules don't say anything about marked dice. So it's not cheating no matter what anyone's opinion on the matter is.

Second it can be an issue if you use the same dice for everything. Lets say you roll D6's like you do in 40k, and you know some roll higher on avg and others roll lower. If you mark your low die you know which ones to roll when you want a low result vs a high one.

In X-Wing however that would only work if you were able to mark dice that roll hits more often then not... But if you had 3-4 of those just bring them and you have no reason to pick which ones you roll.

At a recent tournament one of the players had a very unique way of rolling the dice. He would shake the dice in his hand, look at them once or twice then he would flip his hand quickly a few inchs off the table and let the dice go.

No one really thought anything of it but a lot of people that played him commented on how consistant his dies rolls were.

During the players semi final match, someone noticed that his dice had marks on one side of all his dice. At this point the TO was told and for the final match the player was asked to use different dice and roll higher up. His consistant dice rolls vanished in the final game.

Is something up here or was it just a case of having a lucky day?

Here is a video of the dice roll:

https://vid.me/KPe

Picture of the marked dice:

The TO handled that exactly as they should have.

If he weren't trying to cheat he'd have no reason to mark his dice or use funky techniques.

Marking your dice so you know which ones are yours. If only some of them are marked then perhaps yes you have an issue.

Funky techniques? He shakes the dice in his hand a couple times then flips his hand over letting them hit the table, at which point they bounce around. That sounds a lot like how I roll my dice.

Sure he looks at them before flipping his hand, but given the action of the dice after the flip I don't see how there is any control on his part on what they land on.