Hi everyone,

I have wedge + squad leader; thyco + push the limit and a rookie pilot in game. Last two ship after a k-turn receive a stress Token, tycho use a boost and now is time to activate wedge equiped with squad leader.

On the squad leader there is write:" Choose one ship at range 1-2 that have a lover skill then you. The chosen ship may immediately perform 1 free action"

Q1 -I know that the rules on the card overwrite the standard rules, so give me the word "immediately" the opportunity to overwrite the rule about stressed ship that can not do action o receive free action? In this case I would give a free action to rookie.

Q2 - If the rules is not overwritten can i give the free action to thyco that with his ability can perform action when stressed?

Q3 - if the answer to Q2 is YES when thyco receive the free action and perform it, can Thyco trigger push the limit?

Q4 - I read on PTL "one per round" so I think that if I use PTL immediately after k-turn, I can not trigger again during wedge turn passing free action and performing it, because is the same turn.

Correct?

Thank you

Q1: Ships with a stress token can't take a free action.

Q2: Tycho is the one exception and can take a free action when he has a stress token.

Q3: Yes

Q4: You can use PTL during the Perform Action step to trigger a second action OR save it for when Wedge gives a free action and trigger it then.

Squad Leader requires the ship equipped with it to perform an action (it starts with "Attack:"). Wedge has to use his action to activate Squad Leader, but since he is stressed, he cannot take an action, and therefore cannot activate Squad Leader.

If Wedge is moving last and doesn't k-turn, then you can use Squad Leader as his action. If he does do a k-turn, he's stressed and can't perform the Squad Leader action. If the other two k-turn, and Wedge doesn't, then Wedge can use the Squad Leader action, but only for Tycho (due to Tycho's ability) and not the Rookie as he is stressed.

A stress token blocks taking the "Perform Action" step for a ship as well as taking free actions. Squad leader requires the ship equipped to use its action to trigger a free action for another ship.

If Wedge has a stress token he cannot use squad leader.

The rookie with a stress token cannot use the free action.

Tycho can, even with the stress token, because of his pilot ability.

Wedge is not stressed, only rookie e Tycho. But when a card rule overwrite standard rule?

A stressed ship cannot do an action during it's Perform Action step, or receive Free Actions, unless a card says specifically that it can. Tycho says specifically that he may perform actions while he has stress tokens, so he is the one exception here. In your example, there is no other card in play that will change this rule. It is not over-ruling or "overwriting" the standard rule, because Tycho has a special ability that allows it. He is the only one here able to do it.

You are still not allowed to give a free action to the Rookie as long as he is stressed, because he has no skill that would allow him to take it. Check the section in the rules on Stress.

Also, I have seen some players assume that Tycho ignores stress tokens and try to use red maneuvers when he is stressed. This is also not possible. His skill only allows him to be able to perform actions while stressed, not red maneuvers as well.

@Parravon I think you are not getting what he is confused about. What is tripping him up is that the card "squad leader" says the rookie can perform an action, while the rules say no actions while stressed. So, he is thinking, card text trumps rules therefore rookie can perform action. That is what is confusing him, not Tycho. Also, pretty sure not native English speaker.

@replay. What squad leader is allowing the rookie to do is perform an action at a time when he normally wouldn't. The rules don't let a ship perform an action during another ships activation, but squad leader says it can. That is the part of the rules that SL is over ruling, but nothing on the card says anything about over ruling any other rules concerning actions, just the timing of it. Since you can't perform actions while stressed, and SL doesn't say it is overruling that rule, the rookie can't actually perform the action, even though SL is giving him the opportunity.

Hope that made sense.

Yeah, I figured English was his second language as he's from Italy, but I got the feeling he assumes the free action ignores the rules for stress. Also by throwing Tycho in there, he's got a case of "if this guy can, why can't this guy?" If Tycho wasn't in the scenario, it might be clearer to explain.

I'm not sure how clearly the Italian version of the rulebook translates or if he's using the English version and translating himself.

See, I got the impression that Tycho was in there because "it seems to me like it works this way, but then Tychos ability is redundant, what am I missing about the root cause"

Whatever though. Hopefully one of us has cleared it up for him.

Yep, hope so

@Replay: Are you still confused?

A stress token blocks taking the "Perform Action" step for a ship ...

Not exactly.

A stress token prevents you from performing any action. You still get to execute the perform action step. Only that you don't do anything during that step.

Thanks a lot everyone, now is all clear. I'm Italian and I think that our rules book are translated correctly. I start this post because reading "immediately" in the card text , I have thought that means pass the stress standard rule now. On the rule book is write: "Some abilities on cards conflict with the general rules. In case of a conflict, card text overrides the general rules."

But now I understand that I need to reed something like "perform immediately a free action also if you have a stress Token".

But now I understand that I need to reed something like "perform immediately a free action also if you have a stress Token".

Exactly. Abilities only override rules they explicitly say they override. All other rules remain in full effect.