In search of a good 4X build

By Biophysical, in X-Wing

I've been mostly stocking up on various Imperial ships since I started, but I'm starting to bulk up my Rebel forces, and consequently, I'm thinking about them more. I'd like to put together a nice 4X build, because I like X-wings, but the general consensus is painting them as fine, but losing their edge against things like B-wings or Z-95s, depending on the purpose in a list. The problem I'm running into is that 4 X-wings don't leave much room for upgrades. I'm going to throw a few ideas out there anyway, to see what people think. 4 X-wings doesn't leave a lot of room for customization and named pilots, so I'm initially just looking at (forgive the goofy squad names):

Biggs, 3 Rookies, 4 Stealth Devices "The Lightspeed Black Panthers"

-Use Biggs and the Stealth Devices to make the opponent's early shots bad (split and/or vs. high Agility), then just try and run them over with 3 dice attacks. No real trick to this one.

4 Reds, 4 Flechette Torpedoes

Flechettes are nice for taking long range shots (compared to primary weapons). This is another jousting specialized squad, you take the Flechette shots at long range to hamper the other squad before the critical short-range turns.

(Not 4X, but nothing I've ever seen before)

3 Rookies, ORS (90 pts), or 2 Rookies/2 Ors (96 points) -"From Dantooine with Love"

I don't know what to do with this, but it seems like a lot of beef on the board with a nice combination of cheap turret and 3-dice attacks. The first iteration has a few points for upgrades, but I don't know what would be good in this situation.

Rookie pilot

Tarn+R7

Biggs

Garven

Total is 97 points so you can play around with some upgrades.

Rookie pilot

Tarn+R7

Biggs

Garven

Total is 97 points so you can play around with some upgrades.

R5-P9 on the Rookie could be an interesting buy. Alternately, you can afford to replace Garven with Wedge.

I'd also be completely willing to run this twist on the classic Wave 1 4X:

Wedge Antilles (29)

Predator (3)

Biggs Darklighter (25)

Rookie Pilot (21)

Rookie Pilot (21)

Total: 99

Edited by Vorpal Sword

Vorpal Sword's list is very good. I placed second in the store championship with that list (well it had PTL on wedge).

I have recently rekindled my love for Luke Skywalker, so there is this:

Luke

Garven

Biggs

Rookie

I also like running:

Hobbie + R3A2

Biggs

Red Squadron

Tarn + R7

I ran:

Luke + R2D2

Biggs

Rookie

Rookie

for a while and had some success. But that was pre Imp Aces.

Vorpal Sword's list is very good. I placed second in the store championship with that list (well it had PTL on wedge).

I have recently rekindled my love for Luke Skywalker, so there is this:

Luke

Garven

Biggs

Rookie

I also like running:

Hobbie + R3A2

Biggs

Red Squadron

Tarn + R7

I'd run Hobbie with R2d6 and PTL. With his pilot ability he doesn't wory about the stress from ptl!

Edited by AtomicFryingPan

Vorpal Sword's list is very good. I placed second in the store championship with that list (well it had PTL on wedge).

I have recently rekindled my love for Luke Skywalker, so there is this:

Luke

Garven

Biggs

Rookie

I also like running:

Hobbie + R3A2

Biggs

Red Squadron

Tarn + R7

I'd run Hobbie with R2d6 and PTL. With his pilot ability he doesn't wory about the stress from ptl!

After success with Chewie/Tarn/Roark at a local this weekend, I want to try flying without the turret to rely on so I've been thinking about something similar to the 2nd list above for playtest this week. I really enjoyed just how long Tarn was able to survive when I remembered his Stealth device.

Tarn + R7 + Stealth Device

Hobbie + R2-D6 + PTL

Rookie x2

Alternatively dropping Hobbie and the Stealth Device for a predator Wedge (Predator on Chewie got me max hits/crits so many times this weekend) or Luke with R2-D2 (and a 1 point EPT) are also options.

Edited by Rogue37

It leaves Wedge a little exposed, but I'd like to run:

Wedge w/ Predator and R2

Tarn w/ R7

Rookie

Rookie

Tarn is just too much fun.

Thanks for the input, folks. I'll try a few of these out when I get a chance.

Wedge

Biggs

Tarn + R7

Rookie

or

Garven

Hobbie +R3A2

Red

Red

I personally like:

Luke + R2D2 + shield upgrade + draw their fire

3x rookies

also if you dont mind a Z95:

Luke + R2D2 + shield upgrade + draw their fire

Airen Cracken + swarm tactics

2x rookies

Edited by JamesXatu