New FFG Article

By Rhinoviru3, in X-Wing

Well, it makes keeping the focus when you roll crits an option now. I know in my last game with Rexlar, he started rolling natural crits whenever he had an ideal target...

From the Epic Tourney Rules:

"Any new product released at GenCon 2014 will not be legal for the 2014 North American Championship or Escalation tournament."

Ladies and gentlemen, start your speculations for THAT.

From the Epic Tourney Rules:

"Any new product released at GenCon 2014 will not be legal for the 2014 North American Championship or Escalation tournament."

Ladies and gentlemen, start your speculations for THAT.

I think that just means that they will have some boxes of Rebel Aces at GenCon, but won't let them be legal for tourneys until the full release.

From the Epic Tourney Rules:

"Any new product released at GenCon 2014 will not be legal for the 2014 North American Championship or Escalation tournament."

Ladies and gentlemen, start your speculations for THAT.

I think that just means that they will have some boxes of Rebel Aces at GenCon, but won't let them be legal for tourneys until the full release.

You're no fun. :)

FFG doesn't tend to do ambush releases. Especially given that we're only a few weeks away and they haven't announced anything else, I think we can safely assume Rebel Aces will be it.

I think we can safely assume Rebel Aces will be it.

Yeah it would be a pretty big mistake on their part if they didn't bring some Rebel Aces to GenCon, especially if they're not ready for general release yet. Getting stuff like that is a big part of the draw to GenCon.

I think we can safely assume Rebel Aces will be it.

Yeah it would be a pretty big mistake on their part if they didn't bring some Rebel Aces to GenCon, especially if they're not ready for general release yet. Getting stuff like that is a big part of the draw to GenCon.

Some will undoubtedly call me cynical for it, but I think that if Rebel Aces wouldn't have been ready for GenCon, we wouldn't have gotten Wave 4 before the con.

FFG doesn't tend to do ambush releases. Especially given that we're only a few weeks away and they haven't announced anything else, I think we can safely assume Rebel Aces will be it.

And Wave 6. Which will likely be the TIE Delorian, and Rebel Defiant.

FAQ trumps News Articles in my opinion. :)

For rules sure, for something like the gender of a pilot? I don't see why it would be more valid then something else published by FFG.For all we know the only reason Echo was referred to as She is because so many people here do and the person writing it used that same pronoun because because they see Echo referred to that way.Or perhaps "Echo" is the call sign of who ever is flying that Phantom, and so the gender is interchangeable.It honestly doesn't matter one way or the other, but the FAQ is not really more valid then the news article, not for something like this.

Edit: Nope, I'm wrong. There is an official FFG post that says "he" for Echo. Whelp, now they're just screwing with us

Edited by perniciousducks

It's Rebel Aces.

They've got the repaints in the display case at FFG now, so...

I think the bigger difference is the news article in question was not written by FFG, instead it was a player writing a guest blog.

This article where "Echo" is refereed to as he, was not written by a fan, it was the preview for the Phantoms.

I think the bigger difference is the news article in question was not written by FFG, instead it was a player writing a guest blog.

This article where "Echo" is refereed to as he, was not written by a fan, it was the preview for the Phantoms.

Obviously Echo is a hermaphrodite. It's the only logical conclusion.

I wish I knew if the Adv Sensors/Cloak thing said anything about the actual details of timing or is just a Phantom nerf.

I would say yes, it's a result of timing details. You reveal your dial once, which triggers both Advanced Sensors and any cloak token a ship has. But if you use Advanced Sensors to cloak, the token doesn't travel back in time in order to be triggered--it has to wait until the next opportunity.

Certainly agree that it points that way, but it means that all conditions are checked when the trigger occurs. That could have a ton of implications... And since I can easily see the immediate decloak being unintended, I'm not ready to say this isn't a one off. It only gets worse when you add in that we had previous (admittedly back channel) word that you COULD do this.

As always, I really wish we had actual rules for this stuff.

I believe I commented somewhere either here or on A Few Maneuvers forum a while back explaining why this potential ruling would not be surprising

The main point was both Advanced Sensors and Decloak use the word "immediately" when referring to the timing relative to revealing your dial so you can't perform an action and then do something else and then have the dial be "immediately" revealed after the action (as required by Adv Sens)

Of course whichever thread that was in had some debate saying that it would fall under the 2 events happening at the same time being resolved in the order of the controlling player's choosing and/or that "Immediately" was used to prevent some ridiculous I'm gonna decloak my PS9 Phantom at PS0 to block your ships type of nonsense (I am sure some Dbag would have tried this but a majority of X-wing players would not have). But it appears that I was right after all

It seems that between this ruling (if they are using the justification I assume being based on the definition of "immediately") and the Email Ruling regarding Targeting Coordinator and the inclusion of the word "Another" (or lack thereof) that in addition to providing a fun game, FFG is also providing a course in how the English Language works (IE words actually retain their real world meanings when used as part of a rule and you can't assume someone means something if they say something else)

The main point was both Advanced Sensors and Decloak use the word "immediately" when referring to the timing relative to revealing your dial so you can't perform an action and then do something else and then have the dial be "immediately" revealed after the action (as required by Adv Sens)

This is a very scary precedent to draw. You're basically saying that any trigger can only have one "immediately". That's both dangerous and completely unfounded to draw from such a specific ruling.

I can come up with at least three different possible underlying rules that would lead to this result. The fact that you preferred one of them and the ruling lined up with your expected result does not make your preferred underlying rule correct.

I think the bigger difference is the news article in question was not written by FFG, instead it was a player writing a guest blog.

This article where "Echo" is refereed to as he, was not written by a fan, it was the preview for the Phantoms.

Obviously Echo is a hermaphrodite. It's the only logical conclusion.

Or symbiote, pseudo clone off DNA (attack of the horrible first 3 movie installments), or like the Diablo 3 crusader when the master dies the apprentice take the name of their master. OR could be like an amphibian where somewhere mid mission echo changed sex. Or there is more than one Echo...echo....echo.

And Brath too

Rexler Brath must choose to use his pilot ability after resolving any faceup damage cards dealt by his attack.
Any faceup damage cards that have been resolved and flipped facedown and any additional Damage cards dealt by the Minor Explosion Damage cards are also flipped faceup when Rexler Brath uses his ability.
Rexler Brath may only use his pilot ability once per attack; see “Abilities Resolve Once per Opportunity” on page 8.

Yeah, that's a fun little tidbit. Resolved that Minor Explosion, did you? Would you like to have it again? No? Well, let me play the world's tiniest violin for you while you flip it back up anyway.

I got to do that once. It was glorious. For my next trick I will kill a ship by refliping a Direct Hit that was turned facedown by an R5 Astromech.

Edited by Rekkon

Is a hermaphrodite a he or a she?

I think the bigger difference is the news article in question was not written by FFG, instead it was a player writing a guest blog.

This article where "Echo" is refereed to as he, was not written by a fan, it was the preview for the Phantoms.

Obviously Echo is a hermaphrodite. It's the only logical conclusion.

Or symbiote, pseudo clone off DNA (attack of the horrible first 3 movie installments), or like the Diablo 3 crusader when the master dies the apprentice take the name of their master. OR could be like an amphibian where somewhere mid mission echo changed sex. Or there is more than one Echo...echo....echo.

Edited by TheMandalorianCandidate

Is a hermaphrodite a he or a she?

I would believe it's a she since there is a 'he' in 'she' but no 'she' in 'he' but then again there is only a 'he' in 'hermaphrodite' so it might be a 'he', unless it's a 'shermaphrodite'.

I know it was clear, you can thank me later.

I didn't know tat Failsafe still let the stress go through even if it didn't hit in the flechette torps. do you think the same is true for something like Assault Missiles?

Flechettes deal stress when you attack with them, regardless of whether they hit. But you can't get the splash damage from Assault Missiles (which requires hitting) and also trigger Munitions Failsafe (which requires missing).

See this is where this one confuses me.. if MF makes it so that the attack didn't happen.. or is percieved to not happen, then how is the stress still given.. it really doesn't make sense.. and seems gimmicky to be a stress monkey..

If the missiles didn't leave the ship.. how do they stress the opponenent... you're stressed by looking down the barrel????

Is a hermaphrodite a he or a she?

I don't know. The only thing i can think to check is if there's a pronoun listing for the Hermats on a Star Trek wiki

Would people stop saying the missiles magically didn't fire, that's ridiculous.

While it is a game, and a sci-fi game to boot, I don't think anybody really believes MF returns missiles to their tubes. The whole concept is patently impossible. But if we're going to try and figure it out beyond the in game effect that is generally very well received, it is nearest to either:

A) having never fired the missiles at all due to seeing the target ship effectively "shake" the target lock.

or

B) having fired them and there simply being more in the tubes to begin with since, in universe and real life, fighters carry more than a single warhead. Since coming up with a mechanic that reflected that but also avoided assigning multiple ordinance cards/new ordinance counter tokens to an already cluttered table would be cumbersome, FFG just made it one card. MF simply wraps the whole issue up in 1 card, allowing for presumed multiple secondaries but not infinite. As far as Flechette torpedoes go, I imagine it's just the stress of seeing the flak nearby. In WWII flak was just as much a psychological weapon as a material one. Seeing the explosion go off, which by definition meant it hadn't struck you, still told you that you were under fire with a projectile that 'shotgunned' damaging debris in the area -- an area you shared.

I didn't know tat Failsafe still let the stress go through even if it didn't hit in the flechette torps. do you think the same is true for something like Assault Missiles?

Flechettes deal stress when you attack with them, regardless of whether they hit. But you can't get the splash damage from Assault Missiles (which requires hitting) and also trigger Munitions Failsafe (which requires missing).

See this is where this one confuses me.. if MF makes it so that the attack didn't happen.. or is percieved to not happen, then how is the stress still given.. it really doesn't make sense.. and seems gimmicky to be a stress monkey..

If the missiles didn't leave the ship.. how do they stress the opponenent... you're stressed by looking down the barrel????

Edited by Aminar

I think the bigger difference is the news article in question was not written by FFG, instead it was a player writing a guest blog.

This article where "Echo" is refereed to as he, was not written by a fan, it was the preview for the Phantoms.

Obviously Echo is a hermaphrodite. It's the only logical conclusion.

While your being silly. It's entirely possible in an alien scifi setting that echo is not human and is asexual certain lizards and insects such as the Komodo dragon are asexual and don't have a gender.

If we're going down the alien route, couldn't there be a third, fourth, fifth gender?