It has become pretty obvious to me that the scoring system is badly flawed when it comes to byes.

I just got back from the Tulsa regionals and there was a player that finished in 10th spot, not bad, I know. that person also had the hardest strength of schedule.The only problem is, that player played in all 5 rounds and just missed the cut to 4 people that had byes, 2 super byes and 2 normal byes. ( I personally don't agree with the super byes, but that's beside the point.)

I understand that byes have to happen with an odd number of players, but giving them a full sweep 9 points is busted. It is very highly unlikely that players can get a full 9-0 victory with the current setup as LS is very powerful. With the current setup, you are punishing those players that have to play all 5 rounds because of other people's good luck or the fact that they have a store that holds tournaments for them. Had those byes only been or a modified win or a tie points, then that would have changed that top 8 quite a lot. The guy wasn't mad, but appeared rather irritated at the situation and I don't blame him.

I have played a lot of CCG/TCGs competitively over the past 1.5 decades, and this is the only one that awards a full pointed win for a bye. That's just not right. The sad thing is that I have seen this happen at all the other regionals that I have went to as well. I'm curious if anyone else has seen this same issue arise.

I guess my overall question is, does Fantasy Flight see this issue? If so, do they plan to try and fix this?

Doesn't M:tG also give a full points for a bye? I know SWCCG did. The bye having 0 SoS points is disadvantage enough, no need to give even more punishment to the unlucky person. Super byes are a different story, but they require winning an entire tournament to earn, so giving full SoS with them makes sense.

No issue here, nothing to fix.

MTG will give you full points and marks win percentages as 100% which is okay.

But I have seen this happen quite a few time in tournaments and like many others I believe the point system should be reevaluated. FFG has been making changes to the rules and structures of this game since release. Hopefully they continue to do so before the next season of store championships

Well, that's weird - he should have been in 9th or 8th place if people with normal byes were ahead of him. SoS for a normal bye is zero. The only reason why these people were ahead was either A) They had more full wins (instead of modified wins - net difference of 4 points) or B) Error on the event organizer (this being unlikely from a good tournament source like Team Covenant).

Super-byes are incentive to go to the higher events. While I agree it's not the best incentive to go after, and going to an event with a large amount of people with over half the field winning their first games is an issue, at least in Star Wars it hasn't really proven to be a bigger issue yet. I won the Chicago, IL regional without a super-bye, and there were 9 of them if I recall.

I've only really seen problems with this when there is a low number of rounds in swiss (thankfully) at higher level events this won't be an issue. With 3 and sometimes even 4 rounds you can get really skewed results.

In three rounds Player A can receive a bye, and then get swept, and then sweep. So they end up with a score of 18.

Player B can end up playing all three rounds, drawing a true tie twice and then sweeping an opponent putting themself at 17 points.

If Player A received their bye from luck of the draw (odd number of people) it can be kind of frustrating as you they've really only won 50% of their games, and Player B has won 66% of their games, but unfortunately maneuvered themselves into true tie conditions to be at a lower point total.

This is less of a problem with 4 rounds but still exists, once you get to 5 rounds I've not seen this problem really arise. It can sure be frustrating to be the player who gets cut when they can't get a free bye, but at the same time, there's nothing player B can do if he is assigned the bye but attempt to win their remaining games. When you factor in players going to time it gets even messier.

I guess now with the new point system we may not see many more problems