Targeting Coordinator on yourself

By kraedin, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I got an answer on this this morning.

Hello,

In response to your rules question:


Rule Question:
With the Crew upgrade card "Targeting Coordinator", can you choose yourself? That is, can a corvette using Targeting Coordinator choose itself as a "friendly ship at Range 1-2"?

Thank you for your assistance,

Yes. A card would explicitly call out “choose another friendly ship” if you were not allowed to target yourself.

This is a way for a CR90 to acquire a target lock without spending an action (and just spending energy).

Thanks for asking,

Frank Brooks
Associate Creative Content Developer
Fantasy Flight Games

Since the "Range 1 of yourself" question has been controversial, I thought people would be interested.

Edited by kraedin

Very interesting... Now what are all the cards that say "friendly ship" vs. "another friendly ship"?

I wonder if he thought this through....

The following work on self:

Fleet Officer, Jan Ors (Crew), Targeting Coordinator

The following don't:

Jan Dodonna, Wingman, Airen Cracken, Captain Jonus, Captain Yorr, "Dutch" Vander, Garven Dreis, "Howlrunner", Jan Ors (Pilot), Kyle Katarn (Pilot), Lando Calrissian, Roark Garnet

Can we consider this as an answer to whether a ship is in range 1 of itself?

Can we consider this as an answer to whether a ship is in range 1 of itself?

Yes we can.

Can we consider this as an answer to whether a ship is in range 1 of itself?

Yes we can.

That's what I thought as well, but didn't want to jump to conclusions. Even though it doesn't say that directly, the implication is clear.

Edited by ziggy2000

"Implication" may be too gentle a word here :)

I do wish they'd be more direct with the broader rules, but this ruling simply doesn't work unless a ship counts as Range 1 from itself. Given their history that isn't necessarily conclusive, but we don't actually have any counterexamples in this case. I think it's as solid as we're going to get.

Thanks very much for the relay.

Edit: And interestingly this means my workaround for the mandatory Swarm Tactics problem worked just fine :D I'm still glad they errata'ed it for clarity, though.

Edited by Buhallin

"another" seems like it is now a key word in the rules...

They now have set precedent that one-self is always included unless the text says "another ship".

This could get crazy for falcon builds...

If true, that means a named falcon with ptl, jan, c3po, and mf title can have 3 evades a turn! However that would mean no room for a gunner and with no actions on offense your attacks would be pretty weak.

But if it's late in the game and you only have 1 or 2 ships left against you you'd be nearly impenetrable and could just whittle them down whenever you get good attack rolls.

As I stated in another thread that was arguing over the use of 'another'.

This is exactly why wingman is another friendly ship. Balance reasons aside and just going with fluff, you can't be your own wingman.

"Implication" may be too gentle a word here :)

This.

Though I was personally against the ruling that an active ship considered itself within range 1 of itself, I am willing to accept their determination that ships are in fact within range 1 of themselves as this ruling clearly explains, if only for the fact that they have now made a determination and that it has set a precedent for future card abilities referring to friendlies that do not use the word 'another' in them.

I just hope that they follow through with this decision rather than muddy the waters with a future ruling that contradicts this one.

Edited by Mace Windu

I got really excited. Frantically dug out my Captain Jonus card.

Disappointment when i read "any other friendly ship".

I'm going back to bed.

Jonus would be the bees knees if it was the case. :ph34r:

I totally called this. :P

Thanks for looking into it.

As I stated in another thread that was arguing over the use of 'another'.

This is exactly why wingman is another friendly ship. Balance reasons aside and just going with fluff, you can't be your own wingman.

Yet you can be your own friend, apparently.

As I stated in another thread that was arguing over the use of 'another'.

This is exactly why wingman is another friendly ship. Balance reasons aside and just going with fluff, you can't be your own wingman.

Yet you can be your own friend, apparently.

Only of your name is "Barf"...

As I stated in another thread that was arguing over the use of 'another'.

This is exactly why wingman is another friendly ship. Balance reasons aside and just going with fluff, you can't be your own wingman.

Yet you can be your own friend, apparently.

As I stated in another thread that was arguing over the use of 'another'.

This is exactly why wingman is another friendly ship. Balance reasons aside and just going with fluff, you can't be your own wingman.

Yet you can be your own friend, apparently.

If I couldn't be my own friend, I wouldn't have any.

Or at least friendly to yourself. Might be awkward on the battlefield.

Being friendly with yourself in public is definitely illegal. They have a registry for that, you know.

That's what we need. A Barfolomew crew card that lets you apply any ability aimed at another friendly ship to your own ship.

He's his own best friend.

Well if this is true generally then Lone Wolf ceases to function unless what Frank says is specific to Targeting Coordinator.

Edited by dhowtocor

As I said in the other thread. No because line wolf says other, which excludes that ship.