Fair enough. A proximity stress mine, or a proximity Ion mine would be interesting. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like some expansion in the control space, with more emphasis on stress, ion, and possibly attack disruption. It just seemed like a good way to take the game, and if the Y-Wing happens to be along for the ride, so much the better.

Control is the most boring archetype in Magic whether you're playing it or playing against it.

Y-wing Ion then crush with a GR-75 is pretty fun.

I don't think we'll ever see a Virago, since that was a one-of-a-kind ship for a pirate king (Prince Xizor). No other copies of it were made.

After Xizor's death Mandal Hypernautics built a very large amount of them. The Zann Consortium fielded them in squadrons.

You're quite right. I remembered from the books that Virago was unique, and that the ship was destroyed with him and his Skyhook. I didn't know that the design was retained, however...

Virago was apparently destroyed in a battle over Coruscant, when Darth Vader's flagship Executor destroyed Xizor's skyhook. Soon after Xizor's death, MandalMotors regained the rights to the StarViper design and began producing inferior versions of the original craft.

*holycrapitshumongous snip*

I remember even in the Shadows of the Empire game there being quite a few StarVipers but I think a unique Virago title (maybe adding +1 to all stats) and a cheaper generic version would be nice. Named pilots would probably be Xizor and Guri (I doubt the Stinger would show up if the the StarViper/Virago doesn't)

TIE Hunter Armament

• Ion cannons (2)
• Laser cannons (2)
• Proton torpedo launcher

• Standard load: 12 torpedoes in total

So tell me again how a Y-wing with this or that upgrade,

or X many weapons can be too powerful?

Yes the Y-wing has fewer guns. Hence why it has 2 attack not 3.

" We're using Y-wings because of their greater firepower. But they move like a sleepy Hutt, so watch it. " - Luke Skywalker, Rogue Squadron 3D

Oooo.... sorry I gots to call you on this because it's very deceptive:

Armament

• Taim & Bak IX4 or KX5 laser cannons ^[4] (2) ^[3]
• Light ArMek turreted SW-4 ion cannons (2) ^[1]
• Arakyd Flex Tube proton torpedo launchers (2) ^[3]
  • 4 torpedoes each ^[1]
• Proton bombs ^[5]

Looks like a lot of boom to me.

Fair enough. A proximity stress mine, or a proximity Ion mine would be interesting. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like some expansion in the control space, with more emphasis on stress, ion, and possibly attack disruption. It just seemed like a good way to take the game, and if the Y-Wing happens to be along for the ride, so much the better.

Hold on, not everyone agrees with that analysis.

I was going to say I was very inspired by part of your *essay*

I'm in the middle of a playtesting game for my DP20 Guship cards

and I have a pair A-wings charging in with Ion Pulse Missiles

trying to cut down some of it's energy early.

And it occurred to me as I read your post that a swap of

torpedo upgrades for missile upgrades on the Y-wings

would be an awesome * thing, I was ready to high-five you,

since the Y-wing would carry double the payload of the A-wing

and then with an Ion Turret it could continue the harassment.

Something like the Chardaan refit, but changing ordinance.

18+3+3+5=29?

Speaking of the Charadaan refit, I hope they do one for Y-wings...

what would that be, a Gold for something like 14 points?

Wait a minute, ...

the single seat version, Red Squadron,

fixed Ion turret, no torpedoes, ...

15 points?

* if I had said "epic" then it might have been a bit punny.

Fair enough. A proximity stress mine, or a proximity Ion mine would be interesting. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like some expansion in the control space, with more emphasis on stress, ion, and possibly attack disruption. It just seemed like a good way to take the game, and if the Y-Wing happens to be along for the ride, so much the better.

[...]

And it occurred to me as I read your post that a swap of

torpedo upgrades for missile upgrades on the Y-wings

would be an awesome * thing, I was ready to high-five you,

since the Y-wing would carry double the payload of the A-wing

and then with an Ion Turret it could continue the harassment.

Something like the Chardaan refit, but changing ordinance.

18+3+3+5=29?

Speaking of the Charadaan refit, I hope they do one for Y-wings...

what would that be, a Gold for something like 14 points?

Wait a minute, ...

the single seat version, Red Squadron,

fixed Ion turret, no torpedoes, ...

15 points?

* if I had said "epic" then it might have been a bit punny.

I recall "Ion Torpedoes" being a thing with the Wave 5 release. So provided the "Point Cost to Effect Ratio" are affordable. Y-Wings will probably be the Torpedo Bomber of choice and the better "Control" option.

Fair enough. A proximity stress mine, or a proximity Ion mine would be interesting. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like some expansion in the control space, with more emphasis on stress, ion, and possibly attack disruption. It just seemed like a good way to take the game, and if the Y-Wing happens to be along for the ride, so much the better.

Hold on, not everyone agrees with that analysis.

I was going to say I was very inspired by part of your *essay*

I'm in the middle of a playtesting game for my DP20 Guship cards

and I have a pair A-wings charging in with Ion Pulse Missiles

trying to cut down some of it's energy early.

And it occurred to me as I read your post that a swap of

torpedo upgrades for missile upgrades on the Y-wings

would be an awesome * thing, I was ready to high-five you,

since the Y-wing would carry double the payload of the A-wing

and then with an Ion Turret it could continue the harassment.

Something like the Chardaan refit, but changing ordinance.

18+3+3+5=29?

Speaking of the Charadaan refit, I hope they do one for Y-wings...

what would that be, a Gold for something like 14 points?

Wait a minute, ...

the single seat version, Red Squadron,

fixed Ion turret, no torpedoes, ...

15 points?

* if I had said "epic" then it might have been a bit punny.

Thanks for the encouragement. I've only had the game for about a month, and have played a total of two games. That said, it was so awesome I've been on a binge reading about everything in these forums. Just felt inspired to write something up

Yes, "Ion Torpedoes" are coming out with the Decimator -- 2 of them. No word on what they do yet but they're there.

Fair enough. A proximity stress mine, or a proximity Ion mine would be interesting. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like some expansion in the control space, with more emphasis on stress, ion, and possibly attack disruption. It just seemed like a good way to take the game, and if the Y-Wing happens to be along for the ride, so much the better.

Hold on, not everyone agrees with that analysis.

I was going to say I was very inspired by part of your *essay*

I'm in the middle of a playtesting game for my DP20 Guship cards

and I have a pair A-wings charging in with Ion Pulse Missiles

trying to cut down some of it's energy early.

And it occurred to me as I read your post that a swap of

torpedo upgrades for missile upgrades on the Y-wings

would be an awesome * thing, I was ready to high-five you,

since the Y-wing would carry double the payload of the A-wing

and then with an Ion Turret it could continue the harassment.

Something like the Chardaan refit, but changing ordinance.

18+3+3+5=29?

Speaking of the Charadaan refit, I hope they do one for Y-wings...

what would that be, a Gold for something like 14 points?

Wait a minute, ...

the single seat version, Red Squadron,

fixed Ion turret, no torpedoes, ...

15 points?

* if I had said "epic" then it might have been a bit punny.

I would use the Munitions Failsafe with one IPM.

You get to shot the thing until it works, you know.

I would use the Munitions Failsafe with one IPM.

You get to shot the thing until it works, you know.

did have it in an earlier version of my 300 point build, but I swapped them out for Engine upgrades

and dropped a couple of torpedoes. Gettin' my "Flanking Huge Ships" on.

I recall "Ion Torpedoes" being a thing with the Wave 5 release. So provided the "Point Cost to Effect Ratio" are affordable. Y-Wings will probably be the Torpedo Bomber of choice and the better "Control" option.

Yes, "Ion Torpedoes" are coming out with the Decimator -- 2 of them. No word on what they do yet but they're there.

Well if they end up giving two Ion tokens, then they would be the better choice.

I'll be keeping a close eye out for the spoiled cards so I can print copies.

Wait a minute, ...
the single seat version, Red Squadron,
fixed Ion turret, no torpedoes, ...
15 points?

The autoblaster was reintroduced during the Galactic Civil War, now as an updated version of blaster technology. Designed for the B-wing fighter, this modern autoblaster had an even higher rate of fire than other blasters, but was not available to other models until after the Battle of Endor.

Not a very serious suggestion, but not an off canon one either.

Jesus. Do you think you could just edit your previous posts instead of making four of them to talk to yourself?

Jesus. Do you think you could just edit your previous posts instead of making four of them to talk to yourself?

No because it was quoted a couple of times and I didn't just want to change it to add the photo when the question was ignored anyway, duh. And my name's not Jesus.

Oh, you're trying to get me to make one long long post on four different topics, ha ha.

So sorry that these minor things confuse you so much.

You must have such a miserable life that you have nothing better than to b*tch about things like this...

but look on the bright side, for these three paragraphs I edited the same post.

No, I want you to stop bumping a dead thread with your spam.

No, I want you to stop bumping a dead thread with your spam.

That's one of the most retarded things I've read all week,

you think you get to decide when a thread is dead.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

what are you 10 years old?

I'm talking about Y-wings on a Rebel Aces thread

and you're calling that spam?

what are you doing here? crap all.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

* This will be the first time I bother changing my 'ignore' preferences.

** Seriously, how long is the list of people who added this guy to their ignore list I wonder.

*** And since there are 31 people following this 'dead' thread, I'll assume he's on some odd drugs too.

Sure, I'm 10 years old. And as a 10 year old, even I know how to compose a post that addresses more than one person, and I can do it without using inappropriate language.

I'm having trouble finding out why this Y-wing is referred to as "Red Jammer."

Doesn't anyone know off hand?

If it has anything to do with the missing droid, I'd be inspired to continue working on some

ECM and ECCM options for the Y-wing. Maybe something as simple as one stress at a range

of two. Maybe a mini sensor and ECM package that fits in the droid slot.

No, I want you to stop bumping a dead thread with your spam.

That's one of the most retarded things I've read all week,

you think you get to decide when a thread is dead.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

what are you 10 years old?

I'm talking about Y-wings on a Rebel Aces thread

and you're calling that spam?

what are you doing here? crap all.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

* This will be the first time I bother changing my 'ignore' preferences.

** Seriously, how long is the list of people who added this guy to their ignore list I wonder.

*** And since there are 31 people following this 'dead' thread, I'll assume he's on some odd drugs too.

Yeah he was on my ignore list, the only member here in fact because he came in screaming about Miniatures Market. I took him off and is okay for a laugh. You should ignore him if he is bothering you that much. He is one of the members here that feeds on aggressive encounters.

No feeding of Trolls or Orcs... it is a good policy.

I am not going to allow anyone to lessen my enjoyment of this wonderful game because they are on a bizarre and unwholesome social mission online.

Nope... Nuh-Uhh... Hell-nah!

• That leaves turrets. I've already taken someone's idea and made it [what I feel is] appropriate, balanced, and fluffy. There are other options as well, all of which improve/diversify the Y-wing's almost!uniqueness...yes, it will benefit the HWK-290 as well, so it has an added benefit.

What do you think of a missile launching turret?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Missile_turret

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookiee_Dual_Launcher

I think on larger ships it works great. I am going to have them on larger models that I am currently working on for my Epic Terrain.

For small ships are you thinking about having something like mini missiles, or what?